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Old 12-14-2011, 06:27 PM   #6051
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I tried finding a High Performance All-Season (not Ultra) that has better snow/ice performance and could only find Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S which costs more and preforms less. In Performance All-Season (not Ultra nor High), scores go even lower with far less options.

What did you find?
The Michelin that you cited is really not a bad tire. It will turn out to be rather loud as it wears and has less ability in the snow than the DWS tires - IMHO. These tires cost more than the DWS, are rated less (highway speed and load) the "protection" is extra. Sure that I would not "go there".
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:33 PM   #6052
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My dealer just email and said my car will be ready tomorrow!!! I don't know for sure yet if they've taken care of the Master Cylinder or if they're doing it tomorrow!
MBP Sport Premium CVT + homelink mirror.
Ordered 10/28 (Central Washington State)
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I'll put some pictures and thoughts ASAP!!!!
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:36 PM   #6053
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My car is expected on 1/5/12. I remember seeing the list of VIN numbers affected by the MC recall. Anyone have that still. I can't recall how many pages back it is. My VIN# JF1GPAL and I'm curious if it will be fixed at the factory like I assume.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:03 PM   #6054
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My car is expected on 1/5/12. I remember seeing the list of VIN numbers affected by the MC recall. Anyone have that still. I can't recall how many pages back it is. My VIN# JF1GPAL and I'm curious if it will be fixed at the factory like I assume.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/do...1V562-5734.pdf

Total Number of Vehicles Potentially Containing the Defect:
11,553 Impreza (except WRX/STI): built April 21, 2011 through November 15, 2011

VIN ranges:

2012 Impreza Sedan (except WRX/STI):
JF1GJAA6XCH002001 through JF1G3AB69CH010315

2012 Impreza Wagon (except WRX/STI):
JF1GPAA65CH200001 through JF1GPAC68CH209529

According to SOA, "It is not possible to determine an estimated percentage of the affected vehicles that may actually experience this condition. We have received 3 confirmed technical reports of the problem from U.S.A. and Canada. 109 field reports in addition to the 3 confirmed technical reports were received. The majority of the reports were received from the dealer network and distribution centers."

"The remedy plan calls for dealers to inspect, and if necessary, replace the master cylinder assembly with a new one that incorporates a proven cup seal design in place of the E-shaped cup seal design."

Subaru's internal identification code for this recall campaign: WVY-35.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:18 PM   #6055
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[quote=james1078;35881631]http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/do...1V562-5734.pdf

VIN ranges:

2012 Impreza Wagon (except WRX/STI):
JF1GPAA65CH200001 through JF1GPAC68CH209529


So if the VIN of my car is
JF1GPAL6XCG203253
why are they replacing the master cylinder?
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:23 PM   #6056
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Limited DGM CVT sedan
ordered Nov 8th

took delivery at dealer located in Northern NJ
paid 800 under invoice

good luck to you all waiting, looks like it all depends on how much allocation your dealer receives.

even with some adjustments, Audio system is the WORST i've ever heard music from. Even a Honda has a much better sounding system. it sounds like an AM radio thru a cardboard tube.
Congrats! My color, trim and transmission preference right there! Awesome price there, too.

I believe the sound system has a LOT more to do with the head unit than anything else. If you were to go aftermarket I've heard the the stock speakers are fine. Even if you get nicer speakers your sound will still suffer. The stock unit is just not meant to bump.

I kind of like the idea of the HD Radio with Tagging, but honestly I haven't willfully listened to the radio in almost 5 years, so I guess it's not that important.

I'm not sure what your priority is, but there are really nice aftermarket units out there that would still allow you to utilize your Bluetooth steering wheel controls and such.

Congrats again on the purchase! Pics are what we need now! Especially of DGM and sedans.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:33 PM   #6057
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I picked mine up last night.

I'm coming off an AWD VW Passat of 2001 vintage.

This car is tight on the bumps and feels competent, but the passat felt heavier as it is.

