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Old 11-08-2012, 08:36 AM   #14526
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Check your pressure obviously...but it could be something simple like packed snow in the wheel. When i had my previous impreza the ABS light would always go on when the front wheels were packed with snow. Used to go away once the snow was gone after a little driving.
pressure was a little low i guess. the lowest tire was around 25 so i topped them all off and it eventually went away. just a coincidince it happened during the snow storm. thanks.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:59 AM   #14527
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I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that thinks that! Had to drive on snow covered roads tonight and the car was sliding all over the place. I know tires have a lot to do with it, but so far I'm also not impressed.
Same with me, I wasn't that impressed with the stock tires in the snow we got either. I have winter tires, but I still think its too early to put them on with 63 degree weather coming on Monday. The best I was able to do was to put it in manual mode and downshift - that helped a lot going down hills (this is why I miss my stick shift )
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:31 AM   #14528
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All 4 of my stock tires also dropped down to 25 psi during the snow yesterday.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:24 AM   #14529
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^Mine too, as I was driving home the tire pressure light came on. Filled them up this morning, hopefully I dont have another leak
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:07 PM   #14530
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Snow tires are worth every penny. The imp is great in the snow if you have good tires.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:50 PM   #14531
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Snow tires are worth every penny. The imp is great in the snow if you have good tires.
I think it is pretty good w/o. I have never had awd or snow tires on any vehicle so it is already better than anything I have ever driven in the winter
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:17 PM   #14532
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I think it is pretty good w/o. I have never had awd or snow tires on any vehicle so it is already better than anything I have ever driven in the winter
Same here, i drove through all the snow last night and i thought it was pretty legit. Maybe if your trying to do some spirited driving in the snow i can see everyones point, for normal driving i didnt have any problems
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:12 PM   #14533
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The rule of thumb is, for light to moderate snow the stock tires are fine. Anything heavier you are going to want winter/snow tires. This goes for any car I have driven.

I drove last year in a couple of inches of snow and it was fine.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:25 PM   #14534
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Sorry just wanted to confirm, you have Rally Armors and not the ones from Pierre? I'm really liking the look.
Not a problem, yes they are Rally Armor UR. Thank you very much!
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:44 PM   #14535
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The rule of thumb is, for light to moderate snow the stock tires are fine. Anything heavier you are going to want winter/snow tires. This goes for any car I have driven.

I drove last year in a couple of inches of snow and it was fine.

And as others have probably said, while the snow is an important aspect for the snow tires, it is also the extended periods of below freezing that affects all season tires ability to have traction (especially for slowing down) that winter tires have since they are specifically made for this with a different rubber compound.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:00 AM   #14536
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For those wondering why I dumped my failure-prone 2010 Golf TDI to buy the 2012 Impreza, here's some interesting data from the December 2012 issue of Consumer Reports:



It looks to me like my Impreza is about 65% more reliable than the TDI.

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Old 11-09-2012, 07:55 AM   #14537
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Wow i was deciding between a Ford focus. What a serious mistake that would have been
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:36 AM   #14538
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Wow i was deciding between a Ford focus. What a serious mistake that would have been
Agreed; the Impreza and the Focus were the only two cars I test drove after deciding to dump my TDI. In the end, my gut instinct told me that the Impreza would be more reliable, and hold its resale value better, over time. I actually thought the Focus drove very well during my test drive, and seriously considered buying one. But then again, the TDI was awesome during the test drive too.

It's nice to see confirmation in the data.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:38 AM   #14539
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I was actually thinking about the Mazda 3 and Kia Rio in addition to Focus...Glad I went with the Subaru.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:42 AM   #14540
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The Mazda 3 with the new SkyActiv engine shows above average reliability in the CR magazine charts, but not as far above average as the Impreza (like 15% vs 45% above average, respectively). The Kia Rio is 20% above average.

For reasons I don't understand, the Impreza hatchback is 45% above average, but the Impreza sedan is 75% above average. Does that mean that the sedan is more reliable than the hatchback (and if so, why?), or does that mean that the average reliability in the "Small Hatchbacks" category is higher than the average reliability in the "Small Cars" category?
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:02 AM   #14541
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^I think it probably means taking CR as a whole with a grain of salt
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:09 AM   #14542
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^I think it probably means taking CR as a whole with a grain of salt
I must disagree with this, especially when it comes to their reliability data. I may not always agree with their opinions when it comes to a car's design/style/performance/other subjective things. But the reliability data comes from the experiences of actual car owners, and it's hard to argue with that.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:28 AM   #14543
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What's the range of dates for that CR chart?

Wondering why the Ford CMax isn't on there yet.

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Old 11-09-2012, 10:35 AM   #14544
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I must disagree with this, especially when it comes to their reliability data. I may not always agree with their opinions when it comes to a car's design/style/performance/other subjective things. But the reliability data comes from the experiences of actual car owners, and it's hard to argue with that.

True, I was speaking more to CR as a whole. The only thing that makes sense to me about the differences between the sedan and the hatch is that maybe they had more reports from hatchback owners, and thus a better representation of reliability. I, for one, have seen a lot more hatchbacks around here than sedans
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:27 AM   #14545
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What's the range of dates for that CR chart?

Wondering why the Ford CMax isn't on there yet.

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"To rate each model, we calculate an overall score for each of the newest three model years, provided the model has had no major changes in that time. For each of the three model years, we compare a vehicle's overall-reliability score with the average for all vehicles of the same age. Yearly differences are combined to give the predicted reliability as a percentage better or worse than average. The overall average is the zero line in the charts, and the average rating includes scores within 20 points of either side of the line....If a model was new or redesigned in the past year, or if we lack sufficient data for some years, we might use data from only one model year. Those models are marked with an asterisk (*)."

Regarding the Ford CMax, I know that CR won't publish reliability data unless the receive at least 100 surveys back from owners of a car model. So maybe CR just didn't have enough data. Yes, I just confirmed that online at the CR web site--they don't have enough data yet for the CMax.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:55 AM   #14546
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Wow i was deciding between a Ford focus. What a serious mistake that would have been
The funny thing about the Focus is that it never had a good reliability record to begin with, however when they came out with a new model, people just assumed it would be more reliable. I mean heck, it looks better so it should be more reliable right?!?
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:07 PM   #14547
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Agreed; the Impreza and the Focus were the only two cars I test drove after deciding to dump my TDI. In the end, my gut instinct told me that the Impreza would be more reliable, and hold its resale value better, over time. I actually thought the Focus drove very well during my test drive, and seriously considered buying one. But then again, the TDI was awesome during the test drive too.

It's nice to see confirmation in the data.
I have to say the 5 speed and clutch felt much better on the focus. I also had the instinct that led me to buy a subaru.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:37 PM   #14548
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I have to say the 5 speed and clutch felt much better on the focus. I also had the instinct that led me to buy a subaru.
I agree regarding the clutch. I like the Impreza's shifter just fine, but I wish the clutch had a lower and more progressive catch point. But I'll forgive it for that.

FYI, the specific portions of the Focus that earned it that poor reliability score are transmission, squeaks and rattles, and audio system (aka MyFord Touch).
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:26 PM   #14549
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For reasons I don't understand, the Impreza hatchback is 45% above average, but the Impreza sedan is 75% above average.
I looked this up on the CR web site. The sedan got above average marks in the Squeaks & Rattles category, and the hatchback got below average in that category. So that explains the difference.

I wonder why the sedan is less prone to squeaks and rattles than the hatchback?
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #14550
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Smaller cabin, less room for rattles maybe?
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