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Old 02-01-2013, 06:54 PM   #15476
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For those that upgraded the front and/or rear sway bar from the stock ones, did you noticed much different in daily driving?
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:22 PM   #15477
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Anyone found a fsb yet?
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:25 PM   #15478
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Anyone found a fsb yet?
if it isnt the same for any other year, pray they make one for the crosstrek bc they wont for our cars
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:38 PM   #15479
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Sad but oh so true. The crosstrek gets all the love.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:48 PM   #15480
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Anyone found a fsb yet?
http://www.cusco.co.jp/en/parts_prod...4_sport_p.html

There is one available from Cusco, don't know if you've seen this yet.

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Old 02-01-2013, 10:50 PM   #15481
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Naturally cusco would do it. These are the best mods for our cars
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:54 PM   #15482
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http://www.cusco.co.jp/en/parts_prod...4_sport_p.html

There is one available from Cusco, don't know if you've seen this yet.

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wow forgot all about cusco
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:57 PM   #15483
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if it isnt the same for any other year, pray they make one for the crosstrek bc they wont for our cars
I don't get why. The Impreza is better in every way that is significant. They screwed up on the Crosstrek by not improving the angle of approach...that front overhang is MASSIVE for an offroad car.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:26 AM   #15484
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I don't get why. The Impreza is better in every way that is significant. They screwed up on the Crosstrek by not improving the angle of approach...that front overhang is MASSIVE for an offroad car.
better in every way how? if i were to go off roading or a muddy trail the impreza would not be my first choice. road trips, yes. the crosstrek is a crossover. its like an all-season tire. its decent at everything but better vehicles to do specific jobs. its a crappy small suv and a crappy eco car. if someone wanted the best off road subaru, forester. or if the wanted the best eco subaru, impreza. best of both worlds?

you dont get why? because subaru decided that the new impreza would be way different than the wrx. for example, back then the wrx was about 225 horse power and the standard car was 170ish horse power. if you couldn't afford a wrx, you got the rs or the standard model. now a day if you cant afford the wrx do you buy the base? no, you buy a used one(and then it blows up). so as an aftermarket manufacturer, why would i build parts for a car that isn't really considered a poor man wrx like the olden days. most of the people who buys these car are for daily eco driving (me). i mean sure there will be some people who would love to improve the cars handeling(you). but if you take the percentage of the 2012 buys who want to modify it and compare it to the percentage of those who wanted to mod the old impreza. the earlier year would probably be greatly higher. so would it be financially beneficial to make performance parts for the newer generation impreza with the whole development and processing, would or could it be profitable? this car isn't a track monster, a n/a beast, autox devil, it is an eco car.

the crosstrek is different and new and people will probably flock to that more (not so sure with the new 2014 forester). just my opinion. logically speaking, but hey cusco has not yet abandon us.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:49 AM   #15485
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better in every way how? if i were to go off roading or a muddy trail the impreza would not be my first choice. road trips, yes. the crosstrek is a crossover. its like an all-season tire. its decent at everything but better vehicles to do specific jobs. its a crappy small suv and a crappy eco car. if someone wanted the best off road subaru, forester. or if the wanted the best eco subaru, impreza. best of both worlds?

you dont get why? because subaru decided that the new impreza would be way different than the wrx. for example, back then the wrx was about 225 horse power and the standard car was 170ish horse power. if you couldn't afford a wrx, you got the rs or the standard model. now a day if you cant afford the wrx do you buy the base? no, you buy a used one(and then it blows up). so as an aftermarket manufacturer, why would i build parts for a car that isn't really considered a poor man wrx like the olden days. most of the people who buys these car are for daily eco driving (me). i mean sure there will be some people who would love to improve the cars handeling(you). but if you take the percentage of the 2012 buys who want to modify it and compare it to the percentage of those who wanted to mod the old impreza. the earlier year would probably be greatly higher. so would it be financially beneficial to make performance parts for the newer generation impreza with the whole development and processing, would or could it be profitable? this car isn't a track monster, a n/a beast, autox devil, it is an eco car.

