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Old 01-23-2011, 09:41 PM   #1
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Default I just bought my first WRX (02),needs engine work, any reccomendations on what to do

well its a 02 wagon and it has a few mods done to it.

16g turbo upgrade
larger exhaust downpipe with catback

other then that its mostly stock.

Now I guess the guy who put the turbo in didnt install the oil return line off the turbo properly so it was blocked and it was flooding the turbo with oil and dumping it out the exhaust. Eventually the engine ran low on oil and it developed a rod knock.

The car will still start now, but I need to fix it and was wondering what the cheapest way to fix the shortblock would be, along with any cheap modifications I could make to increase more power. I was probably going to split apart the shortblock and turn the crank/buy new bearings to keep it on the cheap side.

How much power would I expect with a 16g turbo and the exhaust mods.

the car is really nice, but unfortunately its an auto

I'd like to fix it and make a fun little car to play around with in the dirt/snow
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Old 01-23-2011, 10:29 PM   #2
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Uh, buy a new shortblock.
You also need a fuel pump, injectors, and a tune, immediately.

God knows what else the dumbass who sold you the car managed to break.
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Old 01-24-2011, 09:12 AM   #4
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Uh, buy a new shortblock.
You also need a fuel pump, injectors, and a tune, immediately.

God knows what else the dumbass who sold you the car managed to break.
so to do the 16g turbo upgrade you need new injector and a fuel pump? Any recommendations on which ones to get? About how much power does that get you?

Is there different types of 16g turbo's?
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Old 01-24-2011, 09:24 AM   #5
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so to do the 16g turbo upgrade you need new injector and a fuel pump? Any recommendations on which ones to get? About how much power does that get you?

Is there different types of 16g turbo's?
Fuel pump and injectors don't give you more power... I allows you to safely create more power and have more headroom to advance. If you are looking on the cheapside go to witchhunter.com they have modded stock injectors pretty cheap. I recommend 650cc or greater with a walbro 255 LPh fuel pump.
as far as the turbo upgrade I'm not too knowledgeable of the 16g turbos but from other peoples opinions and posts I would say it compares to the vf39 maybe a little stronger.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:41 PM   #6
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....and start thinking about doing a AT to MT swap

the AT isnt gonna do ya any good unless you want to spend a ton more $$$ on it


there are a few guys that use the AT at the drags...but....meh
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:09 PM   #7
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....and start thinking about doing a AT to MT swap

the AT isnt gonna do ya any good unless you want to spend a ton more $$$ on it


there are a few guys that use the AT at the drags...but....meh
NOO!! couple of my buddies have gone thru multiple five speed tranny rebuilds!! AT is the way to go 140k plus on mine, stage 2, shifts as like new and if you know how to lauch itll keep up with 5 speeds, and autos are a lot more convienent. Plus autos can take power better and have a center diff (MTs only have a viscous coupler). IMO the only tranny better is the sti 6 speed, but the hassle with a dccd controller and price thru the roof just is rediculous. Keep the AT, save your money, and get a good shortblock and tune ftw.

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Old 01-24-2011, 09:54 PM   #8
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NOO!! couple of my buddies have gone thru multiple five speed tranny rebuilds!!
Sounds like your buddies need to learn to drive. If you are a true automobile enthusiast switch to the MT.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:03 PM   #9
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What about swapping a sti ej257 engine? Is that a simple bolt in?
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:12 PM   #10
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A ej25 will direct fit into the car. I put a ej25 block in my car with the 2.0 heads still on. The heads will fit on the 2.5 block plus the heads are easier to build and there is a certain functionality for doing it that way. They call it a hybrid motor. And definitely go M/T but 6 speed for sure. I've eaten 5 speeds up its usually the second or third on those to blow up the 6 is much better built and distributes the power better.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:14 PM   #11
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A ej25 will direct fit into the car. I put a ej25 block in my car with the 2.0 heads still on. The heads will fit on the 2.5 block plus the heads are easier to build and there is a certain functionality for doing it that way. They call it a hybrid motor. And definitely go M/T but 6 speed for sure. I've eaten 5 speeds up its usually the second or third on those to blow up the 6 is much better built and distributes the power better.
yikes, that 2.5l shortblock is A LOT more!!!! I've been looking around
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Sell the car and get something else. There are two types of people:

a. Those who buy cars with problems and can fix them without outside assistance.
b. Those that shouldn't.

You are clearly type b.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:17 PM   #13
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Really I found my shortblock for $500
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:42 PM   #14
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Sell the car and get something else. There are two types of people:

a. Those who buy cars with problems and can fix them without outside assistance.
b. Those that shouldn't.

You are clearly type b.
you buddy are a moron, I have more automotive talent and skill in my pinky then you have in your whole body so keep your mouth shut. I just posted here because its the quickest easiest way to get info to see what my options are.

