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Old 08-13-2012, 06:20 PM   #1501
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Ok, help me decide what to put on my 2012 WRX Sedan...

1) Nameless 5" muffled Axleback with 3.5" staggered double wall tips

2) Invidia Q300 Cat back Exhaust with SS Tips

3) TurboXS Cat Back Exhaust with SS Tips

I'm looking for an exhaust that is slightly louder than stock and does not drone at all. Ideally I only want people (inside and outside my car) to know that I have an exhaust when I get on it. I don't mind a deep rumble at idle as long as it is nothing like the ridiculous cold start idle drone from the stock exhaust...

Which would you choose?
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I am in the same boat. I want as low and deep of a rumble, loud idle is fine. I only want it slightly louder than stock, like a few db's. The nameless non muffled is a bit to hollow and loud.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:36 PM   #1502
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Ok, help me decide what to put on my 2012 WRX Sedan...

1) Nameless 5" muffled Axleback with 3.5" staggered double wall tips

2) Invidia Q300 Cat back Exhaust with SS Tips

3) TurboXS Cat Back Exhaust with SS Tips

I'm looking for an exhaust that is slightly louder than stock and does not drone at all. Ideally I only want people (inside and outside my car) to know that I have an exhaust when I get on it. I don't mind a deep rumble at idle as long as it is nothing like the ridiculous cold start idle drone from the stock exhaust...

Which would you choose?
Nameless 5" 3.5 double walled tips with resonator. I have a bad taste with invidia after having a Q300 on my hatch. Plus the tips on the nameless look better
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:06 PM   #1503
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Invidia Q300 for the sedan very different than the exhaust for the hatch. I have no drone at all on the highway and find it very quiet from inside the cabin. I have to roll all four windows down to really get the deep bassy sound out of it. The only time it's a bit much is if I put the rear seats down.

A downpipe paired with the stock CBE is another option that would probably appeal to you. My buddy did exactly this with his sedan (Invidia catless DP). The sound is very deep and you hear the turbo whhosh a bit better than completely stock. But the overall sound is not overwhelming at all.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:24 PM   #1504
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Just go Catless DP stock CBE
Cobb AP

You'd save money and make loads of power more as opposed to a $900+ noise maker
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I honestly don't like the look of the stock exhaust tips so I'd rather pay for a nice deep exhaust sound and the look of the larger, flush tips.

After talking to the guys at Nameless and hearing some of their videos, the 5" muffled version of their exhaust looks to be my best bet and my cheapest option as well. It is deep and bassy at idle, quite (similar to stock) at cruising speeds and sounds awesome when you get on it. My problem is I love the look of the TurboXS... I wish someone local to me had one on a sedan.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:01 PM   #1505
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My problem is I love the look of the TurboXS... I wish someone local to me had one on a sedan.
i love the TXS and the Q300, i just think that with the catless DP its just going to be louder than i want. and they are both 800 bux, just to make my car sound loud...
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:53 PM   #1506
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I wish the stock exhaust sucked so that it wouldn't make feel so bad when I think about replacing it
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:59 PM   #1507
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I appreciate this thread. I had Stage 2 installed by PDX Tuning for my Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon, MANUAL. (original Owner). I have been thinking of selling it but am tempted to upgrade the exhaust.
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:07 AM   #1508
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I wish the stock exhaust sucked so that it wouldn't make feel so bad when I think about replacing it
I know the feeling... if the stock tips were larger and flush with the bumper I'd consider installing a catless downpipe and keeping the stock cat back. However, that's what is nice about the Nameless Axleback, you get to retain the stock midpipe and resonator while ditching the bulky mufflers and sub par tips.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:44 AM   #1509
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Since replacing my NP CBE portion with the TurboXS I am *so* much happier.

No more rasp, no more drone, no more vibrations at idle. I actually didn't even realize how much drone there was until now.

TurboXS is a bit deeper at low rpms. At high rpms it's a bit quieter. I can hear some of the "sti gear whine" that is prevalent when stock, that was totally drowned out with NP, and I can even hear the shift beep again.

