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Old 02-19-2016, 04:58 PM   #1
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Default Recommended street brake pads for 2015 WRX?

I would like to order a set of higher performance street/brake pads for my 2015 WRX. The car is my daily and will remain on the street for the most part. It will see a few canyon runs (I live in west Denver- lots of mountain/canyon roads to choose from!) and maybe the occasional autoX event, but no full track days; so track pads aren't needed.

I am looking for a pad that will still have good street characteristics- relatively quiet, easy-ish on rotors, low to moderate dust, ect- while giving just a bit more performance than the OEM pads. Namely I'm looking for a bit more fade resistance, as I was able to induce a bit of fade on a spirited downhill canyon drive not too long ago. Nothing crazy, but the pedal went a bit soft and the OEM pads lost some bite on a windy downhill canyon road that previous cars of mine were able to run fade-free on street/OEM pads. The car wasn't being pushed anywhere near its limits and I was really shocked that I was able to induce any fade whatsoever on a relatively mildly/moderately paced canyon drive; granted, the steep downhill grade certainly didn't help.

I'm thinking the OEM pads and fluid are the likely culprits and I'd like to remedy that. I'm planning on swapping the fluid out to ATE fluid, but am still on the fence as far as pads go.

Thus far I'm leaning towards Hawk HPS or HPS 5.0 pads. Anything else I should be considering for a set of street pads?

Thoughts? Recommendations?

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running StopTech Street pads at the moment. pretty good on my daily and canyon runs. But will be upgrading to Hawk HP Plus soon. Need a little more bite for track purposes.
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OP, I am familiar with a few good roads in the rockies and have regularly driven them for years.
Stoptech Street performance pads are pretty good, but you do need to be hard on them with some regularity to help prevent deposit build-up. I imagine HPS are comparable for street driving. ATE typ 200 fluid is some good fluid too, I have used it for both street and track driving and has held up well.

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running StopTech Street pads at the moment. pretty good on my daily and canyon runs. But will be upgrading to Hawk HP Plus soon. Need a little more bite for track purposes.
If you are tracking, then get some track specific pads (or higher temperature rated) and blank rotors. HP+ IS NOT a good track compound, especially if you have alot of frequent braking in a lap.

Here is a nice little compound guide for Hawk Pads:
http://www.hawkperformance.com/stree...nd-application
http://www.hawkperformance.com/race-...nd-application
http://www.hawkperformance.com/compound-graph

That aside, the Stoptech SP pads are decent for light to moderate tracking as they have a broader and higher temperature range. I have used them before for two separate events and were OK for those beginner open lapping days; the pads held up for the most part with some fade occuring on the hard downhill brake zones.

I recommend a set of street pads and blank rotors for regular driving, and a dedicated set of track oriented pads and blank rotors for those track days.

Give the good folks at Turn in Concepts and they can point you in the right direction.

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Old 02-19-2016, 06:44 PM   #4
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I am currently running HPS pads on my 2015 WRX. But I have also swapped out for some STI brembos. I'd say the HPS pads are very DD friendly. My experience is that dusting is not bad at all and the bite is ok. Leaves me wishing for a little more aggressive pad but honestly, I don't really need anything more for DD. I could definitely see me wanting more if I tracked more often.
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I am currently running HPS pads on my 2015 WRX. But I have also swapped out for some STI brembos. I'd say the HPS pads are very DD friendly. My experience is that dusting is not bad at all and the bite is ok. Leaves me wishing for a little more aggressive pad but honestly, I don't really need anything more for DD. I could definitely see me wanting more if I tracked more often.
It's been years since I've used a set of HPS pads, but I don't remember having any complaints about them on a street car. I'm curious about the new HPS 5.0 pads and can't seem to find many reviews on them. I'm assuming both of them would have to be better than the relatively frail OEM pads...

The STI Brembo's would be nice, but probably overkill for a car that will never see track time!
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After doing a bit of digging it looks like the 2015+ WRX uses the same front calipers/rotors as the 05-09 LGT (316x30mm), but uses the same small rear calipers/rotors as the 08-14 WRX (286x10mm).

It seems like quite a few vendors don't have a full list of brake pads that fit the 2015+ WRX on their websites. I'm assuming 05-09 LGT front and 08-14 WRX rear pads should fit.

If I decided to try out the HPS 5.0 I think the part numbers would be as follows:

-Front= HB533B.668
-Rear= HB557B.545

^^^Although a couple of the online fitment guides don't think the rears will fit... anything I'm missing?

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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After doing a bit of digging it looks like the 2015+ WRX uses the same front calipers/rotors as the 05-09 LGT (316x30mm), but uses the same small rear calipers/rotors as the 08-14 WRX (286x10mm).

It seems like quite a few vendors don't have a full list of brake pads that fit the 2015+ WRX on their websites. I'm assuming 05-09 LGT front and 08-14 WRX rear pads should fit.

If I decided to try out the HPS 5.0 I think the part numbers would be as follows:

-Front= HB533B.668
-Rear= HB557B.545

^^^Although a couple of the online fitment guides don't think the rears will fit... anything I'm missing?

