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Old 04-18-2012, 11:08 AM   #11226
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I have not looked into it yet, but thought the same thing-- it would be neet to see this lifted

... how does one get an impreza lifted? It wouldn't void any warranty would it?
It would void your warranty, and buying the parts to do an OEM lift is likely to cost more than just trading in the car for a Crosstrek. Preusming you could do it in the first place.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:40 AM   #11227
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I got my oil filters at the dealer.
I changed all my fluids out with Amsoil and havent looked back. As for oil- any 0w20 synthetic will do. I prefer Amsoil.
79tour: how much oil did it take/you put in? Where did that come up on the dipstick?

Just wondering if i/we will be lucky and just use 5qts for convenience sake or if it will take 5.5 or...

(if I recall, most cars I've changed oil on take a little less than spec to get to the high mark on the dipstick)
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #11228
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No, it feels darn near the same as the previous transmissions (somewhat rubbery and not very quick). Due to tall gearing in 4 and 5th, it isn't very lively either unless you kick it down to 3rd. I don't think anyone would ever confuse the Subaru 5 speed for a German transmission or anything like that.
Define rubbery.

i drove one before ordering and i thought it felt similar to our jetta 2.5 manual. I might do a short shifter in the future as long as it won't void warranty
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:44 PM   #11229
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It would void your warranty, and buying the parts to do an OEM lift is likely to cost more than just trading in the car for a Crosstrek. Preusming you could do it in the first place.
It would not void the warranty (technically).

SOA could deny warranty repair on any item related to your changes -- so if the axles go out or the transmission or any suspension related parts (even those you don't touch) fail they could claim that it was the fault of your suspension modifications and deny warranty claims on those parts.

Look at the WRX forums and the debate over making changes to the engine before the warranty expires -- if your engine blows after you upgrade your turbo etc good luck having SOA pick up the tab for a new engine under your warranty -- they are going to blame your messing with the engine on the failure.

However, if your power window motor fails, that would still be covered. Anything not directly or somewhat directly related to the suspension would be ok -- but keep in mind the drivetrain has some of the most expensive parts to mess with because it includes suspension, transmission, drivetrain components, your AWD system...

If you lift the vehicle and it rolls over and kills you, your family won't have much luck suing Subaru -- as I wrote before you can bet that Subaru fine tuned the suspension on the XV to prevent this from happening -- and you would need access to some pretty expensive testing equipment (and a crash test or two) to verify that your modifications aren't making the vehicle unstable.

So there is that reason to just buy the XV, as well.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:56 PM   #11230
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It would not void the warranty (technically).
Well yeah, I wasn't trying to say it voids the ENTIRE warranty, it just voids the warranty on anything drive train or suspension related (since if you pull into the service department with a blown rear end riding on a 3 inch lift, they would just claim "the car wasn't meant to handle that").

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Old 04-18-2012, 01:04 PM   #11231
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Define rubbery.

i drove one before ordering and i thought it felt similar to our jetta 2.5 manual. I might do a short shifter in the future as long as it won't void warranty
Oddly enough I had a Jetta 2.5 as well. I think the Jetta transmission felt much more direct, easy to shift, and the clutch feel was much smoother compared to the 5 speed Impreza I checked out.

When I say rubbery I mean the shifting on the Impreza felt like there was more slop in the shift gates, had harder to detect gear engagement, and the clutch didn't feel nearly as well sorted. I didn't feel like I could bang through the gears with the Impreza, everything felt so mushy.

Also after driving aorund that Jetta 2.5 I had for a while, the lack of power in the Impreza stinks

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Old 04-18-2012, 01:13 PM   #11232
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If anyone hears when the crosstrek is available please give us a post.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:17 PM   #11233
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wow. i'd be frustrated too. from the picture it looks like it's a hole. i agree with the other post above. maybe some touch up paint?

then again, i've never had success using touch up paint. it seems whenever i've used it, it makes things often look worse. almost look like my car developed acne or something...
I think it's the camera that makes it look like a hole. It's just black plastic underneath. I'll touch it up at some point.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:23 PM   #11234
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Rather than complain about the ding in the molding be happy that your door wasn't dinged and isn't in danger of rusting -- isn't that why you installed the molding (well that's why I did it...)
No. I won't be happy that something I purchased for looks AND protection isn't durable. It's DESIGNED to fill that role for pete's sake.

