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Old 01-04-2012, 05:50 PM   #7476
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It is cold out, and it takes a little while to get heat out of the car, but it is winter, and the heat exiting the vents is no better nor worse than in my last car.

Yes, you will get more heat from a V8 Hummer than from a 2 liter four. That does not mean the fuel efficient 2 liter is unable to produce heat adequate to warm up the car.

Despite the frigid temp outside, I feel warmer than in my last car, because my heated seats rock! I highly recommend the all weather package. If you bought a limited, you might need to manually control what zones the heat is going to, because in my car setting it on vents/floor, vents, or floor all seem to work fine. In fact, I switched it to floor only during my longer trip yesterday and had to turn down both the fan and the temp because it was too warm.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:16 PM   #7477
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Just wanted to post some quick thoughts on my '12 Impreza Limited.

- Tires overinflated (not deflated during PDI)
- Big holes in front bumper for seemingly no reason, as the dealer decided to screw their own holes (ignoring my request to forgo the front plate)
- Rattles coming from lower windshield area (near wiper sensor)
- MPG is averaging a horrid 24-26MPG. My 3 hour freeway trip from Seattle to Portland was a TERRIBLE 25MPG. I'm convinced that there is something terribly wrong, as the cruise control was set at 65-75 pretty much the full way there. For comparison sake, my Audi A4 '08 gets about 24-26MPG with premium gas daily driving, 30+ on road trips. The car is rated 27/36, I'd be lucky to get 27 on the freeway.
- Navigation screen is resistive, not capacitive. Also, it does not include all of the functionality of the 4.3inch regular screen (maintenance, car settings, etc.). I regret getting navigation.
- Presetting on the navi unit could be more intuitive (try adding more then 6 if you can even add them at all)
- Still no word on my '$500 Love is Worth Waiting For' program
- While on the freeway driving steadily at speed, sometimes I can force it (by shifting up in D) to the fake sixth gear, netting a few more mpgs (discovered this after the oregon drive )
- Windshield wipers are the cheap old style, not the new flatblade style (other markets get the flatblade style)
- Trunk has no handle for pulling down, and the trunk springs are terrible.
- 'Manual Mode' does not work as it should. Gears are still variable while in M mode.
- Car horn sounds even worse than my old 02' S2000, downright embarrassing.
- Shifter should of been finished with the black material surrounding the head unit, not that nasty plastic silver thing (same with the glovebox thing)

Some positives...
- Car looks great from exterior. No joke, on more then one occasion, non-car enthusiast friends have mistaked it for a lexus (not something I'm proud of).
- Doors open to setting perfectly (My B7 A4 cannot get this right)
- Sound system is good
- CVT more responsive then the reports I've seen. I'm actually happy with it (I drive a manual nearly everyday).

I still haven't reached 1000 miles yet, so no engine performance to report.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #7478
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haha Yeah, pretty much. I didn't want to keep throwing up pics of my 2011 "issues", even if only a few are curious.

Thanks for the reply!
Oh, thought it was a jab at me being a new Dec '11 member.

Does anybody have a cruising RPM at 80 MPH for the Impreza? People are saying 4th and 5th is long, but people are also complaining of low MPG when on the highways. I do ~2000 RPM in 4th at 40 MPH but haven't had the chance to drive on highways for 5th gear. I hope I can get 30 MPG on the highway doing 70-80 MPH.

I'm getting 19.8 MPG doing 100% city driving. Most of the time, the engine isn't even fully warmed up before I shut her down. Still, a huge improvement over the X5. I hope after break-in, I get even better MPG.

And I love my horn. It is so fruity! A honk doesn't say, "get out of the way," like it did on the X5 but it is rather a suggestion for other drivers.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:36 PM   #7479
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I just got my car insurance info today. I just gave them my VIN and mine came up as an Impreza Limited AWD, so that sounds fine to me. My insurance, full coverage, is right at $60/mo.
To say $60/month doesn't really help as we have no idea what you are getting for your money. Do you have a crazy high deductible? Do you have full coverage? Max on everything? Do you have roadside? Car rental? Uninsured/underinsured coverage?
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:38 PM   #7480
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I haven't seen a built-in nav system yet that would cause me to order one and stop using my phone. There may be one that is totally killer; I just haven't seen it yet.