A couple of my 'car friends' said it's too quiet, but easy for them to say, they didn't have to drive it everyday (and ironically enough none of them have loud exhausts).

But this is exactly what I was looking for.
I've still got a NP downpipe and plan on keeping it.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:56 AM   #1510
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Since replacing my NP CBE portion with the TurboXS I am *so* much happier.

No more rasp, no more drone, no more vibrations at idle. I actually didn't even realize how much drone there was until now.

TurboXS is a bit deeper at low rpms. At high rpms it's a bit quieter. I can hear some of the "sti gear whine" that is prevalent when stock, that was totally drowned out with NP, and I can even hear the shift beep again.

A couple of my 'car friends' said it's too quiet, but easy for them to say, they didn't have to drive it everyday (and ironically enough none of them have loud exhausts).

But this is exactly what I was looking for.
I've still got a NP downpipe and plan on keeping it.
I'm assuming you had the non muffled version of the nameless axleback?

And is your car a sedan or a hatch?
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:24 AM   #1511
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Anybody know when the cobb catback from post #1412 is coming out?
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:36 AM   #1512
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Video clip please. Idling and maybe in car if you could would be splendid!

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Since replacing my NP CBE portion with the TurboXS I am *so* much happier.

No more rasp, no more drone, no more vibrations at idle. I actually didn't even realize how much drone there was until now.

TurboXS is a bit deeper at low rpms. At high rpms it's a bit quieter. I can hear some of the "sti gear whine" that is prevalent when stock, that was totally drowned out with NP, and I can even hear the shift beep again.

A couple of my 'car friends' said it's too quiet, but easy for them to say, they didn't have to drive it everyday (and ironically enough none of them have loud exhausts).

But this is exactly what I was looking for.
I've still got a NP downpipe and plan on keeping it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:17 PM   #1513
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:46 AM   #1514
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So I met up with a local 2012 WRX sedan owner last night who is running the 5" muffled nameless exhaust with the stock downpipe/midpipe and all I can say is WOW!!! The idle was hardly louder than my stock exhaust but it had that nice, deep boxer rumble to it, normal driving was only slightly louder than stock (without the annoying drone between 1500-2000 RPMs) and while cruising on the highway I couldn't even tell he had an exhaust. In all honesty I was shocked at how great it sounded. The videos and sound clips on youtube of the NP 5" muffled axle back just don't do it justice! After driving my car with an SPT cat back exhaust for 1800 miles I was afraid that almost any aftermarket exhaust was going to be too loud for my wife. But the NP 5" muffled axle back had such a soft mellow rumble and was so much quieter in the cabin that my SPT Exhaust that I have no doubt that it will be wife and baby approved! In fact, I was so impressed that I placed an order for the 5" muffled version of the axleback with the 3.5" staggered double wall tips last night! I can't wait to get it and see/hear it on my car. That and the amount of drone in the stock WRX exhaust is getting old fast. Yeah, it's quiet at the higher RPMs but man is it annoying at cold start idle and while driving low speeds...

Thinking ahead (and for those of you who are already stage 2) I don't know how this exhaust will sound with an upgraded downpipe (especially catless) but for the stock downpipe and a stage 1 tune, I think it is perfect. If it gets too loud after I go stage 2 I will order the NP resontated and muffled mid pipe which should quiet it back down. So far I am super impressed by the customer service at NP and the selection and quality of their products. I'll be sure to post pics and a sound clip or two once I get my exhaust and get it on the car.

BTW, for those of you who have the WRX sedan and are looking for a "quiet" exhaust, I will warn you now that the SPT is not as quiet as everyone seems to think. It sounds awesome, don't get me wrong, but it has a lot of drone and produces a lot of extra cabin noise at lower RPMs. I would be willing to say it is not the "quietest" exhaust available and it might even be one of the loudest. Just my .02 cents...

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Old 08-17-2012, 10:54 AM   #1515
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If it gets too loud after I go stage 2 I can always order the NP resontated and muffled mid pipe which should quiet it back down.
That's just going to make it even louder.


