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Old 08-22-2011, 09:30 AM   #2726
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Oh boy, you're like one of those religious nuts. If they're not with you huh? Did I say you have problems or anyone who drives a manual haves problem with it? Did I say I prefer a automatic over a manual? The witch hunt is over buddy relax a bit.
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:54 AM   #2727
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Really, no instant torque is the problem you have when comparing it to the 5speed automatics? But I thought the complaint of torque on the automatics (or atleast the 2.5 automatics) was that they weren't responsive and or consistent. That's what I read from reviews and personally experience myself and you're saying the CVT is worse? hmmmmm. I guess I have to test drive first.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. In my wife's new Forester, her OBS, her '05 Forester, and my old '05 Legacy, the 4EAT with the 2.5 would have that instant-torque feeling right off the line to get you out into traffic, through an intersection, whatever. The CVT in the Legacy felt sluggish to us. I'll admit that it accelerated better once it got past 15 or 20 mph and for passing, but it really lacked that confidence-inspiring trait of being able to jump like a scalded cat when you wanted it to. Maybe it was because it was a brand-new car and hadn't been broken in/learned driving habits yet. Otherwise, I liked the CVT. I just prefer driving stick in my own daily driver.
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:51 PM   #2728
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The body side moldings significantly reduce the door dingage. After 3 years, both our cars have 2 or 3 door dings, and about 30 body side molding dings. I think the moldings look fine, and don't look out of place.



Get a trim level that gets you heated seats and heated windshield wiper elements. The others are dealer-options, and you can negotiate the price. I am highly jealous of my wife's remote start in her F-XT. She can start her car from inside, while I have to do the walk of shame in -30 C weather, to start mine.
From what I have read, the body side moldings (around the wheel wells and sides) come with the Sport-Premium and Sport-Limited trims. It states "body colored" for this and the roof-rails. Yet every picture I have seen (and previous years Outback "sports") the plastic pieces are grey/black, same with the roof rails?

Also still curious if the bolt pattern will be 5x100???
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:33 PM   #2729
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From what I have read, the body side moldings (around the wheel wells and sides) come with the Sport-Premium and Sport-Limited trims. It states "body colored" for this and the roof-rails. Yet every picture I have seen (and previous years Outback "sports") the plastic pieces are grey/black, same with the roof rails?

Also still curious if the bolt pattern will be 5x100???
My best guess is that they are 5x100, but I don't know if it has been confirmed anywhere.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:16 PM   #2730
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I found this guide that very clearly states the exterior colors with interior color combinations:

https://www.subaruofkeene.com/2012-subaru-impreza.htm

It's a shame I can't get that dark red with black interior, that would looks SOOO hot.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:38 PM   #2731
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is VIP pricing available for preorder?
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:39 PM   #2732
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is VIP pricing available for preorder?
VIP is available for pre-ordering. I just ordered a Sport Limited on Saturday with VIP.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:53 PM   #2733
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VIP is available for pre-ordering. I just ordered a Sport Limited on Saturday with VIP.
How much did you have to put down for preorder?
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:05 PM   #2734
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How much did you have to put down for preorder?
$500 bucks, that can be applied as a down payment once the vehicle comes in.

Supposed to be hearing shortly from SOA about that $500 incentive too. Probably going to go with the Trek bike, not sure about the warranty extension.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:06 PM   #2735
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CANADIAN pricing.
http://www.auto123.com/en/news/car-n...a?artid=134779
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Here then are the prices for the new 2012 Impreza :

The 4-door will be available in four trims : base ($19,995), Touring ($21,695), Sport ($23,895) and Limited ($25,895).

The 5-door will be delivered in the same four trims and the pricing will be as follows : base ($20,895), Touring ($22,595), Sport ($24,795) and Limited ($26 795).

Every Impreza will include a 5-speed manual transmission as standard equipment. The optional CVT autobox will carry a $1,300 premium.

So Limited 5-door CVT:
USA = 22095.00
Canadian = 28095.00

Though if I'm not mistaken Canadian Limited includes Moonroof + Nav and in USA this is 2K extra, am I correct?
If not 6K difference in price is too much, I'll be heading south.
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:23 PM   #2736
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My best guess is that they are 5x100, but I don't know if it has been confirmed anywhere.
I'd call this confirmation. Check the wheels.





And we know for a fact that the BP Outback has 5x100 hubs.