The stereo is a bit mean, but I'm not big on music and prefer podcasts. The iPod hook-up is great. Plug the sucker in and Bing. It's all there. The list might be a bit slow but I had a pioneer system and it was worse.

The fuel efficiency is good but I haven't done the highway thing because of break in period.

The passat was awesome in the snow and the sales dude said Subaru will blow me away. I'm waiting for snow!

Looked under the hood today. Are you serious? I can work on this car. I recognized everything. Nothing was buried. No flaps, plastic covers. All was in sight. Is this what Subaru does? Are older models like this?

First impressions are good. Quick off the line. Handles nicely. Mid range is a bit light but what could one expect from a 4 banger. Fit and finish seemed good for the price range. Nice product.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:41 PM   #6058
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http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/do...1V562-5734.pdf

VIN ranges:

2012 Impreza Wagon (except WRX/STI):
• JF1GPAA65CH200001 through JF1GPAC68CH209529


So if the VIN of my car is
JF1GPAL6XCG203253
why are they replacing the master cylinder?
It is the last 6 numbers at the end that count - all the letters and numbers before are just the equipment built into it along with the country of build
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:11 PM   #6059
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Is anyone else hearing a small rattle or something coming from the dash area of the the 5 door?
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:19 PM   #6060
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Is anyone else hearing a small rattle or something coming from the dash area of the the 5 door?
None coming out of mine (300 miles old).
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:42 PM   #6061
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Well, the long wait is finally over.

After arriving last week, it took a few days to take care of the paperwork and for the dealership to prep the car and replace the brake cylinder.

I got to sit in it before today but this is the first time I've ever bought a car without actually driving it first. After two previous Subarus and everything I read, I was pretty confident.

As it turns out, that confidence was well founded. I will post more thoughts after I've had more time behind the wheel, but my initial impressions were extremely positive and I'm a very happy Subaru owner (yet again).

It was raining out so things were cramped inside the dealership to take pics but I did my best. It's a start, anyway. (The first one is me bidding a fond farewell to my 2008 World Rally Blue Impreza, which is just outside.)









p.s. Kudos to whoever designed the software for the Canadian-spec display. That is a seriously informative and badass little display! Suck it, Nissan GT-R. (Just kidding, of course. I do really like it and think it's neat, though.) Well done, Subaru of Canada.
Did you pay MSRP or manage to get it for less?
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:50 PM   #6062
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ME! Ordered my CLL Sept. 22nd
Got the gift email
No delay email
No VIN email
My dealer does have 3 in transit (none are mine)
Thinking about calling SOA since the dealer knows nothing right now
...Got around to calling SOA today - can't decide if I'm glad I called:
They looked up my VON and said I have still not been assigned a VIN - what the what!? Has anybody who ordered this early had this issue as well? The guy I talked with (Jesse) told me certain trims/option packages are built at once, in general. Not sure if that's the reason though since other CLLs have been sold. So the question comes down to options...

Any CLLs with NAV and moonroof? I don't think there are any other special options that would make this take so long...
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:54 PM   #6063
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I test drove the 5 door CVT last night (still waiting on my order).