I really like the features of MotionX GPS on my mobile devices.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #7481
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To say $60/month doesn't really help as we have no idea what you are getting for your money. Do you have a crazy high deductible? Do you have full coverage? Max on everything? Do you have roadside? Car rental? Uninsured/underinsured coverage?
It likewise doesn't help when posters don't have their location set.

Location is useful for determining car delivery patterns, insurance costs, fuel formulations, heater performance, etc.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:43 PM   #7482
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Hi, this is my first time posting. So, I'm getting ready to head home from work today and discover that someone hit my side mirror while parking at the park and ride. There's a bit of a round scuff now, and with the exception of one small scratch, it doesnt seem to be very deep, it just looks matte whereas the rest is shiny. Anyone have any advice?
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:45 PM   #7483
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Hi, this is my first time posting. So, I'm getting ready to head home from work today and discover that someone hit my side mirror while parking at the park and ride. There's a bit of a round scuff now, and with the exception of one small scratch, it doesnt seem to be very deep, it just looks matte whereas the rest is shiny. Anyone have any advice?
If your insurance is nice to you then I might get a quote on having it repaired, otherwise get a quote for having it repaired out-of-pocket. I'm assuming you have a decent deductible.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:52 PM   #7484
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Hi, this is my first time posting. So, I'm getting ready to head home from work today and discover that someone hit my side mirror while parking at the park and ride. There's a bit of a round scuff now, and with the exception of one small scratch, it doesnt seem to be very deep, it just looks matte whereas the rest is shiny. Anyone have any advice?
That sucks!

I like to put that clear bra film on the side mirrors for just that reason.

Also the bumping faces of the front and rear bumpers, the edges of doors so when passengers swing them open they don't nick (as easily), and under the door handles where fingernails can chew up the area fairly quickly.
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For your ding I would try Subaru touch-up lacquer, wait a few days then build up some more, then use a soft polishing block to level out the edges. Then polish well, then wax.

When everything's had a week or more to gas out, put a little strip of clear bra material at the edges/faces that stick out the most.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:55 PM   #7485
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- Tires overinflated (not deflated during PDI)
my tires look fine, haven't measured the PSI
- Big holes in front bumper for seemingly no reason, as the dealer decided to screw their own holes (ignoring my request to forgo the front plate)
i can care less, it's not a $40K+ car
- Rattles coming from lower windshield area (near wiper sensor)
don't have this issue
- MPG is averaging a horrid 24-26MPG. My 3 hour freeway trip from Seattle to Portland was a TERRIBLE 25MPG. I'm convinced that there is something terribly wrong, as the cruise control was set at 65-75 pretty much the full way there. For comparison sake, my Audi A4 '08 gets about 24-26MPG with premium gas daily driving, 30+ on road trips. The car is rated 27/36, I'd be lucky to get 27 on the freeway.
had same MPG problem, but like others have said, the MPG gets better as you drive more. Mine has gone up from low 20's to high 20's as i reached 500 miles (3rd tank of gas).
- Navigation screen is resistive, not capacitive. Also, it does not include all of the functionality of the 4.3inch regular screen (maintenance, car settings, etc.). I regret getting navigation.
briefly played with the Nav on a dealer demo Limited and it did not impress me or meet Nav features of 2012 model cars, therefor i did not get NAV.
- Presetting on the navi unit could be more intuitive (try adding more then 6 if you can even add them at all)
- Still no word on my '$500 Love is Worth Waiting For' program
- While on the freeway driving steadily at speed, sometimes I can force it (by shifting up in D) to the fake sixth gear, netting a few more mpgs (discovered this after the oregon drive )
- Windshield wipers are the cheap old style, not the new flatblade style (other markets get the flatblade style)
i find the wipers clear a larger area than my previous cars.
- Trunk has no handle for pulling down, and the trunk springs are terrible.
i agree. & there should be a trunk release button on the trunk. i guess a smoother hinge system would bring costs up.
- 'Manual Mode' does not work as it should. Gears are still variable while in M mode.
i prefer a "sport" mode rather than manual mode
- Car horn sounds even worse than my old 02' S2000, downright embarrassing.
a horn is a horn
- Shifter should of been finished with the black material surrounding the head unit, not that nasty plastic silver thing (same with the glovebox thing)

