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Old 08-10-2011, 01:51 AM   #2476
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To the guy that test drove it..... How is the CVT? Is it as good as a 5 speed? Are the paddle shifters any good?
Never understood how you can shift in a CVT. There are essentially no gears to begin with. I know the new Maxima has paddle shifters as well with it's CVT. If someone can explain to me how that's done please do. I know next to nothing with this type of transmission
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:33 AM   #2477
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Never understood how you can shift in a CVT. There are essentially no gears to begin with. I know the new Maxima has paddle shifters as well with it's CVT. If someone can explain to me how that's done please do. I know next to nothing with this type of transmission
The transmission has certain pre-define points that belt jumps to.
I've tried Outback CVT and when I tried to accelerate the trany is gutless and does not shift automatically down when you step on the gas pedal, you have to paddle shift lower manually.
I guess it works OK but I've never tried it as I didn't know how it works till after I test it. It is a matter of getting used to it.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:51 AM   #2478
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The CVT is 1,000,000 times better than the old 4EAT.

Faster, better mileage, and doesn't constantly hunt for gears.
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Old 08-10-2011, 03:37 AM   #2479
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The transmission has certain pre-define points that belt jumps to.
I've tried Outback CVT and when I tried to accelerate the trany is gutless and does not shift automatically down when you step on the gas pedal, you have to paddle shift lower manually.
I guess it works OK but I've never tried it as I didn't know how it works till after I test it. It is a matter of getting used to it.
Thanks for the info, I have a better understanding now.

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The CVT is 1,000,000 times better than the old 4EAT.

Faster, better mileage, and doesn't constantly hunt for gears.
I wouldn't doubt it. I absolutely hate the 4EAT. It's slow upshifting, the sport mode has a horrible delay. The only thing I hate about my car is the 4EAT.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:28 AM   #2480
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The CVT, in theory, is supposed to balance great fuel economy with ample power when the accelerator is punched. If you are driving around town like normal you rarely see the RPM go above 3k since you don't really need the power at that time. However, when you punch the throttle it surges the RPM to where the engine makes the most power and will pretty much stay there until you let off. The only time I use the paddles to shift in my wife's car, is when coming to a light--I downshift and use the engine braking to slow the car down.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:57 AM   #2481
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The transmission has certain pre-define points that belt jumps to.
I've tried Outback CVT and when I tried to accelerate the trany is gutless and does not shift automatically down when you step on the gas pedal, you have to paddle shift lower manually.
I guess it works OK but I've never tried it as I didn't know how it works till after I test it. It is a matter of getting used to it.
that is opposite of my experience in my parent's '10 outback. i stomp on the gas and the cvt "downshifts" quickly. the paddles work well but the cvt works so well on its own, i only use the paddles for engine braking going downhill. the cvt does some of its own engine braking but not enough on steeper descents, just enough to shut off the injectors to save gas.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:20 AM   #2482
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that is opposite of my experience in my parent's '10 outback. i stomp on the gas and the cvt "downshifts" quickly. the paddles work well but the cvt works so well on its own, i only use the paddles for engine braking going downhill. the cvt does some of its own engine braking but not enough on steeper descents, just enough to shut off the injectors to save gas.
Yes, this is my experience with my wife's Outback. If you really wanted to see the preset "gears" you have to shift to manual mode. I never do this since running it in drive always gives me the best if both world's and is responsive enough if you need to rush through a yellow light it get on the freeway.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:24 PM   #2483
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The WRX/STi will most likely have nothing to do with this as they are splitting the models off from the Impreza line
Just like the Outback has nothing to do with the Legacy since they've split those lines. Don't be fooled by marketing.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:27 PM   #2484
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I would like to ask about reliability of the impreza in the past. I think they are assembled in Japan, so should be a bit better quality, am I correct?