Yes, it protected my door sheet metal. Great. Now I have to obtain paint, attempt a fix, and try not to eff it up.

And, I wasn't complaining so much as responding to another poster inquiring about door side moldings!

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Old 04-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #11235
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I'm interested to see how the Mazda CX-5 and the CrossTrek compare. My wife will want to replace her 2007 CR-V at some point and really loves my Imp.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:53 PM   #11236
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We will be doing that comparison as well, but make nothing of our decision. My wife can make a decision on color or cup holders or any number of things I would never care about. She already called the Mazda ugly so I know where she is leaning. We walked on the impreza a month or so ago simply because they did not have a tow hitch. She just wants it for the bicycle rack. I am hoping they will have a hitch for the crosstrek. They have the hitch on the European model.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:15 PM   #11237
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It takes a little over 5 quarts. Mine has just a smidge less than 5.5.
The dipstick is level with the top hole (full mark).
The rear diff is super duper easy and holds around 2/3's of a quart. I didn't measure I just squeezed the quart bottle till gear oil came out of the fill hole.
The transmission (5mt) holds around 3.5 +/- quarts. The only tricky part is rigging a long hose onto a funnel to fill it.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:47 PM   #11238
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It takes a little over 5 quarts. Mine has just a smidge less than 5.5.
The dipstick is level with the top hole (full mark).
The rear diff is super duper easy and holds around 2/3's of a quart. I didn't measure I just squeezed the quart bottle till gear oil came out of the fill hole.
The transmission (5mt) holds around 3.5 +/- quarts. The only tricky part is rigging a long hose onto a funnel to fill it.
Did you use Amsoil and what grade did you use in each place?
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:27 PM   #11239
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It takes a little over 5 quarts. Mine has just a smidge less than 5.5.
The dipstick is level with the top hole (full mark).
The rear diff is super duper easy and holds around 2/3's of a quart. I didn't measure I just squeezed the quart bottle till gear oil came out of the fill hole.
The transmission (5mt) holds around 3.5 +/- quarts. The only tricky part is rigging a long hose onto a funnel to fill it.
thanks for the info. i may try 5 qts and see how it goes. (this should then get me between the two marks which is convenient if one buys the 5 containers of oil). actually, i'll know better before my first change. i'm monitoring any oil consumption right now with the factory oil to see if i'm burning any. (my car arrived filled at a high mark, or even a mm or two above. based on your info, 5 qts is probably fine as long as the car isn't consuming any significant oil between changes.

(i don't want to start a debate here, but my friend who i trust for his auto acumen told me once that really, most cars would work fine with 2/3-3/4 of the stated capacity...but the higher amounts are insurance against neglect, forgefulness or if the car burns appreciable oil.)
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:33 PM   #11240
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We will be doing that comparison as well, but make nothing of our decision. My wife can make a decision on color or cup holders or any number of things I would never care about. She already called the Mazda ugly so I know where she is leaning. We walked on the impreza a month or so ago simply because they did not have a tow hitch. She just wants it for the bicycle rack. I am hoping they will have a hitch for the crosstrek. They have the hitch on the European model.
LOL: i can totally associate. when were looking for my impreza (this is primarily my car), my wife didn't really care about the differences between how the cars drove (that was impt to me) but noticed whether or not the rear seat had cupholders in the center for our children. she really liked the Hynundai Elantra we test drove for its great interior feature set. (beyond it's horrible handling and steering feel, it killed my bad back after only the 5-10 min test drive so it was ruled out immediately)

aside: she drives a '07 prius. and when it comes time for us to replace that for her (she puts in 20k a year so that is coming up faster than i would like), i'll try to keep my mouth shut on how well or poorly the cars handle with respect to one another as long as it's primarily her car! )

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Old 04-18-2012, 04:35 PM   #11241
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<<rant on>> For years she has had to have a stick because it makes her feel young. It would be great if she knew which gear to use. I stopped telling her to not use the clutch to hold the car at stop lights. It is better to just replace them than get into a fight. However I think she is going with the CVT. We fly, so I compared it to a constant speed prop in a plane and that made it sound cool. In a high performance plane you set the turbine at 100% and just let the prop change pitch to get the job done. But my biggest fear is we get the CVT and it is not reliable. It will be my fault. <<rant off>>
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:47 PM   #11242
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It would void your warranty, and buying the parts to do an OEM lift is likely to cost more than just trading in the car for a Crosstrek. Preusming you could do it in the first place.
I actually had a chat with a Subaru Master Tech at a dealer who said there should be no problems putting the OEM gear from a XV on a sport aside from the price, he also mentioned that if it's OEM gear installed by an authorized Subaru dealer it should be covered under the cars existing warranty.

