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Old 07-30-2012, 02:10 PM   #13351
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i'm in the market for a new car and, although i have only internet reviewed so far, the 2012 impreza is at the top of my list (the only other car on my list is the mazda 3). i am going to go test drive in the next couple weeks but i am anxious and was hoping you guys could answer some questions for me before i go to the dealer.

1) can i custom order the vehicle with any combination of options (as allowable by the subaru website 'build your own')? and if so, do dealers charge more for custom orders?

2) i've looked at local dealer inventories and can't find any manuals. shifter and clutch pedal feel are important to me. what do you guys think about it?

3) are the roof rails on the sport model easily removed (by me)?

4) is there any luck of getting a 6 speed manual in the near future (i.e. 2013 or 2014 model)?

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Was there anything specific you are looking for in a car?

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These were my Top cars. I ended up getting the Subaru because of the AWD

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Old 07-30-2012, 03:00 PM   #13352
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Was there anything specific you are looking for in a car?

Price Range?
AWD?
2-4 Door?

These were my Top cars. I ended up getting the Subaru because of the AWD

http://www.cars.com/go/compare/model...15,13459,13461
yep that was my list also
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:26 PM   #13353
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Anyone put fuel in and have it NOT register on the digital readouts? This is the second time for me. I put 15 in and get zero miles and zero bars. I know 15 usually makes it say 100 miles.. wtf? Oh, and I have the formentioned seat squeak as well.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:36 PM   #13354
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Anyone put fuel in and have it NOT register on the digital readouts? This is the second time for me. I put 15 in and get zero miles and zero bars. I know 15 usually makes it say 100 miles.. wtf? Oh, and I have the formentioned seat squeak as well.

How many gallons did you put in? Not sure how much $15 gets you where you live. Sometimes you need to drive it around for awhile for it to recalculate. Every digital bar is just over 1 gallon of fuel (I think close to 1 1/4 gallons). After a little bit of driving it should recalculate for you.

Btw, I have never had this problem and I am getting closer to 5400 miles.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:37 PM   #13355
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Anyone put fuel in and have it NOT register on the digital readouts? This is the second time for me. I put 15 in and get zero miles and zero bars. I know 15 usually makes it say 100 miles.. wtf? Oh, and I have the formentioned seat squeak as well.
Mine did that once but it was because I did t shut the car off when refueling , just turn car off and back on and it should register
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:38 PM   #13356
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Mine did that once but it was because I did t shut the car off when refueling , just turn car off and back on and it should register


Isn't that a big no-no to fuel the car while the engine is running?
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:44 PM   #13357
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Isn't that a big no-no to fuel the car while the engine is running?
Meh, only reason they say thar is due to fuel "possibly" igniting due to fumes of the gas - I , it's texas and 110degrees , I don't wear sweaters or anything that is staticky do no big ..... Been fueling most every car I have ever owned (37) like this all the time and I'm still alive
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:08 PM   #13358
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I just got a warning ticket from the security company that oversees the security for the parking structure I park in at work. The reason for the ticket is that I parked in a "compact-only" parking space. Uhhhhh????? If they catch me parking in a compact-only stall again, they'll have my car towed. Such bull...deciding whether I should call and let them know that my 5-door is in fact in the compact-class of vehicles or whether to just leave it alone.

Don't want to possibly go through the hassle of talking to one person, having that person say, "Ok, you're right," only for that person to not convey that to the other security personnel and find that my car gets towed anyway, and then go through the hassle of getting my car from the impound lot and trying to get the security company to pay me back. Decisions, decisions...
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:11 PM   #13359
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Anyone put fuel in and have it NOT register on the digital readouts? This is the second time for me. I put 15 in and get zero miles and zero bars. I know 15 usually makes it say 100 miles.. wtf? Oh, and I have the formentioned seat squeak as well.
If you calculated all the extra times you had to go to the gas station and fill up Starting and stopping the engine. Plus what your time is worth you would realize that it makes all the sense in the world to just fill up all the way. Im sure thats how the car system was designed.

So if you are going to complain about the car not working right maybe you should start using it correctly.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:24 PM   #13360
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I just got a warning ticket from the security company that oversees the security for the parking structure I park in at work. The reason for the ticket is that I parked in a "compact-only" parking space. Uhhhhh????? If they catch me parking in a compact-only stall again, they'll have my car towed. Such bull...deciding whether I should call and let them know that my 5-door is in fact in the compact-class of vehicles or whether to just leave it alone.