Going through the Outback forum I don't think Outback is well made.
Not considering steering wheel shake, that might be solved or not, they had issue with oil leak problem: TSB-OilLeak02-115-11 and other problems user complain about on outback forum.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:54 PM   #2485
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I would like to ask about reliability of the impreza in the past. I think they are assembled in Japan, so should be a bit better quality, am I correct?

Going through the Outback forum I don't think Outback is well made.
Not considering steering wheel shake, that might be solved or not, they had issue with oil leak problem: TSB-OilLeak02-115-11 and other problems user complain about on outback forum.
I think that the location where it is manufactured is a moot point. Look at all the Impreza STI that are made in Japan that have had ringland failures. I know that my wife's OB has provided 15k miles with no failures. My STI with less than 4k has more rattles than her's ever will.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:59 PM   #2486
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I would like to ask about reliability of the impreza in the past. I think they are assembled in Japan, so should be a bit better quality, am I correct?

Going through the Outback forum I don't think Outback is well made.
Not considering steering wheel shake, that might be solved or not, they had issue with oil leak problem: TSB-OilLeak02-115-11 and other problems user complain about on outback forum.
Don't know much about 08+ imprezas, but my 02 WRX has been a rock despite being drive incredibly hard. It has 155k on it, has been flooded and auto crossed and just about everything else you can think of and the engine has not had a single issue. I think for the most part, people are happy with the build quality on these cars, but they are more expensive to work on (or at least that has been the truth in the past) so they take a hit when maintenance does come up vs hondas and toyotas, which are cheaper to fix.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:05 PM   #2487
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I think that the location where it is manufactured is a moot point. Look at all the Impreza STI that are made in Japan that have had ringland failures. I know that my wife's OB has provided 15k miles with no failures. My STI with less than 4k has more rattles than her's ever will.
Yep. When you consider failures on cars in general it seems assembly quality is rarely an issue compared with components failing. Component quality is historically very good for Subaru. Whereas judging from the reported rattles, assembly is secondary.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:38 PM   #2488
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I think that the location where it is manufactured is a moot point. Look at all the Impreza STI that are made in Japan that have had ringland failures. I know that my wife's OB has provided 15k miles with no failures. My STI with less than 4k has more rattles than her's ever will.
I know I see this on here a lot, but could you show me the numbers that warrants the "ALL THE IMPREZA STI" statement? You make it sound like the majority of the STI's were built bad. I have had 2 STI's and didn't have an issue and our service department acknowledged the issue was out there, but not as bad as it is being potrayed online.

I haven't come across any STI in this area that has had that issue; and only 2 WRX's that had the bearing problem(not mine either w/60+K miles).

I agree there shouldn't have been an issue at all though.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:02 PM   #2489
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I have had 2 STI's and didn't have an issue and our service department acknowledged the issue was out there, but not as bad as it is being potrayed online.
Don't you get it yet??? A guy on the Internet said so and you QUESTION HIM??? Learn your place, "actual numbers" don't hold a candle to the voice of a thousand posts from the same person.
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Don't you get it yet??? A guy on the Internet said so and you QUESTION HIM??? Learn your place, "actual numbers" don't hold a candle to the voice of a thousand posts from the same person.

LOL. Right, but he/they still influence sales. We get people ALL the time questioning these "really bad" cars because it was said on this "authoritative" website that there is a problem. "Why should I by it?" ALL THE FRIGGIN TIME!!!!!
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:02 PM   #2491
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Yep. When you consider failures on cars in general it seems assembly quality is rarely an issue compared with components failing. Component quality is historically very good for Subaru. Whereas judging from the reported rattles, assembly is secondary.
My Tribeca had to have a tranny rebuild at 106,000 miles and then the engine replaced a month later at 107,000. I've had all sorts of weird dashboard rattles, CV Boot replacements, and will soon need to replace the belt tensioner but you know what though, I still love my Tribeca and will keep buying Subarus. Why, because they are versatile, safer than any other brand on the road, and perform very well and honestly Subaru corporate and the dealership I use have treated me exceptionally well over the years almost like family.
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I was thinking, after two separate occaisions within the last month, of having to dis-assemble parcels in a retail store parking-lot, because they would not fit in my Legacy otherwise...

