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Old 02-08-2011, 12:42 PM   #1
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Default Sonic Tuning (Gaithersburg, MD)... coilovers any good?

So my stock struts are blown and I'm looking to lower my car once it's done snowing. I'm on a college budget so right now i'm trying to decide between getting some kyb agx struts with asjustable lowering springs (already own the springs) or getting a budget set of coilovers (birthday is coming up so I would end up paying about the same out of pocket for each option)

My friend found these online, they're made by a company called Sonic Tuning. Anyone hears of them? They're a vendor on here but I can't seem to find any reviews of their coilovers.
http://www.sonictuning.com/subaru-gd...coilovers.html

They're about $750 and from what I can see the materials look pretty good. I'm not tracking the car, it's just my DD.

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Old 02-08-2011, 01:11 PM   #2
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spend a bit more and get
tokicos+RCE blacks+group n tophats.

PS link to adjustable springs?
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:34 PM   #3
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They are the same style as these, bought them off a friend though and they don't have a name on them.
http://www.modacar.com/bolt-on/produ...676-18146.html
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:13 PM   #4
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:19 PM   #5
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haven't heard of sonic coilovers, but my kybagx with p1 springs is decent. I have them set in the middle of hard and soft...gonna try the hardest setting to get more control
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:20 PM   #6
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Get rid of what you have, get a set of struts (Tokico D-Spec, KYB AGX, Koni Yellow, etc.) and properly designed lowering springs (RCE Yellows or Blacks, Swift Spec-R). Throw in a set of Whiteline Com-C front top mounts and Group-N rear tops and you will have a really nice daily driver setup. TONS better than any of the budget coilovers.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:52 PM   #7
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Get rid of what you have, get a set of struts (Tokico D-Spec, KYB AGX, Koni Yellow, etc.) and properly designed lowering springs (RCE Yellows or Blacks, Swift Spec-R). Throw in a set of Whiteline Com-C front top mounts and Group-N rear tops and you will have a really nice daily driver setup. TONS better than any of the budget coilovers.
there are rumors in the euro circles (won't spread specifics in case people run with it when it's not confirmed yet) that these are sporting some very nice internals. I'm in the process of getting real info.
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:26 PM   #8
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there are rumors in the euro circles (won't spread specifics in case people run with it when it's not confirmed yet) that these are sporting some very nice internals. I'm in the process of getting real info.
I wonder what top hat options there are, if these do in fact turn out to be good
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:49 PM   #9
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I wonder what top hat options there are, if these do in fact turn out to be good
you simply cannot build a set of decent coil overs for under 1.5. materials simply cost more than that.

if youre going to cheap out, check out the suspension forum on the subject of "raceland"

~350 IIRC.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:42 AM   #10
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you simply cannot build a set of decent coil overs for under 1.5. materials simply cost more than that.
Just to play devil's advocate, ST Suspension which is owned by KW sells re-branded V1s for less than 1K IIRC. Granted the shock body is different, but everything else is the same.

I think we have to keep in mind what he plans on doing with the car. I have never ran a set of Sonic Tuning coils, but it would be nice to see what they are like and for $800 it doesn't seem like a bad test.

If I was in the OPs shoes and the car is simply a DD, I would get some struts, springs, and call it a day.

Lastly, its not materials that cost the most in coils, its R&D which should be recouped by manufacturers now considering the GD body has been around for 10 years and isn't much different than the GC/GM/GF body.
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Just to play devil's advocate, ST Suspension which is owned by KW sells re-branded V1s for less than 1K IIRC. Granted the shock body is different, but everything else is the same.

I think we have to keep in mind what he plans on doing with the car. I have never ran a set of Sonic Tuning coils, but it would be nice to see what they are like and for $800 it doesn't seem like a bad test.

If I was in the OPs shoes and the car is simply a DD, I would get some struts, springs, and call it a day.

Lastly, its not materials that cost the most in coils, its R&D which should be recouped by manufacturers now considering the GD body has been around for 10 years and isn't much different than the GC/GM/GF body.

Exactly. RaceComp and GTWORX is a great local example.

I'll take plain jane steel bodies as long as they don't seize before I set the car up I stayed dropped all winter and was fine, but I would much rather be higher



Also, for the OP, yeah, just like what wrxSIN said...

tokicos+RCE blacks+group n tophats.
tokicos+RCE blacks+group n tophats.
tokicos+RCE blacks+group n tophats.

Skip the top hats if you're going to cheap out on anything there (you'll need the 04+ dspec conversion bits.).

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Old 02-09-2011, 01:55 AM   #12
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If they're anything like their wheels they sell, I would go ahead and just move along.

Seems like a good alternative to BC coilovers tho, if that's your cup of tea.
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read the raceland thread.

i believe a few people actually priced it out and that was the number
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Just to play devil's advocate, ST Suspension which is owned by KW sells re-branded V1s for less than 1K IIRC. Granted the shock body is different, but everything else is the same.

