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Old 07-10-2002, 06:32 PM   #1
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Default did any one see the Car & Driver cover on the new 350Z - 287 hp ?

man - those Z guys are going to give us a run for our $$$ - - Can you imagine that thing with twin turbos??

Why is it that they are going to start with the "track edition" right away off the bat and we have to wait over a year for SOA to rbing the sti and still no news on the sti arrival date ??
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Old 07-10-2002, 06:57 PM   #2
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Because the track edition isn't the end

I may see my next daily driver
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Old 07-10-2002, 07:04 PM   #3
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Old 07-10-2002, 07:47 PM   #4
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Because the track edition isn't the end

I may see my next daily driver
The fact that the track ed might not be "the end" and that very likely there will be a twin turbo - thats scary - it looks like an amazing car (not to mention the stock 6 spd)
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Old 07-10-2002, 07:58 PM   #5
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I read a thread on the board recently where the Z board guys were actually disappointed because they thought it was going to be around 315hp. The thing that most of them were mad about is the weight of the car. The track ed. version of the car is > 3400lbs. I'm waiting for the RX8 myself, I'm not a big fan of the styling of the 350Z.
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Old 07-10-2002, 08:00 PM   #6
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I read a thread on the board recently where the Z board guys were actually disappointed because they thought it was going to be around 315hp. The thing that most of them were mad about is the weight of the car. The track ed. version of the car is > 3400lbs. I'm waiting for the RX8 myself, I'm not a big fan of the styling of the 350Z.
if i would get one of those - which i won't becuase I love mhy subaru - and would get the evo vii as my next choice - - - I would strip it down to the bone on weight just like i did with my WRX!
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Old 07-10-2002, 09:50 PM   #7
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That car's a freaking boat!

Also it's a V6...I don't like 'V' engines. Too bad it wasn't a straight 6.

Oh well, can't ask for too much. It's just nice to see some good Japanese sports cars coming to America...heavy, V6, ugly rear or not, this helps open the doors for future Japanese sports cars. And just think, (at least IMO), if it weren't for those honda heads making the import scene so huge, I don't think we'd have these cars coming over.
One way or another, I welcome the 'Japanese invasion'!
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Old 07-10-2002, 10:23 PM   #8
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I tossed the idea around, but given that nmy has arond 600 HP, I am sticking with it. Long live old school baby!

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Old 07-11-2002, 09:32 AM   #9
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This talk about twin turboing the new 350z. Do you have any idea the amount of work involved and the cost in doing a project such as that. That car is not setup to be turbocharged. It would cost a fortune. For the money the WRX is much cheaper to modify. I would love to see the amount of money it will cost to make a 350z run low 12s. Just wait. It will be way out of range of my wallet. Also, did you catch the final cost. It was $35,000.
I seriously dought the new 350z will be a 1/4 mile dragster. How many Porsche Boxter S do you see at the drag stip? Its that kind of car.
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Old 07-11-2002, 10:18 AM   #10
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I'd bet the 350z will be in the high 12's w/ bolt-ons.

I'd also bet that w/ a s/c or mild turbo kit, it'll be deep into the 12's. Put some slicks on her, some race fuel, and I wouldn't be shocked by a good 11.X run.

I do agree that a twin turbo kit would be too expensive for most and too hard to do, but 2 turbos wouldn't be needed for an application like this.
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Old 07-11-2002, 11:19 AM   #11
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I'd bet the 350z will be in the high 12's w/ bolt-ons.

I'd also bet that w/ a s/c or mild turbo kit, it'll be deep into the 12's. Put some slicks on her, some race fuel, and I wouldn't be shocked by a good 11.X run.

I do agree that a twin turbo kit would be too expensive for most and too hard to do, but 2 turbos wouldn't be needed for an application like this.
A twin turbo would be the easier thing to do on a V6 because of piping issues. There are few single turbo V6's (there are only ~2-3 Single turbo Z32's). I didn't notice whether or not it has 2 TB's though. I see it running 13's with bolt-ons.

Al, as somone already said, the track model 'only' upgrades the suspension and braking, making it much better for track duty. It's not any special model or anything. I like the looks of the concept better.

