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Old 03-10-2011, 07:36 PM   #351
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So, the axleback back is only $299, but when it becomes a catback, simply adding a midpipe, the price jumps $600 to $899? Am I missing something?
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:28 AM   #352
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So, the axleback back is only $299, but when it becomes a catback, simply adding a midpipe, the price jumps $600 to $899? Am I missing something?
Yes, you're missing one piece of the puzzle. The Sedan axleback is $299. Midpipe not priced yet.

Hatch axleback is $435 (on sale) with the midpipe it goes to $899. It has a muffler in it.

The pricing may also go down on the midpipe and bring that total down.

The sedan midpipe we have a few different options of how to build those out and haven't discussed pricing yet.

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Old 03-11-2011, 06:26 AM   #353
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So, the axleback back is only $299, but when it becomes a catback, simply adding a midpipe, the price jumps $600 to $899? Am I missing something?
Because the market has proven to bear a price of $899 (or more) for a catback exhaust?

That being said, Nameless doesn't strike me as a company that would inflate prices just because that's what everybody else is doing.
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:28 AM   #354
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Yes, you're missing one piece of the puzzle. The Sedan axleback is $299. Midpipe not priced yet.

Hatch axleback is $435 (on sale) with the midpipe it goes to $899. It has a muffler in it.

The pricing may also go down on the midpipe and bring that total down.

The sedan midpipe we have a few different options of how to build those out and haven't discussed pricing yet.

Thanks.

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So it's very likely the catback will be less than $799. Don't get me wrong, I think you are putting out a great product. In fact, I just purchased your axleback from a member on here. However, and this is only my opinion, you are a new company that does not have a reputation yet for putting out quality products. Yes, they look excellent and appear very well thought out so far. However, no one has owned one long enough to know if it rusts up or the welds will break. I like the fact that you stand by your product if anything were to happen and I hope, even though I did not directly purchase from you, you might stand by the one I bought.

Anyway, if you are trying to create a positive reputation, I personally would be hard pressed to buy your catback for the same price I can get from a well know company, such as Perrin, HKS, etc. I have owned their products and trust them. Unfortunately there is not a lot out there right now for the '11 WRX sedan. I came across your product and it sounds good. I'm giving it a shot and will certainly write a review of it once it's on my car. Just something to think about, as other people may have the same thought as I do.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:46 AM   #355
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Wow, the Subaru aftermarket world sure has changed in ten years. I think when I got my RS the most popular exhaust was Billy Bob's local muffler shop. I was thrilled to find a mild steel Stromung that rusted almost immediately.

Now a new company doing great work and being incredibly straight forward with a deeply ignorant public is taking crap for completely reasonable prices.

Before you give me crap about what I know or don't know go watch the tig welding video and tell me why it is the sexiest vendor video EVER posted.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:52 AM   #356
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Keep doing what you do, Nameless... I'm picking up my car today and will be in touch very soon to do business...

USA business ftw!
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:18 AM   #357
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Now a new company doing great work and being incredibly straight forward with a deeply ignorant public is taking crap for completely reasonable prices.
Never once did I, or I think anyone, put down the company and the great work they seem to be doing. Hence, it a reason I am taking a chance on their axleback. My basic point was they are a new company and are looking to build a customer base. No one has any true idea of the long-term quality of their product, some many may be opposed to spending the same amount on a catback through them as they could through a well known company who has years of proven quality. Everyone, myself included, is entitled to make suggestions or provide opinions. It's called a "forum" for a reason.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:26 AM   #358
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:36 AM   #359
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:01 AM   #360
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No one has any true idea of the long-term quality of their product
Not true. That is why I referenced the video. If you understand what you are seeing you will have a pretty solid idea of the gauge and quality of the steel and the ability of that welder. They already referenced what tubing they are using for production. Knowing that and seeing the care taken to not over heat or oxidize the welds you can make an excellent estimate on longevity.

Obviously we don't have a long term test fleet of vehicles to observe anecdotal evidence but they are providing dramatically more information than the other vendors you mentioned.

I won't even be buying an exhaust and I'm still all up on the love train for Nameless. They aren't hand holding the audience on why they are better but if you understand metal and welding it is all there for you to see.
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:10 AM   #361
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Ordered mine for the hatch last week. I'm really hoping it's in today so I can have it for the weekend, but I'm not holding my breath. I can't wait to get it in, but I know Jason and his team will be taking their time to make sure it's done right
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:12 AM   #362
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Ordered mine for the hatch last week. I'm really hoping it's in today so I can have it for the weekend, but I'm not holding my breath. I can't wait to get it in, but I know Jason and his team will be taking their time to make sure it's done right
Please make a video comparing stock to axleback!
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Ordered mine for the hatch last week. I'm really hoping it's in today so I can have it for the weekend, but I'm not holding my breath. I can't wait to get it in, but I know Jason and his team will be taking their time to make sure it's done right
You're not installing it yourself?