I think we have to keep in mind what he plans on doing with the car. I have never ran a set of Sonic Tuning coils, but it would be nice to see what they are like and for $800 it doesn't seem like a bad test.

If I was in the OPs shoes and the car is simply a DD, I would get some struts, springs, and call it a day.

Lastly, its not materials that cost the most in coils, its R&D which should be recouped by manufacturers now considering the GD body has been around for 10 years and isn't much different than the GC/GM/GF body.
the valving and springs (at least) are also different than what's found in the v1. I think people are glossing over this because they want to. the valves are what people love the kw's for; while it may still be good; they are not the same as the v1.
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the valving and springs (at least) are also different than what's found in the v1. I think people are glossing over this because they want to. the valves are what people love the kw's for; while it may still be good; they are not the same as the v1.
Is is the actual valves themselves? Or the valving?


Also, are those rebuildable? <--- SUPER important for me!
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there are rumors in the euro circles (won't spread specifics in case people run with it when it's not confirmed yet) that these are sporting some very nice internals.
something something 31 flavors it must be serious
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looks plastic get a used set of teins I am sure you can find them in the F/S forum
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These are the same suspension being sold for $1599 by some vendors on here.

Just few quick reviews from other forums.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476562
http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=816647

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coilovers + the roads youre going to be driving = ouch. teh gf will be less than amused.

like everyone else has said, get a set of springs and struts. my only complaint about my agx's is that adjusting the rears is kind of a pain in the butt. tokico's may or may not have a remote dial to make adjustment easier. (someone makes it but i cant remember who it is)
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Is is the actual valves themselves? Or the valving?


Also, are those rebuildable? <--- SUPER important for me!
i'm under the impression it's both (hence the different valving)
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These are the same suspension being sold for $1599 by some vendors on here.

Just few quick reviews from other forums.
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http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=816647

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I hate it when product manufacturers hint at stuff without saying it. What are they, Teins?
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I hate it when product manufacturers hint at stuff without saying it. What are they, Teins?
Looks like they are made by: Windflowers Racing Parts
check it out here: http://www.windflowers.com.tw/index.htm
http://windflowers.en.alibaba.com/pr....html#inSearch

They do look very familiar with STD's
http://www.std.com.tw/homepage.html

Apparently there has been a lot of damper manufacturing on the island, and a lot of businessmen have spun off their own shops. Even STD's website has a place where you could brand your own suspension with them.

When I hear that our NASIOC scca champ had 70k on a set of BC's I'm inclined to buy BC BR's. At least until MFG's and Resellers quite BSing about their product and list some real engineering specifications - Materials, Processes, Piston designs etc.....
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Look at the welding on the knuckle mounts.

1 weld line on the outside, nothing on the inside, a tack on top and bottom of the plate. No bracing.


When brought to their attention ~2 months ago, Sonic Tuning said they would update this design. It was nice to hear that, I'm hoping to check in with them soon and see if they've updated that.


Also, while you can be the manufacturer for another company, it may not necessarily mean your parts (or your support) rival that of the other company - Though I can say my dealings with Sonic Tuning were quite positive!

It seems like they are honestly working towards bringing a good product to our community, and from what I saw while I was in their shop - they have a similar repair policy as BC. Replace, don't rebuild, to get you back on the road. They also openly admit these are NOT supposed to be a direct competitor to the KW V3s, and these are more on the level of a KW V1 with more options for adjustment.



Flame on!
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I'm sure these coilovers are competitive with a lot of other good product, however, I would like more solid information on whats available. Sonic Tuning is making a step forward by saying their shaft material is SCM44 (SAE 4140).
Information is power, and we honestly need more information on suspension systems so we can make the best educated decision when it comes to buying suspension components. How can we as a community help empower ourselves with real information? An Excel comparison chart would be great, and I would invite/encourage the manufacturers to participate.
An example of empowering information would be:

Shaft size: 22mm
Shaft Material: SAE 1045
Cylinder Superfinished: Y/N
Shaft Superfinished: Y/N
Piston Diameter: 44mm
Stroke: 100mm
Bracket Material: Cast Steel
Spring Material: Sae9254 (Test Spec)
Nitrogen Pressure: 175psi
Salt Spray Test: Y/N (Spec)
ISO Certification: Y/N (Spec/Year)
Seal Material: Viton/Teflon coated

Service In US: Y/N
Replace Repair 0-12mo: Replace/Repair
After Service +12 mo.: Cost and Turnaround - $100/corner - 2 weeks.
Service Sales and Technical Service in the U.S.? Yes/No

These are just some examples of what I would like to see. Even if the manufacturers would post this on their website then it would help us all make an educated decision.

We do need solid information and not rumors or opinions.
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I'm sure these coilovers are competitive with a lot of other good product, however, I would like more solid information on whats available.
so you're sure they're competitive even though you don't have any solid information? then again, you think you can pay half the price and get all the performance.

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you started your post with an opinion...
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