Some positives...
- Car looks great from exterior. No joke, on more then one occasion, non-car enthusiast friends have mistaked it for a lexus (not something I'm proud of).
- Doors open to setting perfectly (My B7 A4 cannot get this right)
- Sound system is good
THIS IS MY #1 ISSUE with the car, horrible sound quality.
- CVT more responsive then the reports I've seen. I'm actually happy with it (I drive a manual nearly everyday).
taking 2 seconds to shift is annoying
I still haven't reached 1000 miles yet, so no engine performance to report.[/quote]
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:04 PM   #7486
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Bimmer, I think that all of the negatives that you have expressed, here, and earlier are best expressed by your own comment, above.

i can care less, it's not a $40K+ car

Everything is relative - no dig on you...
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:10 PM   #7487
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Just wanted to post some quick thoughts on my '12 Impreza Limited.

- Windshield wipers are the cheap old style, not the new flatblade style (other markets get the flatblade style)
Speaking of wipers, has anyone installed winter blades yet (Subie, or aftermarket)?

The existing blades don't seem to be an even inch length (something like 25.5" and 15.75"). Would 25 and 16 be a good guess for aftermarket?
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #7488
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Bimmer, I think that all of the negatives that you have expressed, here, and earlier are best expressed by your own comment, above.

i can care less, it's not a $40K+ car

Everything is relative - no dig on you...
$40K+ car or not, cars are expected to be competitive to other models within their category and therefor there are certain features that are expected as a standard feature or at least reasonably priced option.

if only the Mazda3 got AWD and got rid of the ugly smiley grille, it would be near perfectection (and its still made in Japan too)

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Old 01-04-2012, 08:29 PM   #7489
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Hi, this is my first time posting. So, I'm getting ready to head home from work today and discover that someone hit my side mirror while parking at the park and ride. There's a bit of a round scuff now, and with the exception of one small scratch, it doesnt seem to be very deep, it just looks matte whereas the rest is shiny. Anyone have any advice?
You can try some light polishing compound or paint cleaner to remove the scuff marks. Then try applying some wax to buff it up. Otherwise, you should just replace the mirror.

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Old 01-04-2012, 08:32 PM   #7490
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$40K+ car or not, cars are expected to be competitive to other models within their category and therefor there are certain features that are expected as a standard feature or at least reasonably priced option.

if only the Mazda3 got AWD and got rid of the ugly smiley grille, it would be near perfectection (and its still made in Japan too)
I kind of agree. The best car that I have ever owned was a 1976 Mazda RX-4. To me it was a cheap mans Mercedes Roadster. Very good car; however, tended to like gas and oil. Used and abused it in Europe, New York, and Oklahoma for about 12 years. All for about $4,500 back then (List was >$6,000).
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:37 PM   #7491
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The wipers are 400mm and 650mm which are typically sold as 16" and 26", respectively. I haven't bought replacement wipers yet, but I believe those are your correct replacement sizes.

http://www.piaa.com/WiperBlades/si-tech.html

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Old 01-04-2012, 08:44 PM   #7492
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I just bought the electronic service manual off a posting on Ebay. Search for "2012 Subaru Impreza Service Manual $16.

Some points for recent questions:
There are 55 items that are part of the Pre-Delivery Inspection according to the service manual.

I have finally identified the position of both the hi and low tone horns. The front grille has to come off and the mud flap has to get folded back in order to replace both.

In order to tap off the parking light wire to power auxiliary lights, the front wheels need to be turned all the way to the right so that you can pull back the mud cover in the front fender (driver's side). Once it is pulled back then you can twist off the parking light from the headlight assembly.

I think it's well worth the $16 for the large PDF. Just print out the pages that you really need to save a tree.