That my next car might be a used Tribeca. Then you have to go and say that. ,

I was hoping that a used tribeca would allow me enough money left over for a nicer example of a manual-converted SVX, or to keep my SVX running, and a Mark III Supra, or an RX7 or something really fun on the side.

If I have to get a bigger vehicle for cargo, I am not going to do it without a concession of also having a nice sporty car.

But then again, my Legacy hasn't been much better than you describe your Tribeca... chewing up belts, frying the driver's side window motor, suspension giving up, and lots of those rattles... I am hoping the turbo doesn't spit little metal bits into the engine... stuff like that.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:31 PM   #2493
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More Canuck 2012 Impreza information:

http://www.auto123.com/en/news/car-r...w?artid=134328
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:46 PM   #2494
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I was thinking, after two separate occaisions within the last month, of having to dis-assemble parcels in a retail store parking-lot, because they would not fit in my Legacy otherwise...

That my next car might be a used Tribeca. Then you have to go and say that. ,

I was hoping that a used tribeca would allow me enough money left over for a nicer example of a manual-converted SVX, or to keep my SVX running, and a Mark III Supra, or an RX7 or something really fun on the side.

If I have to get a bigger vehicle for cargo, I am not going to do it without a concession of also having a nice sporty car.

But then again, my Legacy hasn't been much better than you describe your Tribeca... chewing up belts, frying the driver's side window motor, suspension giving up, and lots of those rattles... I am hoping the turbo doesn't spit little metal bits into the engine... stuff like that.
Yes but I did mention that I still love my Tribeca as well!
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Another teaser posting with pictures:

http://www.autonet.ca/autos/search/n...-18516496.html

Also, looks like this is an available BT option (according to one of the photos in the above):

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...rs/AVH-P3300BT
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Also, looks like this is an available BT option (according to one of the photos in the above):

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...rs/AVH-P3300BT
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My Tribeca had to have a tranny rebuild at 106,000 miles and then the engine replaced a month later at 107,000. I've had all sorts of weird dashboard rattles, CV Boot replacements, and will soon need to replace the belt tensioner but you know what though, I still love my Tribeca and will keep buying Subarus. Why, because they are versatile, safer than any other brand on the road, and perform very well and honestly Subaru corporate and the dealership I use have treated me exceptionally well over the years almost like family.
I'm planning on buying Subaru (want to experience AWD) but it makes me wonder why aren't those engines /trany more reliable. It seems to me older technology was simpler and better (in my case at least). I have two older Volvo's 25-year old each with 300K km or over and they are running like new.
Reading those kind of comments make me wonder if my new Subaru will last 100K mi. In addition with AWD I'll have to make sure my tires are in good shape :-/ I think with AWD tires need to be changed in pairs isn't it?
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I'm planning on buying Subaru (want to experience AWD) but it makes me wonder why aren't those engines /trany more reliable. It seems to me older technology was simpler and better (in my case at least). I have two older Volvo's 25-year old each with 300K km or over and they are running like new.
Reading those kind of comments make me wonder if my new Subaru will last 100K mi. In addition with AWD I'll have to make sure my tires are in good shape :-/ I think with AWD tires need to be changed in pairs isn't it?
Well for the most part these things are not problems, but every company has lemons. As I posted before, my 02 WRX engine has been a rock despite a lot of punishment. My dad's 05 Legacy, however, ate a valve at 105k, which shocked the dealer and the shop he took it to to drop the new engine in, and he never missed a service appt or oil change. Some times things fail, but for the most part, subies are just as reliable as any other Japanese brand. Hell, if you go to a toyota or honda board you will find the same stories of blown engines and trannies early in life, but that's just the way it is sometimes.
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