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Seems like KNS has a nice selection for you to choose from as well...
http://www.knsbrakes.com/c/car-items...eet+Brake+Pads
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:37 PM   #8
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Apparently the Hawk 5.0's are all the rage. I just got some.. They ain't on yet tho.
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:59 PM   #9
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OP, I am familiar with a few good roads in the rockies and have regularly driven them for years.
Stoptech Street performance pads are pretty good, but you do need to be hard on them with some regularity to help prevent deposit build-up. I imagine HPS are comparable for street driving. ATE typ 200 fluid is some good fluid too, I have used it for both street and track driving and has held up well.
I'm a native here in CO, and you really can't beat the mountain roads we have out here!

Good info on the Stoptechs. I've been reading the same thing about deposit build-ups on them. It's been a few years, but I've used the old HPS compound on former cars and don't remember any build-up issues. I was leaning towards the HPS 5.0 because they seemed like more of an evolution of the old HPS compound. Seems like the Stoptech's have pretty good reviews as far as fade resistance is concerned, but I don't know if I'll need much more than the Hawk's provide...

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Seems like KNS has a nice selection for you to choose from as well...
http://www.knsbrakes.com/c/car-items...eet+Brake+Pads
KNS seems to have the biggest selection I've seen listed! Note to self... Thanks bud.
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My stoptech SP arrived this week, should be going on this weekend. $87 total for front and rear on rockauto.
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:05 AM   #11
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I always recommend Porterfield R4-S for street pads. They have good fade resistance and don't dust badly and don't leave deposits in daily driving. They also aren't grabby on initial bite like the StopTechs can be. I've never seen the appeal in the StopTechs except maybe price. I think they're shyte but whatever. The Porterfields are a bit pricey but excel for a street pad IMO, besides a little more money for one of the most important performance parts you will buy is worthwhile not to mention the constant satisfaction you feel when stepping on the brake pedal.
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We always have a large selection of brakes for your WRX including the 2015+ models from street to track.

Contact us via PM or email and we'll get you what you need.

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Contact us via PM or email and we'll get you what you need.

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@KNS or anyone.

My '16 WRX has superb brakes... worlds better than my '15, and even better than my STi on the street. I thought it might be due to the EyeSight, but research shows it has different front and rear pads.

While I'm totally satisfied, amazed really, by the stock brakes, not only for their excellence but also because they don't dust... I've had aftermarket pads in previous cars/bikes and know the right pad can be even better. Or can they.

So my question to you is, while you list pads for '15+, have you specifically identified the '16's OEM pads, and know for certain that your recommendations are an improvement. ? .

When I had my '15 I'd all but settled on Ferodo DS2500 pads. I do not race, anymore, and my WRX is a DD. Nothing I've encountered driving these WV mountains/roads have taxed my brakes whatsoever. I don't want brake pads with issues, like noise, grabbing, need to warm up, etc. or that dust excessively or wear the rotors. I know... sounds like I should leave well enough alone, right. But if there is a pad that makes a meaningful improvement and behaves civilly in a DD I'd like to hear about it.

I drive hard when I'm playing, and am a late braker, fwiw. Lots of autox, Dragon runs (which fried my LGT's lol) and decades on sport bikes makes every road a series of apexes to best. I have a MC brace and upgraded fluid. I'll upgrade the pads if it makes driving noticeably safer or more reliable.
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I just ordered a set of HPS 5.0 pads from KNS Brakes. I'll be sure to write up a review once I get them bedded in.
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@KNS or anyone.

My '16 WRX has superb brakes... worlds better than my '15, and even better than my STi on the street. I thought it might be due to the EyeSight, but research shows it has different front and rear pads.

While I'm totally satisfied, amazed really, by the stock brakes, not only for their excellence but also because they don't dust... I've had aftermarket pads in previous cars/bikes and know the right pad can be even better. Or can they.

So my question to you is, while you list pads for '15+, have you specifically identified the '16's OEM pads, and know for certain that your recommendations are an improvement. ? .

When I had my '15 I'd all but settled on Ferodo DS2500 pads. I do not race, anymore, and my WRX is a DD. Nothing I've encountered driving these WV mountains/roads have taxed my brakes whatsoever. I don't want brake pads with issues, like noise, grabbing, need to warm up, etc. or that dust excessively or wear the rotors. I know... sounds like I should leave well enough alone, right. But if there is a pad that makes a meaningful improvement and behaves civilly in a DD I'd like to hear about it.

I drive hard when I'm playing, and am a late braker, fwiw. Lots of autox, Dragon runs (which fried my LGT's lol) and decades on sport bikes makes every road a series of apexes to best. I have a MC brace and upgraded fluid. I'll upgrade the pads if it makes driving noticeably safer or more reliable.
I assume the shape has remained the same but we need to confirm that.