Don't want to possibly go through the hassle of talking to one person, having that person say, "Ok, you're right," only for that person to not convey that to the other security personnel and find that my car gets towed anyway, and then go through the hassle of getting my car from the impound lot and trying to get the security company to pay me back. Decisions, decisions...
Just a thought, but you could ask them to put in writing that this is a compact car and has permission to use a compact space and then put a copy of the piece of paper under your wiper every time you park. Or they could issue decals or something. I wouldn't want to risk a tow either! Good luck, and condolences. How annoying!
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:25 PM   #13361
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Mine did that once but it was because I did t shut the car off when refueling , just turn car off and back on and it should register
First time it happened I had left the car running. The second time; I in fact had it shut off as I always shut if off to fuel after the first incident. As for the rude comment of "using the car correctly" does anyone have the quote on hand from Subaru that states what portions of gas may be dispensed into the tank without causing problems? I hardly think everyone fills up all the time nor that it matters. This forum is about community, not arrogance.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:25 PM   #13362
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If you calculated all the extra times you had to go to the gas station and fill up Starting and stopping the engine. Plus what your time is worth you would realize that it makes all the sense in the world to just fill up all the way. Im sure thats how the car system was designed.

So if you are going to complain about the car not working right maybe you should start using it correctly.
... This wasnt my post, but can u ease up a little I'm sure your reason has some sense behind it but bare in mind how you word replays on here , you just came off as a jerk , what if he was running low on funds and just needed enough gas to get him till pay day , there is always a reason behind what MOST people do so dont assume everyone is an idiot ? Thanks -Cody
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:42 PM   #13363
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First time it happened I had left the car running. The second time; I in fact had it shut off as I always shut if off to fuel after the first incident. As for the rude comment of "using the car correctly" does anyone have the quote on hand from Subaru that states what portions of gas may be dispensed into the tank without causing problems? I hardly think everyone fills up all the time nor that it matters. This forum is about community, not arrogance.
I never do partial fillups, my time is much more valuable than going to a station multiple times/week.

I don't think the car was designed only for full fill ups though
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:50 PM   #13364
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I don't know, I was just curious as to whether any of you had experienced the same thing. I was actually wondering if a ground kit would help the situation as well. There's only one way to find out I guess.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:09 PM   #13365
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Just a thought, but you could ask them to put in writing that this is a compact car and has permission to use a compact space and then put a copy of the piece of paper under your wiper every time you park. Or they could issue decals or something. I wouldn't want to risk a tow either! Good luck, and condolences. How annoying!
Oh, good idea. I'll ask for that and see what happens. Yes, very annoying indeed.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:31 PM   #13366
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I never do partial fillups, my time is much more valuable than going to a station multiple times/week.

I don't think the car was designed only for full fill ups though
I have done partial fillups and the the computer recalculates after a few miles of driving to show the new estimated range until empty. The car does that and the system is designed to do that. Obviously you probably need to fill up enough for the system to recognize the new volume (can't just put in 1/4 to 1/2 gallon and expect it to recognize and recalculate from that) but a good 4-5 gallons will definitely register.


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Meh, only reason they say thar is due to fuel "possibly" igniting due to fumes of the gas - I , it's texas and 110degrees , I don't wear sweaters or anything that is staticky do no big ..... Been fueling most every car I have ever owned (37) like this all the time and I'm still alive
Hope you it keeps working for you!
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:43 PM   #13367
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After resetting the trip meter, the gauges/calculations start up again after driving for exactly 1 mile. Is that what's happening @savage?
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:59 AM   #13368
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Meh, only reason they say thar is due to fuel "possibly" igniting due to fumes of the gas - I , it's texas and 110degrees , I don't wear sweaters or anything that is staticky do no big ..... Been fueling most every car I have ever owned (37) like this all the time and I'm still alive
How many electrical systems are grounded to your car Body and Engine? Im sure it has more to do with the electrical current being distributed throughout your car as opposed to gas fumes.

As for the rude comment. Well, you will live. To get the most accurate readings a full fill up is needed. Not necessary but you cant check real numbers vs computer if you put 15 dollars worth. (which is roughly 4 gallons)
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:12 AM   #13369
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I realize that it's probably been discussed previously here, but so far I cannot find a specific resolution to this....

Over the 8000 miles I so far have accrued in my 2012 Impreza Limited, I've noticed that the computer routinely over-estimates the fuel economy, by about (for me) 5.9%. Does anyone know if it is possible for a service technician to adjust/tweak the settings in the onboard computer to bring the MPG down to a more realistic level? Can anyone point to a Subaru service document describing this procedure?

And while I'm on it.....has anyone experimented with tire pressure variations to provide better fuel economy? I realize that Subaru has directed 32 psi for the front and 30 psi for the rear. My dealership seems to have set each about 5 psi higher. Not sure if this has anything to do with being at a high altitude (Denver, mile high!). In my old 2000 Forester, I recall a lot of discussion on tweaks to tire pressure for better economy.
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I realize that it's probably been discussed previously here, but so far I cannot find a specific resolution to this....