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Old 01-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #7493
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Just wanted to post some quick thoughts on my '12 Impreza Limited.

- Tires overinflated (not deflated during PDI)
- Big holes in front bumper for seemingly no reason, as the dealer decided to screw their own holes (ignoring my request to forgo the front plate)
- Rattles coming from lower windshield area (near wiper sensor)
- MPG is averaging a horrid 24-26MPG. My 3 hour freeway trip from Seattle to Portland was a TERRIBLE 25MPG. I'm convinced that there is something terribly wrong, as the cruise control was set at 65-75 pretty much the full way there. For comparison sake, my Audi A4 '08 gets about 24-26MPG with premium gas daily driving, 30+ on road trips. The car is rated 27/36, I'd be lucky to get 27 on the freeway.
- Navigation screen is resistive, not capacitive. Also, it does not include all of the functionality of the 4.3inch regular screen (maintenance, car settings, etc.). I regret getting navigation.
- Presetting on the navi unit could be more intuitive (try adding more then 6 if you can even add them at all)
- Still no word on my '$500 Love is Worth Waiting For' program
- While on the freeway driving steadily at speed, sometimes I can force it (by shifting up in D) to the fake sixth gear, netting a few more mpgs (discovered this after the oregon drive )
- Windshield wipers are the cheap old style, not the new flatblade style (other markets get the flatblade style)
- Trunk has no handle for pulling down, and the trunk springs are terrible.
- 'Manual Mode' does not work as it should. Gears are still variable while in M mode.
- Car horn sounds even worse than my old 02' S2000, downright embarrassing.
- Shifter should of been finished with the black material surrounding the head unit, not that nasty plastic silver thing (same with the glovebox thing)

Some positives...
- Car looks great from exterior. No joke, on more then one occasion, non-car enthusiast friends have mistaked it for a lexus (not something I'm proud of).
- Doors open to setting perfectly (My B7 A4 cannot get this right)
- Sound system is good
- CVT more responsive then the reports I've seen. I'm actually happy with it (I drive a manual nearly everyday).

I still haven't reached 1000 miles yet, so no engine performance to report.
Setting your cruise control during break in? Tisk tisk!
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #7494
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Regarding the heater, if the car uses less gas due to being more efficient and less powerful than the previous car, it's possible that there's less waste heat being generated by the engine.
I don't profess to be an expert, I'm just offering a theory.

You are exactly right. When I was acceleration testing, the air would get a LOT hotter after spending time at full throttle.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:48 PM   #7495
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Thank you to the few that have already responded to some of my questions below. Below are some updates and clarifications. Keep the responses coming!

1) iPod: So initial reports are that iPod responsiveness is pretty good. Can anyone comment on the ability to change albums while driving?

2) Auto headlights: I totally understand that I can still use the headlights manually, and I often end up doing that on highway trips with lots of underpasses. The problem is that the Outback has the gauges backlit 100% of the time, so other than the small, green 'headlights on' indicator, it is too easy to forget to turn on your headlights. (That's why you see so many dumb luxury car drivers with their headlights off at night -- because their electroluminescent gauges are lit even with the headlights off.) I really like the Auto setting and want to know if Subaru improved its functionality in the Impreza. Nothing else.

3) OK, we've confirmed the door ajar indicator does not show which door. This is a downgrade, but not a deal-breaker.

4) Bluetooth: Still hoping for more feedback on this....

5) Garmin nav: Just to be clear, when I said "cubby", I'm referring to the small opening below the climate controls. Someone mentioned in a reply that they didn't realize there was a DC plug there, but it's clearly obvious in all photos there is, so I'm thinking this got confused with the armrest storage or something. Anyway, I'm really interested in hearing experiences of users who have mounted their navs there and if the traffic antenna fits. I'm not interested in any setup that leaves exposed wires nor do I want to pay $1000 for the nav upgrade which also requires $1000 moonroof.

6) Trip computer selector placement: I already mentioned this is in the same horrible place in the Impreza. It wasn't a question, just a complaint.

