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Old 02-07-2011, 06:55 PM   #1
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The Utah region ) is proud to present the February 2011 SCCA Utah Region RallyCross. It will be held at the Miller Motorsports Park on february 19th. Registration will be open from 8:00am to 9:30am, the driver's meeting will be at 9:45am, with first car running at 10:00am. The event usually goes until mid to late afternoon, with each competitor being given at least six runs.



All competitors must have and show a current valid drivers license(their own), and all cars (fixed-roof production based, including convertibles with a factory hardtop attached and targa or t-top types with factory panel(s) in place) must be able to pass technical inspection. Helmets are required and must meet Snell 1995 (SA95, M95, or K98) or newer labeled helmets are approved for use. For those without a proper helmet, a few loaners are available.



Entry fees are
$30 for SCCA Members
$45 for Non-SCCA Members




(Join the SCCA Today!: http://www.scca.com/joinnow.aspx )




For directions to Miller Motorsport Park Site check out this link.
(http://www.millermotorsportspark.com/directions/)




There will be a few different RallyCross and RallyX series running this year so for rules and car classing details check out the FAQ and the Links below.
For the Car Classing FAQ for the new rules click here.
(http://forums.utahscca.com/showthrea...6545#post56545)





For a listing of the Rules and Regulations for SCCA RallyCross 2011 please visit.





For a listing of the Rules and Regulations for FRX (Formula Rally X) please visit
(http://www.formularallyx.com/rules.shtml)





If there are any questions, please contact me. I do hope to see you there; and bring a friend or two, to come play in the dirt too. This site has seriously the minimum impact on any car, painters tape is recommended if you're worried about your paint, but no ruts to worry about at this site!!!
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:08 PM   #2
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:18 AM   #3
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I was told the times could be found on utahscca.com but I have looked and they are not posted yet, I got a glimps of what some of them were and what some of my times were and who was 1st 2nd and 3rd overall for the day
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:51 PM   #4
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I took a phone pic of the times but it was too blurry to see the numbers. Sometimes they are a bit slow to post the times but they should be up by the end of this week, I would just keep checking the SCCA site. Top three were Eric in the WRX, quicksubie, and me. I'm pretty sure Josh would've beat me if he didn't DNF his last run.

Next month should be a lot of fun. The western states championship will draw a big crowd. I won't be able to drive but I'm going to come take pictures and video either later on Saturday or on Sunday.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:56 PM   #5
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I took a phone pic of the times but it was too blurry to see the numbers. Sometimes they are a bit slow to post the times but they should be up by the end of this week, I would just keep checking the SCCA site. Top three were Eric in the WRX, quicksubie, and me. I'm pretty sure Josh would've beat me if he didn't DNF his last run.

Next month should be a lot of fun. The western states championship will draw a big crowd. I won't be able to drive but I'm going to come take pictures and video either later on Saturday or on Sunday.

and i was only 5 hundredths of a sec slower then eric was on my last run

cant wait for next month its going to be bad ass!
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:27 PM   #6
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It was way fun and I really enjoyed it, and I don't mean to be negative but, to be honest I was a little disappointed.. I just wanna put out my 2 cents. The racing part was way fun, but the track is kinda short... I personally didn't like how it was organized and some of the SCCA rules seemed slightly ridiculous to me (no going over 50mph, no taking pictures at the corner stations, only 1995 helmets etc. BTW I'm comparing this to Wintercross and Wintercross rules aren't that strict. ) . And I wish there were more people their. In cases like this I think they should merge classes. All 4wd together all rwd etc. And in the practice runs they should loose the timing, and corner workers and just line up and go every 30 seconds and not worry about if a cone gets knocked over. Just go non stop for an hour or two. Also the safety steward kinda rude when I was registering. And my final gripe is the track was too short.. it seemed like it was over too quickly. I know that none of these are the organizers fault, and this is not intended to bitch about the event but as constructive criticism. Also if you disagree with me let's try to keep this conversation on an adult level.
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:37 AM   #7
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First I'd like to say I'm glad you had a good time and would love to see you come out again. I'll admit we where more than a little unorganized, but that is what happens when a few people are stretched thin. The best way to solve this is to get more volunteers. If anyone would like to come help at an event they will not be turned away.

As far as your rules complaints there is nothing we can do about that. The speed thing is a huge issue if we have a car that winds up rolling at 30 the driver is most likely just going to be pissed he rolled his car VS rolling 70 he's pretty much screwed... With worked stations we do not have enough people out there working to have people out on the track taking pictures. It is unsafe and you can't really pay attention to whats going on around you. Now with the helmets again theres nothing we can do about it for good reason. Those helmets are 15-20 years old. They are not as safe as they once where nor where they up to the same safety standard as a newer helmet to begin with. This rule as well as the other two are for your safety.

As far as getting more people out the only way that is going to happen is if you keep coming and bring a friend or two. This is a small sport but I believe theres a lot of people that would love to get into it they just don't know we're here.

Also merging classes would have made no difference we still have to make the two run groups as even as possible. There also where no practice runs so I'm not sure what you're referring to there. Running the event in the way you described is just unsafe. The track conditions at that rate would degrade quickly and coarse changes would need to be made every 15 minutes or so. No rally cross is run like this its not like an open track day. I would like to know why you felt the safety steward was rude. Finally the only way to make the track longer is to make the track slower... That is a pretty big space but when you're going 40 around the whole thing that makes a huge difference. I hope that covered all your concerns.
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Old 02-24-2011, 12:32 PM   #8
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I can understand where you are coming from, some of the rules can seem strange, but they are set by the national rally cross board. A lot of it has to do with the insurance company that insures the events and sets safety requirements. If we don't follow them then it's possible they could pull our sanctioning to prevent us from holding events. As for merging classes, overall points are given for year-end awards in each class, so if they were to combine classes it could mess that up.

They don't do practice runs because the SCCA tries to keep the "feel" of stage rally. So you aren't able to prerun the course at speed just like in stage rally, just do a parade lap and walk the course like how they do recce. Also this is why all the run times are cumulative, in stage rally all of the stages count towards your final time. Unlike autocross where they just take your single fastest run of the day and count that.

At the national rallyx two years ago I was getting up to 60-70mph on a back straight (in my wrx swapped RS, my wagon couldn't go that fast lol), so I have seen that rule bend a bit which I was fine with.


Times are now up on the SCCA site: http://forums.utahscca.com/showthrea...1158#post71158
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Old 02-24-2011, 01:39 PM   #9
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Thank you Ross for covering what I missed tried to post every before work this morning
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:03 PM   #10
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Info on next months event?
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