To those that want a video of my new Turbo XS setup, I'll try to get around to it, but I don't know when I'll have a chance.
And honestly, video doesn't properly recreate any of these systems. I rewatched an old video I had of my previous Nameless setup, and it didn't replicate the "real life" sound/volume anywhere near accurate.
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That's just going to make it even louder.
I don't think it will, not with the extra two mufflers welded into the Y pipe. There is a video out there now (I believe it was by 06AWD) with the full Nameless CBE with resonator, muffled Y pipe and 5" mufflers and it sounds very mellow. Almost identical to what I heard last night from the 5" mufflers and the stock midpipe/downpipe if not even quieter. Granted you are 100% correct about video recreation not being accurate, but even so I would think a high flow cat, a resonator and two more mufflers would create very similar noise reduction to the stock cat and resonator. But hey, I don't plan on going stage 2 anytime soon so for now I'm going to enjoy the awesome sound of the 5" muffled axleback. I will cross that bridge when the time comes.

Also, don't get me wrong, I love the look (and from what I've heard online) the sound of the TurboXS system. I just couldn't justify the extra $250 for that system over the staggered 3.5" double wall tips on the 5" muffled axleback from NP. That and I hate not beign able to hear an exhaust in person before ordering it, I made that mistake with the SPT and I won't do it again.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:06 AM   #1517
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That's just going to make it even louder.

To those that want a video of my new Turbo XS setup, I'll try to get around to it, but I don't know when I'll have a chance.
And honestly, video doesn't properly recreate any of these systems. I rewatched an old video I had of my previous Nameless setup, and it didn't replicate the "real life" sound/volume anywhere near accurate.
You had the muffler deletes of course it was going to be loud when you went turboback... Then you went to the 4 inch mufflers that are just one step below the deletes. He is going to run 5" mufflers which even with the turboback middle for loudness. You don't even know loud till you have been in a hatch with a N1 or Q300 V2.

PS Adding another muffler to the midpipe will only decrease the volume not increase it...

My friend has the 5 inch turboback resonated midpipe from them it's not even that loud except when he gets on it it has a nice sound. He also has the hatch which is more prone to drone and only has the slightest bit of it. The stock exhaust has more of it than his

2.5turboWRX you will be fine, and happy with your choice. Your comparing apples to apples, while this guy is trying to compare apples to bananas.

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Old 08-17-2012, 11:20 AM   #1518
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I've only been driving with the stock exhaust for maybe 50 miles and I am surprised by the amount of drone... On a cold start in my garage, sitting at right about 1500 RPMs the pictures on my bedroom wall vibrate noticably from the drone. Even the SPT exhaust didn't drone that bad at idle...
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:22 AM   #1519
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I've only been driving with the stock exhaust for maybe 50 miles and I am surprised by the amount of drone... On a cold start in my garage, sitting at right about 1500 RPMs the pictures on my bedroom wall vibrate noticably from the drone. Even the SPT exhaust didn't drone that bad at idle...
The stock exhaust drones bad below 1.2K. I know, I'm stock right now with a Catted DP, which only made it worse lol But it is much more liveable than my Q300 V2 I had lol.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:23 AM   #1520
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So I met up with a local 2012 WRX sedan owner last night who is running the 5" muffled nameless exhaust with the stock downpipe/midpipe and all I can say is WOW!!! The idle was hardly louder than my stock exhaust but it had that nice, deep boxer rumble to it, normal driving was only slightly louder than stock (without the annoying drone between 1500-2000 RPMs) and while cruising on the highway I couldn't even tell he had an exhaust. In all honesty I was shocked at how great it sounded. The videos and sound clips on youtube of the NP 5" muffled axle back just don't do it justice! After driving my car with an SPT cat back exhaust for 1800 miles I was afraid that almost any aftermarket exhaust was going to be too loud for my wife. But the NP 5" muffled axle back had such a soft mellow rumble and was so much quieter in the cabin that my SPT Exhaust that I have no doubt that it will be wife and baby approved! In fact, I was so impressed that I placed an order for the 5" muffled version of the axleback with the 3.5" staggered double wall tips last night! I can't wait to get it and see/hear it on my car. That and the amount of drone in the stock WRX exhaust is getting old fast. Yeah, it's quiet at the higher RPMs but man is it annoying at cold start idle and while driving low speeds...