When the turbo comes, it should rock!

Did anyone else notice they got the Exact same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as they did with the WRX? (it trapped higher).

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Old 07-11-2002, 01:17 PM   #12
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Nah, not really. They could just have it setup to how the original turbo z was...
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Old 07-11-2002, 01:52 PM   #13
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Nah, not really. They could just have it setup to how the original turbo z was...
True. Only time will tell. I wouldn't boost a new car. That's just me.
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Old 07-19-2002, 03:00 AM   #14
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I had the pleasure of driving one this week and have to say, I was impressed.

I own a stage 0 WRX wagon which I LOVE, so please don't think I'm in any way detracting from our cars. That said, here's my impressions:

I didn't like the cars' styling in the mags...in person, it is much easier on the eyes. In fact, I thought it looked really stylish.

The interior is really nicely laid out with a nod to the 240z (my first car) on gauge placement in the center of the dash. The door and console material was a kind of oddish texture, but ok.

The Z engine is the exact opposite of ours...all the power down low, with a quick trail off after 5500-6000 RPMS...similar to my M Roadster. It felt faster than a stock WRX, but not as fast as my Stage 0.

Suspension and steering feel are really great. Lots of road feedback and very firm. This car will do really nice on the twisties.

Overall, don't count this car out just yet. I think it is going to do really well once people start driving it. The one I drove is supposed to sticker for around $28K. Not bad considering the performance.
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Old 07-19-2002, 03:12 PM   #15
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I like the way my old Z feels at low rpms in the lower gears. The 350 being na would feel like that + more power.

I just added the TXS IC to my stg 2 WRX and I a find that it feels a lot like a Z in the lower rpm ranges, I don't use as much clutch slip now.

Today I took a steep winding mountain road in 5th at 50 to 60 with boost never going over 7 psi, and usually at about 0 to 3.5. The feel was similar to the Z in 5th gear on the same hill.

With the new unichip map for the large IC my WRX will make more power and torque than the stock 350Z and be lighter. Plus the upgrade path will still be open regarding N20 or stage 4+

Does anyone else drive around with the interior quiet, including the AC quieted, so you hear all the nice sounds while being attentive to driving? I have even thought about recording the interior sounds of a nice drive in the mountains.
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Old 07-19-2002, 04:16 PM   #16
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This new article sums up the z pretty well
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Old 07-21-2002, 09:14 PM   #17
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I have yet to see a 350z in person, but from the photos it looks like an Audi TT and a Celica half-breed. (not saying that is a bad thing, just an observation)

I have however been able to go for a ride in a G35, and its looks are a little bit less "out-there", and lemme tell you that car is awesome. Fast, Comfortable, and all the neat stuff (i.e. Pop-up DVD navigation etc...) and they are going to introduce the Infiniti version of the 2dr soon, i cant wait to see what it looks like.
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Old 07-22-2002, 01:34 AM   #18
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SGOSWRX - I don't know how many track days you've been too but Boxters, 911's, M3's (always 1 or two), Vette's (there are almost always a couple of these even though they don't usually do well) and RX-7's are there in spades on track days (racing around the track, not 1/4 miles).

I think track days are a better overall test of a cars total ability to handle and perform. The cars that almost never make it more than once (my opinion) are the Camero's, Mustang's and Cobra's (the guys with the Vettes keep comming back though, even though they almost always are near the bottom, but we aren't really racing )

Good Luck
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Old 07-22-2002, 01:55 PM   #19
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Prez&SUS

Friend of mine just put his money down : FreshAlloy Preview

I think it's sweet - nicer rear end than the 350Z - and essentially the same car *ahem*



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Old 07-24-2002, 01:28 PM   #20
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For 35K I would rather get a Cobra than the 350. An intake change, exhaust swap, and pulley change, and those dudes run high 11's. Mind you, it's still a Ford.
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Old 07-24-2002, 08:16 PM   #21
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I'd rather pick up a year-old M-Coupe with the 315hp inline six for less money. Of course, I'm a little taller than 5'8", so fitting myself behind the wheel of the M would be a bit tougher than the 350Z.
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