Thanks again all!
Regarding your question to number 5:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...4#post36030324
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:49 PM   #7496
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I think the way some other manufacturers are going with high compression cylinders and direct injection, they might be somewhat more efficient. Though there may be a down side to those slightly more efficient engines that hasn't been realized yet.
The direct-injection audi 2.0 engine suffers from carbon/oil caked intake valve stems. You can find some quite nice pics of this on the web. Many have spent $100's on 'intake cleaning'...

OTOH, having a 10:1 compression turbo engine was neat.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:54 PM   #7497
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For comparison sake, my Audi A4 '08 gets about 24-26MPG with premium gas daily driving, 30+ on road trips.
I hope you are aware of the a4 cam follower failures. If you are not, please do some research!

I got 28 mpg summer w/a4, 26.5 in the cold. I'm already getting 30 mpg in my 1000 mile CVT, and it's regular. Loving this car, not missing the a4 at all.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:59 PM   #7498
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I ordered the 1st week of Oct and received my Sport Limited, Camellia Red Pearl on Dec 15. No options. Accessories I added were all-weather mats, rear spoiler and bumper protector. I only received the gift email and chose $500 in accessories. Haven't cashed in yet.

Tip: if you are ordering, be sure to include all accessories with your order. It's cheaper to order them and have them installed at the port than to order later and having dealer install.

I waited a bit to give my impression as I was pretty giddy about the car at first and wanted to be a little more objective. Sorry it's so long, hopefully it will be helpful to those considering the Impreza.

I tend to buy new cars and drive them for 10+ years/200,000 miles. I've owned a Pontiac Grand Prix, Grand Am, than a Vibe and now the Impreza. I mention that to give my comments some perspective.

My biggest considerations:
  • Safety (kids will be driving soon).
  • Looks (I'm not *that* old)
  • Comfort (leather!)
  • 5 door hatch (room for hockey bags & luggage)
  • Cold weather package (butt warmer)
  • AWD (I live in Michigan)
  • 30+ MPG (I drive 100 miles to/from work daily)
  • Price ($20,000-$25,000)
I test drove the Elantra, Sonata, Mazda3, Rouge, 2011 OBS & Focus. But, given the conditions above, the Impreza was really the best (only?) option.

So I've got 950 miles on it. What do I think?

The GREAT:
* The suspension is incredible. When I drove the Mazda3, that's what I liked best about it. I wasn't expecting anything close with the Impreza, but it's that good. Very sporty, no roll.
* Acceleration is much better than I expected. It's very responsive. I have complete faith that this car can jump into traffic from 0-30 or change lanes from 60-80. Paddle shifters help somewhat too.
* I thought it would take quite a while to get used to the CVT, but no, it feels pretty natural. I gotta believe 50% of cars will be CVT in 3-5 years. Subaru has done a nice engineering job here.
* Looks way better in person than photos. Red is nice & dark like I was hoping. Rocker panels do help and the rear spoiler is a must. Looks good from every angle. Sport Limited rims are sa-weet. I am planning to replace the standard grill with the sport mesh grill - love the look of those. Good use of a big chunk of my $500.
* Love the automatic climate control. I was surprised by this. It stays off until it's warm enough to be useful (hate blowing cold air around). I don't fuss with it at all. I leave for work at 6:30AM in 19F weather and the car warms up fine and stays there. I never tinker with it - which is not like me.
* Back seat is way roomier than I expected.
* The front seats are amazingly comfortable. I didn't notice this until I spent an hour in the driver seat. Padding everywhere I want/need it. Most seats get uncomfortable after 30-40 minutes, these get better
*
MP3s play off USB drive. Very cool, easy, cheap way to listen to my music & audio books.
* Turning radius is pretty impressive - and useful.
* Visibility really helps with safety. I thought the little window near the mirrors were kinda silly, but they make a big difference. Rear visibility is great as well.