Who are you anyway, let me guess you live with your parents and make close to minimum wage working at an old person home using an old sponge to mop up old guy ball stench so you can afford to have 400whp out of a subaru so all of your 19 year old friends can think you're cool?



oh **** i just saw you had 27k posts and you are a "hateful moderator." Well I'm a guy that has more money in 3 cars sitting in my garage then you've made in the last 4 years. You know I bought this car just like I felt like it and I could run it into a tree for all I care?? Honestly, how much time of your life do you have to waste on a stupid forum to accumulate 27k posts??? Have you ever been with a girl? You a virgin dude? You ever give money to old men in deserted bathroom stalls to blow you to make you feel important and have more money to mod your subi? Dude get a life...you get made fun of in middle school for having bitch tits and your nipples showing through your shirt or something and now have a power trip on a forum to put other people down and make yourself feel better about yourself?

You know you should be more nice to people.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:58 PM   #15
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you buddy are a moron, I have more automotive talent and skill in my pinky then you have in your whole body so keep your mouth shut. I just posted here because its the quickest easiest way to get info to see what my options are.

Who are you anyway, let me guess you live with your parents and make close to minimum wage working at an old person home using an old sponge to mop up old guy ball stench so you can afford to have 400whp out of a subaru so all of your 19 year old friends can think you're cool?



oh **** i just saw you had 27k posts and you are a "hateful moderator." Well I'm a guy that has more money in 3 cars sitting in my garage then you've made in the last 4 years. You know I bought this car just like I felt like it and I could run it into a tree for all I care?? Honestly, how much time of your life do you have to waste on a stupid forum to accumulate 27k posts??? Have you ever been with a girl? You a virgin dude? You ever give money to old men in deserted bathroom stalls to blow you to make you feel important and have more money to mod your subi? Dude get a life...you get made fun of in middle school for having bitch tits and your nipples showing through your shirt or something and now have a power trip on a forum to put other people down and make yourself feel better about yourself?

You know you should be more nice to people.
Agreed. Who the hell is this guy. There is no need to put someone down because they need a little help or advice on what they should do. I bet mommy and daddy payed for all his **** and payed someone else to do it so he could sit on his fat ass all day and flame people online. You need n e advice my friend feel free to ask me. I may not have all the answer for u but I can definitely point u in the right direction and I'm not gomna hate on n e one who needs help.
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Agreed. Who the hell is this guy. There is no need to put someone down because they need a little help or advice on what they should do. I bet mommy and daddy payed for all his **** and payed someone else to do it so he could sit on his fat ass all day and flame people online. You need n e advice my friend feel free to ask me. I may not have all the answer for u but I can definitely point u in the right direction and I'm not gomna hate on n e one who needs help.


any ideas on where to score a shortblock for $500
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Oh man I see 2 incoming TO's. Unabomber knows more than either who insulted him. There is a reason a useful and factual FAQ for almost every question exists.
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Oh man I see 2 incoming TO's. Unabomber knows more than either who insulted him. There is a reason a useful and factual FAQ for almost every question exists.
well he may know a bunch, but what an *******. I don't know much about modding subaru's since i've never owned any, but I have been heavily involved in everything automotive for the past 10+ years. I'm not going to sit idle while some punk makes fun of me when I have paid my dues in the automotive world. I don't deserve to be talked to like that.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:32 PM   #20
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any ideas on where to score a shortblock for $500
I can look around n c. I don't know where ur coming from tho so I may b able to find one but getting it to u may b a challenge
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I can look around n c. I don't know where ur coming from tho so I may b able to find one but getting it to u may b a challenge
I own a salvage yard and I ship hundreds of parts a week so thats not an issue...I can arrange freight. In the salvage yard world these shortblocks/engines score a huge premium.
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Oh man I see 2 incoming TO's. Unabomber knows more than either who insulted him. There is a reason a useful and factual FAQ for almost every question exists.
Doubtful he knows "more". Not everyone is gonna do something the same way. Not saying he don't know what he is doing but u really gotta have no priorities or life for that matter to talk **** to someone who has a question. These forums r here for us to help eachother not for someone to talk **** so he can feel like his **** is made of concrete.
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I own a salvage yard and I ship hundreds of parts a week so thats not an issue...I can arrange freight. In the salvage yard world these shortblocks/engines score a huge premium.
Ill get back to u on it I'm gonna talk to my guy n c wat we can come up with
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Doubtful he knows "more". Not everyone is gonna do something the same way. Not saying he don't know what he is doing but u really gotta have no priorities or life for that matter to talk **** to someone who has a question. These forums r here for us to help eachother not for someone to talk **** so he can feel like his **** is made of concrete.
I can't take you seriously because you put 420 in your name. Unabomber calls it like he sees it. It's not for everyone and I respect that.
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