Not 100% on that and will ask again once the XV hits the market but it definitely appeals to me.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:50 PM   #11243
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I actually had a chat with a Subaru Master Tech at a dealer who said there should be no problems putting the OEM gear from a XV on a sport aside from the price, he also mentioned that if it's OEM gear installed by an authorized Subaru dealer it should be covered under the cars existing warranty.

Not 100% on that and will ask again once the XV hits the market but it definitely appeals to me.
Just a hunch that financially you would come out ahead trading in your car for an XV over paying Subaru mechanics to build one for you with OEM parts.
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Just a hunch that financially you would come out ahead trading in your car for an XV over paying Subaru mechanics to build one for you with OEM parts.
Most likely but sometimes it's about just seeing what can be done.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:01 PM   #11245
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My first oil change was at 1100, at the time they were out of Amsoil in 0w20. So I used Mobil1 Advanced Fuel Economy. Then the dealer changed it at 3500. After a thousand more miles I went with the standard grade Amsoil. Not the Extended stuff... Yet.
The gear oil I used in the tranny and rear diff is Amsoil 75w90 Severe Gear.
Car really seems to like it. I think the driveline is whats really breaking in for the first few thousand.
Between all the synthetics, the ethanol free gas, the nitro fill, and going really easy on it are why I've never had mpg complaints. Ymmv.
The rear diff was so easy I plan on doing it once a year. The tranny I plan on doing again after 60k or so. Its totally not necessary, but I do this with all my mechanical purchases. For 21k whats another $50-100 and a little elbow grease gonna hurt? For me its cheap piece of mind.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:10 PM   #11246
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My first oil change was at 1100, at the time they were out of Amsoil in 0w20. So I used Mobil1 Advanced Fuel Economy. Then the dealer changed it at 3500. After a thousand more miles I went with the standard grade Amsoil. Not the Extended stuff... Yet.
The gear oil I used in the tranny and rear diff is Amsoil 75w90 Severe Gear.
Car really seems to like it. I think the driveline is whats really breaking in for the first few thousand.
Between all the synthetics, the ethanol free gas, the nitro fill, and going really easy on it are why I've never had mpg complaints. Ymmv.
The rear diff was so easy I plan on doing it once a year. The tranny I plan on doing again after 60k or so. Its totally not necessary, but I do this with all my mechanical purchases. For 21k whats another $50-100 and a little elbow grease gonna hurt? For me its cheap piece of mind.
the manual tranny is 75w90, really?
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:12 PM   #11247
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Oddly enough I had a Jetta 2.5 as well. I think the Jetta transmission felt much more direct, easy to shift, and the clutch feel was much smoother compared to the 5 speed Impreza I checked out.

When I say rubbery I mean the shifting on the Impreza felt like there was more slop in the shift gates, had harder to detect gear engagement, and the clutch didn't feel nearly as well sorted. I didn't feel like I could bang through the gears with the Impreza, everything felt so mushy.

Also after driving aorund that Jetta 2.5 I had for a while, the lack of power in the Impreza stinks
i agree with the "notches" in the jetta's shifter are much more pronounced compared to the Impreza, but I only drove it for about 20 miles on a test drive. I was happy enough with the performance, the 2.5 on the jetta has a lot of torque which is probably why it feels peppier, but in reality I think it should be about a wash.
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Mine is. Running it in the transaxle and rear diff. Good stuff.
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i agree with the "notches" in the jetta's shifter are much more pronounced compared to the Impreza, but I only drove it for about 20 miles on a test drive. I was happy enough with the performance, the 2.5 on the jetta has a lot of torque which is probably why it feels peppier, but in reality I think it should be about a wash.
Shifter bushings do wonders.
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the manual tranny is 75w90, really?
That's what Amsoil recommends -- it is fully synthetic and Severe Gear is their best product.

What is the OEM weight? My only concern will be winter driving -- I don't live in Florida so the cold viscosity is probably more important than the hot viscosity.
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