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Old 09-19-2013, 09:40 AM   #18951
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For the last few weeks now every time the car is cold and im starting out my brakes will squeal when applied the first couple of times and then won't do it again. Is it time to change pads? Are they covered under warranty? Car has 22k on the ODO.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:51 AM   #18952
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For the last few weeks now every time the car is cold and im starting out my brakes will squeal when applied the first couple of times and then won't do it again. Is it time to change pads? Are they covered under warranty? Car has 22k on the ODO.
Do you park your car outside overnight? If so, then it's probably just the morning dew getting scrubbed of the rotors.

Have a look at your brake fluid reservoir. Is the level pretty high still? If so, then your pads are probably fine. As your pads wear, the fluid level drops. If your fluid level is still high, then your pads haven't worn out yet.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:57 AM   #18953
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Impressive. I'm holding off on soundproofing until I get reasonable tires, because I may not care enough to want to soundproof if different tires are that much better.
I still need to do the front floor, and the tiny but of road noise I get now will probably go away
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:58 AM   #18954
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For the last few weeks now every time the car is cold and im starting out my brakes will squeal when applied the first couple of times and then won't do it again. Is it time to change pads? Are they covered under warranty? Car has 22k on the ODO.
Sounds like a vw thing. I haven't noticed it with the Subaru, but our jetta does it daily
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:59 AM   #18955
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So interesting observation this morning, my speedometer is underreporting 1.8% and my odometer is underreporting 3%. With the stock tires only the odometer was off. I am going to test it with another GPS to verify this result
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:31 PM   #18956
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Civilian GPS's do not correct for ionospheric conditions, so sometimes they are "off" vs military GPS. I'd try it again like you mentioned.
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #18957
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Civilian GPS's do not correct for ionospheric conditions, so sometimes they are "off" vs military GPS. I'd try it again like you mentioned.

well, I will doublecheck it this weekend, but so far today both my phone and the Garmin I borrowed are indicating pretty much 2% across the board, i got data from 30-80 every 5mph. (will post later when I have the time)

oh, and this happened today too

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Old 09-19-2013, 03:41 PM   #18958
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Found out recently that a strut bar from a 08+ WRX\STI will fit on the new Impreza. From what I've read, they do little to nothing for a Subaru because of the chassis design. Can anyone confirm or deny if there's any benefit to a strut bar on a 2012/2013 Impreza other than aesthetics?
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:45 PM   #18959
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well, I will doublecheck it this weekend, but so far today both my phone and the Garmin I borrowed are indicating pretty much 2% across the board, i got data from 30-80 every 5mph. (will post later when I have the time) oh, and this happened today too
Nice catch, I'm not "intune" with my car yet and missed all but 1000 mile mark. My truck I just happened to look at right time for all major milestones.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:15 PM   #18960
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Found out recently that a strut bar from a 08+ WRX\STI will fit on the new Impreza. From what I've read, they do little to nothing for a Subaru because of the chassis design. Can anyone confirm or deny if there's any benefit to a strut bar on a 2012/2013 Impreza other than aesthetics?
I've also read that they do nothing to improve the car's handling.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:23 PM   #18961
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Juat extra weight and complexity, imo.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:43 PM   #18962
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So interesting observation this morning, my speedometer is underreporting 1.8% and my odometer is underreporting 3%. With the stock tires only the odometer was off. I am going to test it with another GPS to verify this result
interesting. with the stock tires on my odometer is just around 3% off (according to google maps routes 2.8-3.5%). my speedometer is pretty close to spot on although may be off up to ~1+% if i trust my wife's Garmin. (the speedometer reads either 0 or 1 mph too low compared to the garmin eg. 70vs 71, 60vs61, but not perfectly consistent; to the eye, sometimes, it reads the same)
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:44 PM   #18963
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well, I will doublecheck it this weekend, but so far today both my phone and the Garmin I borrowed are indicating pretty much 2% across the board, i got data from 30-80 every 5mph. (will post later when I have the time)

oh, and this happened today too

congrats! i'm not even at 15k yet (took delivery april 2012).
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:54 PM   #18964
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Anyone else experiencing a "weird" initial start up from time to time? All weather conditions. The car may start fine, then drops off for a sec, then idles higher like normal. Or the car will slightt hesitate upon start up, then be fine. This is without the AC on or the front defroster, so no extra strain on the system. Car is a touch over 10k. I've driven a couple other Impreza Sports and Crosstreks and they all seem to do similar things. Also, this is the CVT. Aside from the odd startup, it drives fine.
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:48 PM   #18965
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oh, and this happened today too

That's really close on the tripodometer, only .9 miles off!