the crosstrek is different and new and people will probably flock to that more (not so sure with the new 2014 forester). just my opinion. logically speaking, but hey cusco has not yet abandon us.
I just feel like the Crosstrek came soooo close to being just perfect and missed the mark in its moment of glory. Don't get me wrong, I really like it, but I don't like it as much as an Impreza, especially with the forester pulling up the slack on the other end of the line.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:00 AM   #15486
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I just feel like the Crosstrek came soooo close to being just perfect and missed the mark in its moment of glory. Don't get me wrong, I really like it, but I don't like it as much as an Impreza, especially with the forester pulling up the slack on the other end of the line.
thats one thing subaru is doing i dont get. build cars to compete against each other. crosstrek, forester, and outback. crosstrexk 33 mpg, forester 2014 32 mpg, outback 31 mpg. the difference is negligible and pricing are close. i mean wth. i know what your are saying. but why build and in between car. oh well, it is selling though. the crosstrek wont be perfect, no car will. 2014 forester is close though, large room, 32 mpg, and smoother engine.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:42 AM   #15487
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So my current list of upgrades planned is as follows:
19mm sway bar
Cusco strut stiffener
Rallyarmor mud flaps

Anything else anyone would care to recommend? I was originally hoping to also add a Perrin lightweight crank pulley, but the risk of voiding the engine warranty if something goes wrong scares me too much. Am I being rational here?
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:57 AM   #15488
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So my current list of upgrades planned is as follows:
19mm sway bar
Cusco strut stiffener
Rallyarmor mud flaps

Anything else anyone would care to recommend? I was originally hoping to also add a Perrin lightweight crank pulley, but the risk of voiding the engine warranty if something goes wrong scares me too much. Am I being rational here?

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Old 02-02-2013, 07:06 AM   #15489
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So my current list of upgrades planned is as follows:
19mm sway bar
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Rallyarmor mud flaps

Anything else anyone would care to recommend? I was originally hoping to also add a Perrin lightweight crank pulley, but the risk of voiding the engine warranty if something goes wrong scares me too much. Am I being rational here?
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:44 AM   #15490
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The Crosstrek is an Impreza. The only difference is a 3” lift, a slightly stiffer rear end, and some plastic bits on the bottom edges. The only thing making it not a trim option for the Impreza was a marketing decision.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:09 AM   #15491
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The Crosstrek is an Impreza. The only difference is a 3” lift, a slightly stiffer rear end, and some plastic bits on the bottom edges. The only thing making it not a trim option for the Impreza was a marketing decision.
Is the tranny gearing different (for both the CVT and the manual tranny)? The Crosstrek gets worse MPGs than the Impreza, and its acceleration is slower, so I think it's geared differently.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:27 AM   #15492
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The Crosstrek is an Impreza. The only difference is a 3” lift, a slightly stiffer rear end, and some plastic bits on the bottom edges. The only thing making it not a trim option for the Impreza was a marketing decision.
Actually, there is quite a bit more than that. Basically yea but the crosstrek has some stuff you cant see. Better cooling for towing, shorter final drive. The whole chassis is actually stiffer. More plastic bits under the car. The lift is from tires, bigger struts, and body spacers. Shorter wheel base as well. Those are just some of the things on top of my head. There is a lot more. Its like comparing the outback and the legacy. I mean it would be quite an extensive job to make the impreza into a full cross trek than to go from premium to limited.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:31 AM   #15493
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The Crosstrek is an Impreza. The only difference is a 3” lift, a slightly stiffer rear end, and some plastic bits on the bottom edges. The only thing making it not a trim option for the Impreza was a marketing decision.
Definitely a marketing difference.
Imp goes up against Golf, Mazda 3, Focus, etc.
XV is intended to compete with Rav4, CRV, Sportage, etc.

I think there are some other differences in the body/frame of an XV. Something about additional bracing to deal with offroad stresses. Maybe that's the stiffer rear end you mention? The specs show an 80lb weight difference.