The Good/OK:
* Steering is fine. Point the car and it goes there. Quite responsive. I didn't like the steering on the 11 OBS. This is a big improvement. My steering wheel is straight - always has been. Dead on.
* Comfort. The leather is well done. Adjustable headrests are great. Soft touch materials are terrific. For it's class, this is a great car.
* Storage is all I could have hoped for. Two large hockey bags are no challenge.
* Bluetooth is great. I haven't used it before, but now I won't buy a car without it. Plays music fine and works just like I want it to for phone calls. I have a Droid X2.
* Screen saver option on the radio is fun. I put the kids' hockey team logo on there and I'm the coolest dad around now. Not sure why it's so small though. Can't find a way to make it bigger. Anyone know the actual screen resolution of the 4.3" non-touch display? Couldn't find much info in the manual.

Neutral:
* Heat is fine to me. We'll see when it gets really cold, but seems to get warm enough.
* Seat heater buttons are in an awkward spot. I'm 6'0, 200lbs but can easily reach the buttons, so not as big a problem for me as it seems to be for others - just awkward is all. Not a smart spot for them.
* Visors are a non-issue to me. They don't look cheap, but I guess I've never seen an elegant visor so, whatever.
* Tires were set to 32psi by dealer. Kudos to Thelen in Bay City, MI.
* Sound sucked at first. I wrote about it in another post, but it did seem to get better after turning off SRS and then waiting a week or two. Now it's easily OK, even good depending on the source (HD stations sound pretty darn good). Doesn't get all that loud though.

Bad (nothing major):
* Not as quiet inside as I was hoping. May be the tires. The fans do blow LOUD. Maybe someone will find a fix to quiet this down?
* I actually love the white gauge cluster - helps me to see - but at night, everything lights up red. I'm red colorblind. Now, I can still see everything, it's just not as vivid as it is to most people. Dawn/dusk can be challenging, but I can always see the dial, so I'm OK. Nighttime is fine - it's dark enough I can see the red clearly. Don't ask how I deal with stoplights
* Rear view mirror is cheap looking. Very, very minor, but I did buy the top-of-the-line model. I should have gotten the homelink/compass mirror - maybe I still will.
* Fog lights. Best I can say about them is that they are pretty.
* Horn. Goofy. How am I supposed to let someone know I'm pissed off?!
* Most head unit controls are blocked out while driving. Dumb. Should be configurable.
* No temp gauge. I'd like to know how warm the engine is at any given time. Idiot light is useless. Minor, but annoying.

Waiting:
* Not much snow in Michigan (yet). With the little we did get, the car handled great. Had to turn off traction control in the parking lot so I could have fun - darn computer kept me from sliding! We'll see what happens when it really snows.
* Haven't seen condensation in my head lights yet. I'll keep an eye out, but it sounds like it's generally taking care of itself. I've been through the car wash twice and in plenty of rain, so it seems like I'd have some if it was an issue.
* Sounds like tires might suck. But on the bright side, they don't wear well either so it'll be a short-lived issue.
* Getting 28.5mpg. Driving 25% city & 75% 55mph roads. No cruise yet though, which I think will help. We'll see. I think driving in the summer, at 55mph w/ cruise will give me pretty good mpg.
* I haven't found much of a use for the paddle shifters yet. Helps with slowing if I'm too lazy to use the brake. Does help to get the RPMs up there if I need it, but I've been trying to stay under 4000RPMs. I'll be playing around with the shifters a bit more real soon now...

Will try to get a picture posted soon. Overall, I'm thrilled with my choice.
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That frost is only because it is cold out and because there is still water vapor in your headlights. Headlights are designed to have some vents built in so the heat doesn't get too hot in the housing; however, water does get into those vents at times. Turning on the lights to allow for the water to evaporate will get rid of the moisture and should keep it out as winter is dry.

My parent's X5 diesel had this same problem when we brought it home. Their X6 also has the same problem on humid days. Just turn on the lights and the water will go away.
Not true. Maybe the vent part is but I always leave my lights on even in the daytime & that has not dried out the inside of the headlights. Mine is minor compared to some, but leaving the lights on will not resolve the issue.

Also, spoke with dealer. They're looking at my lights when I get my splash guards installed Friday. He asked around and 2 others that have taken delivery from our dealership have similar issue. I'll keep you posted.
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