The wheels are the same, save paint color, so I would say that is a high confidence level that the Impreza still uses the same age-old 5x100 hubs, too.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:15 AM   #2737
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Default multifunction display

Is it possible to know more about the multifunction display?

is it standard? if not, on which trim is it?

and what does it show???

can we have some more pics beside this one?

http://picolio.auto123.com/art-image...?scale=484x363
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:22 AM   #2738
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Is it possible to know more about the multifunction display?

is it standard? if not, on which trim is it?

and what does it show???

can we have some more pics beside this one?

http://picolio.auto123.com/art-image...?scale=484x363
I think (?) that's only for Canadian models.

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Old 08-23-2011, 08:36 AM   #2739
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^ Seems like it...and in Japanese ones. Mind you, a "cool" nintendo-type animation risks being nothing more than a useless distraction after the initial hype is gone. I would still favour an OBD-II connected gaugefest...
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:01 AM   #2740
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So Limited 5-door CVT:
USA = 22095.00
Canadian = 28095.00

Though if I'm not mistaken Canadian Limited includes Moonroof + Nav and in USA this is 2K extra, am I correct?
If not 6K difference in price is too much, I'll be heading south.
Factor in the currency exchange (which I know the manufacturers don't like us doing), and we are definitely being chumped as usual.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:22 AM   #2741
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The extra Canadian consumer cost is to cover printing the manual in French
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:01 AM   #2742
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The extra Canadian consumer cost is to cover printing the manual in French

harharhar awesome!
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:09 AM   #2743
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harharhar awesome!
It would be funny if it wasn't true.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:23 AM   #2744
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It would be funny if it wasn't true.
The closest dealer (to Alberta) I as able to find that will sell to Canadians is Van Bortel Subaru, though they are charging $750/extra
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Canadian Export Surcharge
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enormous amount of work done by myself, and other dealership employees, behind the scenes in order to get a car
safely and smoothly out of the US and into your driveway. There are many people that assist me in making sure your
buying experience goes smoothly and that you're able to clear customs without issue. I will get your new Subaru
cleared for export through the US Customs Vehicle Export Office at the Lewiston Bridge in Buffalo.
Pricing
Due to the earthquake, and subsequent tsunami, in Japan this past March we will be experiencing an extreme
shortage of vehicle availability that will possibly last through August and into September. In order to keep from
having to furlough or layoff employees we have had to increase our pricing. We hope to keep this increase
temporary. Our pricing is still fixed and well below Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price, or MSRP. Other New
York dealers have reportedly gone to MSRP or over due to the same shortage. Pricing can be found on our website,
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says "click for quote" and you'll see the total vehicle cost. To that you simply add the Canadian Export Surcharge of
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New York State Fees
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:31 AM   #2745
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Does anyone know when invoice prices will be announced?
Do they "announce" invoices? That wouldn't be smart.

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At 3mpg, I'd break even in two years. Though I think the CVT would show more improvement than that. I get 30mpg in my Outback with one.

It's also great for driving. It instantly moves the RPMs to wherever they need to be. Much better driveability than a regualr auto, or even a manual where you have predefined RPM:speed:gear ratios.

And your sticker listed it at 29mpg. I have gotten 31.4 on a trip. Now, the sticker on the Impreza is going to say 37, so I am expecting 41-42 on trips.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:42 AM   #2746
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Do they "announce" invoices? That wouldn't be smart.
Probably close to the previous model invoice.
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:22 PM   #2747
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^ Seems like it...and in Japanese ones. Mind you, a "cool" nintendo-type animation risks being nothing more than a useless distraction after the initial hype is gone. I would still favour an OBD-II connected gaugefest...

Speaking of Nintendo, I sat in an STI at a dealer a few years back and thought it was so cool there was an RCA input in the center arm-rest so you could view a video source on the NAV screen, IE a Nintendo!!! ; )

Was that feature only on a certain model year?
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:17 PM   #2748
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IE a Nintendo!!! ; )
You get nostalgia points for referring to a video game console as "a Nintendo", nice one!

If I were to buy the new Impreza I would also head south. The Canadian price difference is just too much and unjustified.
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:26 PM   #2749
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As a Canadian, ill be planning to buy a 2012 Impreza Limited from the USA. does anyon have experienc with this? Are we still able to negotiate Price with US DEALERS or do they make you pay MSRP because they know we're saving as Canadians? How do you get the best deal as a Canadian buying from a US DEALER? I see that Subaru of Keene or Van Bortel would be the dealers I'd buy from.

Thanks for the advice!
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:49 PM   #2750
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My local dealer expects stock around mid-november.

They said I can do a factory order on exactly what I want and it would take 5-10 weeks. But I need to see the colors in person, sit in one, and oh yeah, DRIVE one first!
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