The centered steering does feel a bit off. I know some other folks on here mentioned it before. I'm not really a car connoisseur, so I'm not certain what the problem is, but it doesn't feel like I could let the wheel go and it would drive completely straight down the road. It felt great running through curves, however. I'm wondering if the issue is alignment or steering.
Mine does not have that issue. So, please make sure upon delivery that yours does not also.
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:37 PM   #6064
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Mine does not have that issue. So, please make sure upon delivery that yours does not also.
Thanks; I will be sure to try mine out first before I plunk down the remainder of my money!
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:42 PM   #6065
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Anyone finding an odd "Lurch" when going from reverse to drive in the CVT? i have to take it out of reverse, wait for a second or two, then accelerate foreword otherwise it lurches a bit.
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:50 PM   #6066
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Anyone finding an odd "Lurch" when going from reverse to drive in the CVT? i have to take it out of reverse, wait for a second or two, then accelerate foreword otherwise it lurches a bit.
Engaging from reverse to drive seems slow in this car. If you depress the gas pedal before it engages, it'll lurch forward when it actually engages. Is this what you're referring to?
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:53 PM   #6067
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Engaging from reverse to drive seems slow in this car. If you depress the gas pedal before it engages, it'll lurch forward when it actually engages. Is this what you're referring to?
Yup, thats whats going on. It's becoming less noticeable as i tend to expect it now, but still annoying haha
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:15 AM   #6068
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Yup, thats whats going on. It's becoming less noticeable as i tend to expect it now, but still annoying haha
When it engages either drive or reverse, you can feel the "bump". Don't give it gas until you feel the bump. I guess we need to get used to it being slow. I'll also try to see if going from P to D, P to R and D to R are also slow.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:27 AM   #6069
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yes. i've noticed this as well. guess i'll just be patient on it engaging from R to D, etc.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:32 AM   #6070
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The good news is I picked up my car the other day. The bad news is, they offered me the $500 coupon when I put a downpayment on the car back on 10/31/11, but when I went to sign the paperwork and finish up, everyone in the dearlership acted clueless when I asked about the $500 coupon. Anyone know where to go to get it? The dealer will not respond to my emails...
Subaru's generally pretty good at setting things right...

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Old 12-15-2011, 12:35 AM   #6071
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Engaging from reverse to drive seems slow in this car. If you depress the gas pedal before it engages, it'll lurch forward when it actually engages. Is this what you're referring to?
I definitely notice this.

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I picked mine up last night.

I'm coming off an AWD VW Passat of 2001 vintage.

This car is tight on the bumps and feels competent, but the passat felt heavier as it is.

The stereo is a bit mean, but I'm not big on music and prefer podcasts. The iPod hook-up is great. Plug the sucker in and Bing. It's all there. The list might be a bit slow but I had a pioneer system and it was worse.

The fuel efficiency is good but I haven't done the highway thing because of break in period.

The passat was awesome in the snow and the sales dude said Subaru will blow me away. I'm waiting for snow!

Looked under the hood today. Are you serious? I can work on this car. I recognized everything. Nothing was buried. No flaps, plastic covers. All was in sight. Is this what Subaru does? Are older models like this?

First impressions are good. Quick off the line. Handles nicely. Mid range is a bit light but what could one expect from a 4 banger. Fit and finish seemed good for the price range. Nice product.
Pretty spot on review. All of the important stuff to service the car is stacked up right in front of you once you open the hood.

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When it engages either drive or reverse, you can feel the "bump". Don't give it gas until you feel the bump. I guess we need to get used to it being slow. I'll also try to see if going from P to D, P to R and D to R are also slow.
Again, true. The car takes a while to get in gear.

----

So I've been driving this car around for about 10 days now. I've been mostly city driving and I've been averaging about 24 mpg according to the screen. Filled up today for 38 bucks (3.19 a gallon in MD) which is a bit refreshing; then again, this car has a smaller tank than my previous car. I really love how easy it is to get stuff in and out of the 5-door. The floor of the car is at a perfect height to get long objects like snowboards in and out (I'm still waiting on the snowboard racks to come in as part of my free accessories.)

The car will take a while to crank if you accidentally leave the heated seats on. :facepalm: Seems trivial, but don't drain the battery.

The suspension on this car is a real winner and probably the best attribute to it.

This weekend I'm taking a long drive out to western MD to go snowboarding (opening day!). I'll report back with mileage and hopefully some video footage.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:39 AM   #6072
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We just got our preordered 2012 impreza sport last Saturday. We absolutely love the car. But...

When the car arrived at the dealer last Wednesday they informed us that they would be replacing the brake systems master cylinder. When we test drove the car everything seemed great.