Just saw this on cars101:
2013 2.0i XV Crosstrek is the first Impreza based crossover/SUV.
It is a slightly modified Impreza 5door hatchback.
It's the next step in the natural evolution of the Impreza Outback Sport (1993-2011), and 2.0i Sport (2012).
It has 8.7" ground clearance, strengthened suspension points, fender flares, larger gas tank, dark tinted windows, and other upgrades.
It shares the body, interior, 2.0L engine, CVT transmission, and chassis of the Impreza 5 door but for advertising purposes is going to be marketed independently from the Imprezas as a separate model line.
It competes directly with the Impreza Sport 5 door.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:32 AM   #15494
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Is the tranny gearing different (for both the CVT and the manual tranny)? The Crosstrek gets worse MPGs than the Impreza, and its acceleration is slower, so I think it's geared differently.
Well there is a lot of factors that go into mpg. Mainly aerodynamics. When you lift a car you will get worse mpg. As the redneck with a lifted truck. Next the crosstrek has larger tires. A wider contact patch increase rolling resistance and the larger diameter causes more energy to rotate them. And lastly, yes the crosstrek has a shorter final drive but that should have helped with acceleration but not with mpg. Also the crosstrek is ever so slightly heavier.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:02 AM   #15495
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So my current list of upgrades planned is as follows:
19mm sway bar
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Anything else anyone would care to recommend? I was originally hoping to also add a Perrin lightweight crank pulley, but the risk of voiding the engine warranty if something goes wrong scares me too much. Am I being rational here?
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:24 AM   #15496
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Well there is a lot of factors that go into mpg. Mainly aerodynamics. When you lift a car you will get worse mpg. As the redneck with a lifted truck. Next the crosstrek has larger tires. A wider contact patch increase rolling resistance and the larger diameter causes more energy to rotate them. And lastly, yes the crosstrek has a shorter final drive but that should have helped with acceleration but not with mpg. Also the crosstrek is ever so slightly heavier.
Actually only some of that is true. Yes, more wind resistance, but the wider contact patch (with the same pressure) means a shorter one as well, but rolling resistance is more dependent on the tire itself rather than just the size. The larger diameter *does not* need more energy to keep them rolling, only (all other things being equal) more energy to *get* them rolling. "A body in motion"... The shorter drive ratio will help in acceleration only off the line - how does it compare with the diameter as well? Since the CVT is too highly geared in the Impreza, a shorter drive may actually help the mpg in real world driving.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:24 AM   #15497
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:47 AM   #15498
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Actually only some of that is true. Yes, more wind resistance, but the wider contact patch (with the same pressure) means a shorter one as well, but rolling resistance is more dependent on the tire itself rather than just the size. The larger diameter *does not* need more energy to keep them rolling, only (all other things being equal) more energy to *get* them rolling. "A body in motion"... The shorter drive ratio will help in acceleration only off the line - how does it compare with the diameter as well? Since the CVT is too highly geared in the Impreza, a shorter drive may actually help the mpg in real world driving.
oops correct, it doesnt need more energy to keep rolling but to change acceleration. well the tire that came with the crosstrek is not classified as a low rolling resistance tire as the impreza was equipped was. i am not sure what you mean by "shorter". just thinking about it, a larger tire would have more of a contact area compared to a skinnier tire. why would race cars need wider tires? and if you had a skinny tire and a wide tire, both with the tires compound the same, then wouldn't a tire with more contact area to the ground have a more rolling resistance than a tire with less? not sure what you are asking me? I cant remember off the top of my head the exact numbers, but the final drive of the impreza cvt is 3.84 and the cvt crosstrek is 4.1. theoretically, sure a short drive should help but fuelly.com is killing the crosstrek mpg.
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Has anyone actually done this mod yet?
one guy on in this forum but i ask a question and he never responded. but i did inquire some information from multiple manufactures. it turns out that the last generation had the same bolt pattern for their struts. i measured the bolts and submitted it to the manufacture and they confirmed.
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