Over the 8000 miles I so far have accrued in my 2012 Impreza Limited, I've noticed that the computer routinely over-estimates the fuel economy, by about (for me) 5.9%. Does anyone know if it is possible for a service technician to adjust/tweak the settings in the onboard computer to bring the MPG down to a more realistic level? Can anyone point to a Subaru service document describing this procedure?

And while I'm on it.....has anyone experimented with tire pressure variations to provide better fuel economy? I realize that Subaru has directed 32 psi for the front and 30 psi for the rear. My dealership seems to have set each about 5 psi higher. Not sure if this has anything to do with being at a high altitude (Denver, mile high!). In my old 2000 Forester, I recall a lot of discussion on tweaks to tire pressure for better economy.
Yes you can ask them to adjust it at the dealership because this is a subaru service computer task.

I keep both of mine around 35. I notice no difference between that and 32/30
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:34 AM   #13371
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Won't over-inflating your tires give slightly better gas mileage but worse handling?
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Won't over-inflating your tires give slightly better gas mileage but worse handling?
also irregular wear.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:11 AM   #13373
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Over the 8000 miles I so far have accrued in my 2012 Impreza Limited, I've noticed that the computer routinely over-estimates the fuel economy, by about (for me) 5.9%. Does anyone know if it is possible for a service technician to adjust/tweak the settings in the onboard computer to bring the MPG down to a more realistic level? Can anyone point to a Subaru service document describing this procedure?
On the Outback, someone had found a programming menu documented deep within the Technical Service Manual that lets you calibrate the thermometer, MPG calculation, and something else that I don't recall. It's done using the trip display buttons and LCD readout between the speedo and tach.

Given how similar the Impreza is in its displays and functionality, I would bet a similar programming routine exists for the Impreza. Unfortunately, I did this so long ago I don't remember the details, but you might want to search on Subaruoutback.net and give it a try.

Or maybe someone with the Impreza Technical Service Manual can search for the Impreza version and post it here if it exists.

I adjusted my Outback down 3% and it is much closer to reality now; -4% is probably where it needs to be.
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On the Outback, someone had found a programming menu documented deep within the Technical Service Manual that lets you calibrate the thermometer, MPG calculation, and something else that I don't recall. It's done using the trip display buttons and LCD readout between the speedo and tach.

Given how similar the Impreza is in its displays and functionality, I would bet a similar programming routine exists for the Impreza. Unfortunately, I did this so long ago I don't remember the details, but you might want to search on Subaruoutback.net and give it a try.

Or maybe someone with the Impreza Technical Service Manual can search for the Impreza version and post it here if it exists.

I adjusted my Outback down 3% and it is much closer to reality now; -4% is probably where it needs to be.
I think someone posted those instructions and it didn't work.
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On the Outback, someone had found a programming menu documented deep within the Technical Service Manual that lets you calibrate the thermometer, MPG calculation, and something else that I don't recall. It's done using the trip display buttons and LCD readout between the speedo and tach.

Given how similar the Impreza is in its displays and functionality, I would bet a similar programming routine exists for the Impreza. Unfortunately, I did this so long ago I don't remember the details, but you might want to search on Subaruoutback.net and give it a try.

Or maybe someone with the Impreza Technical Service Manual can search for the Impreza version and post it here if it exists.

I adjusted my Outback down 3% and it is much closer to reality now; -4% is probably where it needs to be.
FOUND IT!

NOTE: These instructions are for the OUTBACK. They may or may not work for the Impreza, but it's worth a try....

3. DEALER CUSTOMIZE MODE
The combination meter can be customized with dealer customize according to the following procedure.
CAUTION: Perform the steps described in 1) through 4) within 10 seconds.
1) Within 3 seconds after turning the ignition switch to ON, set the lighting switch to tail light or headlight position.
2) Press the trip meter knob five times.
3) Turn the lighting switch to OFF, and press the trip meter knob five times.
4) Set the lighting switch to tail light or headlight position again, and press the trip meter knob five times.
5) Move on to the “DEALER CUSTOMIZE MODE”.
  • When the dealer customize mode operates, the LCD displays each adjustment screen.
  • The dealer customize mode consists of three setting screens. {Avg.F/E Correction Screen}, {Ambient Temp. Correction Screen} and {Clock Adjust. Screen} is displayed cyclically in this order every time the trip meter knob is tapped.
  • Holding down the trip meter knob while each setting screen is displayed can change the setting value.
NOTE: When ignition switch is turned OFF or the vehicle is driven, the customize mode is cancelled automatically.

No...Customize mode........................Initial value......Correction range
1....Avg.F/E Correction Screen...........+/-0%............ +/-10%
2....Ambient Temp. Correction Screen..+/-0C (F)..... +/-3C (F)
3....Clock Adjust. Screen.................. on................. on or off
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