Thinking ahead (and for those of you who are already stage 2) I don't know how this exhaust will sound with an upgraded downpipe (especially catless) but for the stock downpipe and a stage 1 tune, I think it is perfect. If it gets too loud after I go stage 2 I will order the NP resontated and muffled mid pipe which should quiet it back down. So far I am super impressed by the customer service at NP and the selection and quality of their products. I'll be sure to post pics and a sound clip or two once I get my exhaust and get it on the car.

BTW, for those of you who have the WRX sedan and are looking for a "quiet" exhaust, I will warn you now that the SPT is not as quiet as everyone seems to think. It sounds awesome, don't get me wrong, but it has a lot of drone and produces a lot of extra cabin noise at lower RPMs. I would be willing to say it is not the "quietest" exhaust available and it might even be one of the loudest. Just my .02 cents...
Very nice review and impressions. I just wish you were describing the hatch back!
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:37 AM   #1521
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Cold idle drone is one thing, but why are people driving around below 2k?
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Cold idle drone is one thing, but why are people driving around below 2k?
I guess I should have been more specific, it's more of the "boom" that occurs during a downshift or as you are getting up to speed from a stop. That and the cold start drone from the stock exhaust is seriously unacceptable...

As for the SPT Exhaust, it had a very noticeable drone between 2k-3k regardless of your speed. And it wasn't even really a drone (like the stock cold start) but more of a strange reverberation. It was almost a deep pulsing type sound, hard to describe and even harder to pick up in a video clip.

Either way, I'm just glad I found an aftermarket exhaust that will let me hear that beautiful boxer rumble without upsetting the wife and in a few more weeks, the newborn baby girl (which was my biggest concern!)
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Different than on the hatch. People talk like they're the same.
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I don't think it will, not with the extra two mufflers welded into the Y pipe. There is a video out there now (I believe it was by 06AWD) with the full Nameless CBE with resonator, muffled Y pipe and 5" mufflers and it sounds very mellow. Almost identical to what I heard last night from the 5" mufflers and the stock midpipe/downpipe if not even quieter. Granted you are 100% correct about video recreation not being accurate, but even so I would think a high flow cat, a resonator and two more mufflers would create very similar noise reduction to the stock cat and resonator. But hey, I don't plan on going stage 2 anytime soon so for now I'm going to enjoy the awesome sound of the 5" muffled axleback. I will cross that bridge when the time comes.

Also, don't get me wrong, I love the look (and from what I've heard online) the sound of the TurboXS system. I just couldn't justify the extra $250 for that system over the staggered 3.5" double wall tips on the 5" muffled axleback from NP. That and I hate not beign able to hear an exhaust in person before ordering it, I made that mistake with the SPT and I won't do it again.
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You had the muffler deletes of course it was going to be loud when you went turboback... Then you went to the 4 inch mufflers that are just one step below the deletes. He is going to run 5" mufflers which even with the turboback middle for loudness. You don't even know loud till you have been in a hatch with a N1 or Q300 V2.

PS Adding another muffler to the midpipe will only decrease the volume not increase it...

My friend has the 5 inch turboback resonated midpipe from them it's not even that loud except when he gets on it it has a nice sound. He also has the hatch which is more prone to drone and only has the slightest bit of it. The stock exhaust has more of it than his

2.5turboWRX you will be fine, and happy with your choice. Your comparing apples to apples, while this guy is trying to compare apples to bananas.
I just read 'midpipe,' didn't realize he said muffled midpipe. Reading errors: they happen.
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Very nice review and impressions. I just wish you were describing the hatch back!
with regard to the hatch, i'd agree with all that was said, save for it is louder than stock at all times/rev range/speeds i am 3" all the way, so (as was said) this has a little something to do with it too.

and regarding the comment about videos not doing the exhaust justice, i completely agree. my video was shot with a legit sony video camera, not a cell phone and still doesn't capture the sound well. wise move to check it out in person first before pulling the trigger (when possible).
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