Well just 2 days later the brakes started acting up and we had a "brake" notification on the gauge cluster, popping up randomly. 4 days later the brakes are gone, completely shot, and I noticed we had lost pretty much all the brake fluid (my wife had been driving all day on about 5% brakes). So the car has 230 miles and has already had to be towed back to the dealer (AAA)!

My concern is that this is going back to the original problem that Subaru had when the cars first got to the port. However it could have been an installation error on my dealers service department (I put my money on error by Subaru service dept). I was wondering if anyone else has had problems with there brakes on the new 2012 impreza, even after the so called "problem" was supposed to be fixed with a new master cylinder?

I truly do like the car and all that it has to offer. I hope that all of you that have your new cars are not having the same problem with the brakes. Just curious I guess to see if I'm alone or if it has become a terrible common occurance. Thanks guys!!
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:48 AM   #6073
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Okay, so its been confirmed by two tire shops I went around my neighborhood that the DWS are in fact great tires but they are prone to having bulges and bubbles on them. I was dissuaded from using them due to really bad NYC potholes. If I was to drive outside of NYC however, its the choice no question.

What are your inputs to this? Any other tires you recommend?
I've mentioned them earlier in the thread, but Finnish-made Nokian WRG2 is a good alternative if you decide not to go with the DWS. They're not ultra high performance like one might want on an STI, but they're certainly rated to handle Impreza's speed capabilities. They offer above average driving year-round, IMHO, with excellent snow & rain capability, and they're the only all-seasons with the severe weather rating like snow tires have.

Here are the specs:
  • Speed rating H
  • Treadwear warranty 50000
  • UTQG treadwear 420
  • UTQG traction A
  • UTQG temperature A
They're a bit pricey & harder to find than most brands. You won't find them on tirerack.com to compare, but you can search the web for reviews/opinions. They're highly regarded.

Budget alternative: Hankook Optimo H727
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:49 AM   #6074
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We just got our preordered 2012 impreza sport last Saturday. We absolutely love the car. But...

When the car arrived at the dealer last Wednesday they informed us that they would be replacing the brake systems master cylinder. When we test drove the car everything seemed great.

Well just 2 days later the brakes started acting up and we had a "brake" notification on the gauge cluster, popping up randomly. 4 days later the brakes are gone, completely shot, and I noticed we had lost pretty much all the brake fluid (my wife had been driving all day on about 5% brakes). So the car has 230 miles and has already had to be towed back to the dealer (AAA)!

My concern is that this is going back to the original problem that Subaru had when the cars first got to the port. However it could have been an installation error on my dealers service department (I put my money on error by Subaru service dept). I was wondering if anyone else has had problems with there brakes on the new 2012 impreza, even after the so called "problem" was supposed to be fixed with a new master cylinder?

I truly do like the car and all that it has to offer. I hope that all of you that have your new cars are not having the same problem with the brakes. Just curious I guess to see if I'm alone or if it has become a terrible common occurance. Thanks guys!!
You didnt take it back immediately when you saw the brake warning light?
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:16 AM   #6075
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I definitely notice this.



Pretty spot on review. All of the important stuff to service the car is stacked up right in front of you once you open the hood.



Again, true. The car takes a while to get in gear.

----

So I've been driving this car around for about 10 days now. I've been mostly city driving and I've been averaging about 24 mpg according to the screen. Filled up today for 38 bucks (3.19 a gallon in MD) which is a bit refreshing; then again, this car has a smaller tank than my previous car. I really love how easy it is to get stuff in and out of the 5-door. The floor of the car is at a perfect height to get long objects like snowboards in and out (I'm still waiting on the snowboard racks to come in as part of my free accessories.)

The car will take a while to crank if you accidentally leave the heated seats on. :facepalm: Seems trivial, but don't drain the battery.

The suspension on this car is a real winner and probably the best attribute to it.

This weekend I'm taking a long drive out to western MD to go snowboarding (opening day!). I'll report back with mileage and hopefully some video footage.
Are you driving the manual or CVT?

Do the heated seats stay on when you turn the car off??
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