The compound could certainly have changed for 2016 and be 'improved' performance wise but that's not easy to measure/find out. Generally though - a Hawk 5.0 or similar is a modest improvement over most stock pads without noise/excessive dust etc. The DS2500's creep into objectionable behavior territory but almost certainly will show significant performance increases most notable when hot and used harder.
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I just ordered a set of HPS 5.0 pads from KNS Brakes. I'll be sure to write up a review once I get them bedded in.
Thanks - and we look forward to your feedback.

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I have been dealing w/ kns for a few years now and trust their opinion/guidance

I had the hps and stoptech sp in my brides 05 lgt and switched to the 5.0 about a year ago , perfect street pad imho

my sti and sf fozzie w/ 4/2 pots have seen many different pad brands/compounds as well but the foz will be getting the 5.0 next time it's due

my sti serves triple duty and pads and /or rotors are swapped accordingly

bleeding the brakes is done every other oil change or before every track event

I am also curious as to the op's feedback on the 5.0 , I have suggested them to a few others and all have liked them for a dd/touring sport type pad on a variety of vehicles
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running StopTech Street pads at the moment. pretty good on my daily and canyon runs. But will be upgrading to Hawk HP Plus soon. Need a little more bite for track purposes.
still haven't put my stoptechs on... the fronts look fine but one of the rears is missing this clip

(Rallysportdirect hawk hps)


the first time I received them was 3 without clip, 1 with clip, it needs to be 2 and 2 right? I sent them back and today i received my replacements, guess what its 3+1 again. I peeked under the caliper and both sides have the clip. wtf? did they just send me the wrong thing twice? I don't know what the name of that clip is and i'm not putting parts on my car that are incomplete...
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still haven't put my stoptechs on... the fronts look fine but one of the rears is missing this clip

(Rallysportdirect hawk hps)


the first time I received them was 3 without clip, 1 with clip, it needs to be 2 and 2 right? I sent them back and today i received my replacements, guess what its 3+1 again. I peeked under the caliper and both sides have the clip. wtf? did they just send me the wrong thing twice? I don't know what the name of that clip is and i'm not putting parts on my car that are incomplete...

It's just a low pad squeal indicator (that is pretty inaccurate) They fall off in the box all time etc. That's much ado about nothing.
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It's just a low pad squeal indicator (that is pretty inaccurate) They fall off in the box all time etc. That's much ado about nothing.
cool thanks.
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UPDATE: swapped in the Hawk HPS 5.0 pads today and also bled the lines with some new ATE Typ200 fluid. Just got done bedding them in.

The Motive Power Bleeder makes this whole job a simple, one-man affair. Highly recommended.

I'll be sure to post my impressions after I spend 1-2 weeks driving them around.

Shortly after that I'll be swapping back over to summer wheels/tires and I'll be sure to bring the car to my favorite canyon road and post more impressions.

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Initial Impressions:

After about a 30 minute drive, I figured I would post some quick impressions while the old pads were still pretty fresh in my brain.

-Initial bite: there is probably just a tad bit more initial bite than stock, but nothing crazy; barely noticeable to be honest. They seem pretty civilized and aren't at all what I would consider grabby. I've owned a couple of cars where the OEM brakes were very grabby; these don't fit that description thus far.

-Modulation: I haven't really pushed them hard as of yet, but thus far, they're really easy to modulate. Probably similar to the stock brakes, but with more stopping power.

-Stopping power: when you push the pedal hard, they seem to be more aggressive than stock. It could just be a placebo effect, but they seem to have more overall stopping power than stock.

-Noise: none at all. I used the supplied brake grease pretty liberally, so I'm assuming it helped. Either way, I haven't noticed any noise over the OEM pads. Only time will tell if that remains the case.

Thus far, they seem like they're going to be really good daily driver/street pads. I'll be curious to see how they perform in the canyons.

I'm not sure how much bleeding the brakes with new fluid helped, but given the fact that my car only has 14k miles on it, the old fluid was still in pretty good shape. The OEM brake pads also had lots of life left in them:

-OEM front pad at 14k miles:


OEM rear pad at 14k miles:



Thus far I haven't driven them very hard, so I can't yet say if they'll help with fade resistance. Obviously I also can't comment on brake dust as of yet, and I'm not sure I'll really be able to anyway as my OEM (winter) wheels are dark gray and my summer wheels (OZ Ultraleggera's) are black. If I notice any real increase of decrease in brake dust, I'll be sure to post feedback.

Thanks again to KNS brakes!
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Did you ever find out if this was the correct part #?

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After doing a bit of digging it looks like the 2015+ WRX uses the same front calipers/rotors as the 05-09 LGT (316x30mm), but uses the same small rear calipers/rotors as the 08-14 WRX (286x10mm).

It seems like quite a few vendors don't have a full list of brake pads that fit the 2015+ WRX on their websites. I'm assuming 05-09 LGT front and 08-14 WRX rear pads should fit.

If I decided to try out the HPS 5.0 I think the part numbers would be as follows:

-Front= HB533B.668
-Rear= HB557B.545

^^^Although a couple of the online fitment guides don't think the rears will fit... anything I'm missing?

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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