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Old 09-19-2013, 07:05 PM   #18966
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Anyone else experiencing a "weird" initial start up from time to time? All weather conditions. The car may start fine, then drops off for a sec, then idles higher like normal. Or the car will slightt hesitate upon start up, then be fine. This is without the AC on or the front defroster, so no extra strain on the system. Car is a touch over 10k. I've driven a couple other Impreza Sports and Crosstreks and they all seem to do similar things. Also, this is the CVT. Aside from the odd startup, it drives fine.
Sounds like the normal routine to me. Start, shoot up to 2,000 rpm, drop to 1500 rpm, go back up to 2,000 rpm, ease on down, down, down, down, blue temp light goes out, put her in drive and go! That's just the way these boxer engines are. I remember the '92 Legacy I had doing the same thing 18 years ago.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:02 PM   #18967
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Do you park your car outside overnight? If so, then it's probably just the morning dew getting scrubbed of the rotors.

Have a look at your brake fluid reservoir. Is the level pretty high still? If so, then your pads are probably fine. As your pads wear, the fluid level drops. If your fluid level is still high, then your pads haven't worn out yet.
Car does sit outside all night. It seems to do it anytime after it has sat for at least an hour. I will check the brake fluid in the morning. Thanks for the tip. Why does the fluid lower as they start to wear?
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:28 PM   #18968
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Here is my data I recorded today, odemeter was at about 3.1% slow today, and speedometer was off. What boggles my mind is I checked the odo/speedo relationship probably 20 times with the stock tires and NOT once was the speedo off. both times I have driven the car after getting the new tires mounted the speedo has been off.

Now the tires are the same size 205/50-17, but they definitely look bigger. they fill the wheel wells much better (will get a pic later), the rev's per mile according to tirerack is 826 (yokos 828) so that isn't enough, they are a 25.1" diameter vs 25.2" (even though they definitely look bigger), but that isn't anywhere near 2% either. I will drive probably 600-700 miles this weekend so I can get more data

speedometer data:
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30/30.8/31
35/36.4/36
40/41.4/41
45/46.2/46
50/50.9/51
55/55.9/56
60/61/61
65/66/66
70/71.3/71
75/76.9/77
80/81.9/82
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:34 PM   #18969
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Car does sit outside all night. It seems to do it anytime after it has sat for at least an hour. I will check the brake fluid in the morning. Thanks for the tip. Why does the fluid lower as they start to wear?
As the pads wear (get thinner), the brake pistons need to extend further from the calipers in order to push the pads against the rotors. So more brake fluid gets drawn from the reservoir and into the brake lines/calipers to make up for the extra distance that the pistons must extend out of the caliper.

Hope that makes sense.
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Old 09-20-2013, 12:41 AM   #18970
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Sounds like the normal routine to me. Start, shoot up to 2,000 rpm, drop to 1500 rpm, go back up to 2,000 rpm, ease on down, down, down, down, blue temp light goes out, put her in drive and go! That's just the way these boxer engines are. I remember the '92 Legacy I had doing the same thing 18 years ago.
Thanks! First Subaru.. Figured there was something different from the I's and V's I've been used to..
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:07 AM   #18971
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Further speedometer testing.

My Buick's sppedo/odo have always been prefect (fuel gauge is a different story, consistent, no where near accurate), anyway I put tires on it 2 years ago that at 1.6% larger so now it under reports speedo/odo by 1.6%.

This morning it didn't matter what speed I chose, all were 1.6% faster on the gps. I will test the Subaru again tomorrow, but I have a feeling it will be off the same amount as yesterday
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:39 AM   #18972
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As the pads wear (get thinner), the brake pistons need to extend further from the calipers in order to push the pads against the rotors. So more brake fluid gets drawn from the reservoir and into the brake lines/calipers to make up for the extra distance that the pistons must extend out of the caliper.

Hope that makes sense.
Oh, my other comment is that it's generally recommended to NOT add brake fluid when you see the level dropping in the reservoir (this is assuming that you don't have a brake fluid leak). When it comes time to replace your pads and/or rotors, it's necessary to squeeze the brake pistons back into the calipers in order to allow the new, thicker pads to fit. This process of squeezing the pistons back into the calipers will return the brake fluid back to its full level again.

People who add brake fluid as it drops, and then go to replace their pads/rotors often make a big mess when they squeeze the pistons back into the calipers, only to find that the brake fluid reservoir has overflowed. This causes a big mess that can be problematic (brake fluid dissolves paint, for example).
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:12 PM   #18973
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I have searched for the answer with no luck. Can anyone confirm the oil filter is the same as the one used on the older motors? I have a case of the Subaru Blue filters and before I go ahead and change the oil, I just wanted to check
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:20 PM   #18974
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^^ There are different blue filters. You'd have to provide the Subaru part number before we could help you with this research.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:04 PM   #18975
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I have a blue one on mine now. Car came with a black one, the dealer replaced with a blue one at oil change time.

Anyone know what brand oil Subaru uses factory and/or at the dealer?
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