+1 for making a video. Also, please take pics of the fitment, especially a rear view of the tips. Did you get staggered or equal?
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You're not installing it yourself?

+1 for making a video. Also, please take pics of the fitment, especially a rear view of the tips. Did you get staggered or equal?
Yeah I'll be installing it myself, but it takes a while to fabricate and I'm from Kansas so I have to wait for shipping as well. I ordered staggered, and I'm gonna try to take vids and pictures of it if I can be patient enough...
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Nameless performance is welding my together for my sedan , I can't wait to have them installed
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Because the market has proven to bear a price of $899 (or more) for a catback exhaust?

That being said, Nameless doesn't strike me as a company that would inflate prices just because that's what everybody else is doing.
Why post this conjecture when I had an accurate response already posted? Put the snap back on your keyboard holster there Annie Oakley.

I'm just playin, Jimmy. We have every intention to design competitively priced systems and there's no way we'd inflate the prices of one part after deflating the other that was released first, that's not at all how we roll.

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Old 03-11-2011, 01:16 PM   #368
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Anyway, if you are trying to create a positive reputation, I personally would be hard pressed to buy your catback for the same price I can get from a well know company, such as Perrin, HKS, etc. I have owned their products and trust them. Unfortunately there is not a lot out there right now for the '11 WRX sedan. I came across your product and it sounds good. I'm giving it a shot and will certainly write a review of it once it's on my car. Just something to think about, as other people may have the same thought as I do.
Yeah I don't expect us to have a reputation based on photos. But it's not like we're just three guys who are in a garage somewhere. John, who welds all of our exhausts currently, three years ago he built the intercooling system on a 1014hp EVO that was on the cover of D-Sport magazine and he's also built parts on 2500hp twin 42R SBC's. I've designed everything from complex aircraft structures that have passed dynamic testing and FAA certification to complex 4 & 5 Axis mill turned machined parts. I've authored robotics and optical sensor patents and run the engineering department of a 30M/year motion control company with 25 electrical, computer, mechanical and manufacturing engineers under me. But designing automotive parts and control systems is what we love to do, so we've cashed out our 401k's, sacrificed every spare second of our time (John still has a full time day job and still puts in 40 hours a week here) to get into this market aggressively and pursue a career in what we love to do.

We've got hundreds of parts out on a wide variety of European and Japanese cars right now...on four continents...with no complaints or failures. You think I'd sink so much of my savings into a company if I didn't have faith in our ability to design, engineer and manufacture quality components? Not a chance.

STi2NY, I think you're going to love the exhaust. I'm excited to share the midpipe design options with ya also. Soon!!

Someone else asked about a single exit hatch exhaust. We will be working on one of those VERY soon. There's only so much we can do at a time to continue adding products to our catalog. And I'm not about to ask people to stop ordering existing parts so we can develop new ones.

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Jason,

No need to worry about the haters. Don't waste time on them (we're all waiting for more products, especially the 08+ sedan lol), the rest of us are more than willing to purchase your product.
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Jason,

No need to worry about the haters. Don't waste time on them (we're all waiting for more products, especially the 08+ sedan lol), the rest of us are more than willing to purchase your product.
Definitely I am also more than willing to support your company. I'd be happy to throw some Nameless Performance stickers on my WRX to help advertise.
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Well mine has made it through snow, rain, icing, and there isn't any rust. They still look just as.good as when I bought them. When they're clean
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No need to worry about the haters. Don't waste time on them (we're all waiting for more products, especially the 08+ sedan lol), the rest of us are more than willing to purchase your product.
Who in the world is hating? If you are referring to me then you need to actually read what I wrote. If you take a moment you will see that I actually purchased their axleback because it looks like a quality product and sounds great. I provided a simple pricing suggestion as a new business on these forums. I have been around the Subaru community, as you can see from my profile, to have witnessed many companies come and go. I hope Nameless is here to stay because it would have an awesome company that takes pride in what they put out. I look forward to seeing their midpipe options, which I would need to mate up with the axleback I should have next week. Seriously, people need to relax...
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Why post this conjecture when I had an accurate response already posted? Put the snap back on your keyboard holster there Annie Oakley.

I'm just playin, Jimmy. We have every intention to design competitively priced systems and there's no way we'd inflate the prices of one part after deflating the other that was released first, that's not at all how we roll.

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LOL... I guess I failed at wrapping a compliment for you guys in some sarcasm for the OP.

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Anyone have a video of Namless' axleback + stock mid (with resonator) + 3" dp (Catless)? I've searched, but couldn't find any. If not, this is the setup I'll be at in a few weeks, and I'll post the video up. Lets hope for not tooo much rasp.
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