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Old 12-05-2013, 12:26 AM   #19801
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^^Start with the Pioneer head unit alone, and see if that satisfies you. The factory head unit's built-in amp is wimpy, so you'll get a good amount of audio improvement just from the head unit replacement. Then, if you're still not satisfied, explore your speaker options.

I was content with the sound from my system after the Pioneer head unit upgrade, but if you're more particular about your sound quality, your mileage may vary.
I was determined to buy the aftermarket head first, then all new speakers. Honestly, like quoted, I am very happy with just the Pioneer HU. The sound quality is very good (especially with the road noise this car has). I would also personally vote for a Pioneer, nothing but good things to say.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:01 AM   #19802
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I was going to. But a lot of people have real mixed opinions on the quality of them..
The material of the Flapatax is stiff urethane (same as Rally Armor), looks the same to me as when I installed them last year.

The install hardware for the Flapatax is minimal, Rally Armor has nice brackets, etc.

That being said, mine haven't moved in the year since I put them on, so there is that.

You could, if you were motivated, buy the Flapatax and use Rally Armor mounting hardware.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:13 AM   #19803
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incredibly worth it. your rocker panels and door paint will thank you
You said the Aero Splash Guards were worthless, but at the same time...

I have the Sport Premium that came with Aero Splash Guards AND installed RAs. Since then the Aero Splash Guards have received damaged from road debris that would have otherwise made it elsewhere on the car.

Are they worth buying by themselves, probably not, but I wouldnt say theyre exactly worthless.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:00 PM   #19804
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Ok, dumb question, but can you buy JUST the Rally Armor flap hardware for our cars alone? Or is the only way to get it is to buy the custom UR's for out car? Because I was thinking that, but then it'd be almost $200 for two sets of flaps. haha Seems overkill. I may just go Flapatax first. Plus, I may have to remove/trim anyway when I install coils.
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:53 PM   #19805
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Unfortunately looks like one of my flapatax ripped through the bumper…



I emailed Pumpkyn so hopefully theres something I can do about it.

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Old 12-05-2013, 05:00 PM   #19806
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Ok, dumb question, but can you buy JUST the Rally Armor flap hardware for our cars alone? Or is the only way to get it is to buy the custom UR's for out car? Because I was thinking that, but then it'd be almost $200 for two sets of flaps. haha Seems overkill. I may just go Flapatax first. Plus, I may have to remove/trim anyway when I install coils.
Just pony up the money for the ra's and be done with it. See myrt's post above for the reason.

There it's a reason ra's cost more, and it isn't for the name.
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:16 PM   #19807
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Well Im not really unhappy about it, I mean they are 1/3 the price and 100% as functional as RAs.

It is an inconvenience I suppose…
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:18 PM   #19808
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Well Im not really unhappy about it, I mean they are 1/3 the price and 100% as functional as RAs.

It is an inconvenience I suppose…
I would be, it broke the plastic out?

My ra's were a Christmas present from wife last year, they have seen a lot of snow deeper than the bottom of the car and no issues in 25,000 miles.

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Old 12-05-2013, 05:20 PM   #19809
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Update on leaking rear hatch, it was the gasket on the 3rd brake light, they have to order the whole assembly. Whatever it is being fixed under my little bit of remaining warranty and I am happy
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:11 PM   #19810
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Flyboy, how flexible are the ra?
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:00 PM   #19811
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Flyboy, how flexible are the ra?
Extremely, even in -20f.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:07 PM   #19812
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Posted earlier, but never posted.

I did a non-scientific test earlier. Removed the spare tire/wheel and associated accessories. The car has seemed to balanced out and gotten rid of most of the excessive reverse rake. FYI. Did this on the hypothesis of the car sagging extra with a tow hitch.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:11 PM   #19813
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Posted earlier, but never posted.

I did a non-scientific test earlier. Removed the spare tire/wheel and associated accessories. The car has seemed to balanced out and gotten rid of most of the excessive reverse rake. FYI. Did this on the hypothesis of the car sagging extra with a tow hitch.
Just need to upgrade to run-flats and your all set ;-)
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:28 PM   #19814
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In all honesty, I haven't ran a spare in 6 years. haha
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:50 PM   #19815
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I did a non-scientific test earlier. Removed the spare tire/wheel and associated accessories. The car has seemed to balanced out and gotten rid of most of the excessive reverse rake. FYI. Did this on the hypothesis of the car sagging extra with a tow hitch.
did you take measurements to actually verify?
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:48 AM   #19816
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Posted earlier, but never posted. I did a non-scientific test earlier. Removed the spare tire/wheel and associated accessories. The car has seemed to balanced out and gotten rid of most of the excessive reverse rake. FYI. Did this on the hypothesis of the car sagging extra with a tow hitch.
I have been on the fence with this idea, though for different reasons. Like many auto manufacturers they are considering not included a spare tire with new cars in an effort to save weight and increase fuel economy. Personally I just want to offset the additions I've added in terms of weight like seat covers and in dash nav amongst others. And like you I haven't used a spare in many moons. May be worth a shot.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:04 AM   #19817
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And like you I haven't used a spare in many moons. May be worth a shot.
Ugh. I've never been in an accident, but I still wear a seatbelt, and am glad that the airbags are installed. I've never slid off the road in the winter, but I still install snow tires. I haven't had to jump start my car or anyone else's in years, but I still carry jumper cables. I've never had my floor jack fail, but I still use jack stands whenever I lift my car.

I think you get my perspective on this.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:06 AM   #19818
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From what I remember, the RA hardware is a lot better in the event your mudflap gets ripped off your car - it uses mostly plastic screws and clips, so it wont rip your whole bumper off.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:09 AM   #19819
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Ugh. I've never been in an accident, but I still wear a seatbelt, and am glad that the airbags are installed. I've never slid off the road in the winter, but I still install snow tires. I haven't had to jump start my car or anyone else's in years, but I still carry jumper cables. I've never had my floor jack fail, but I still use jack stands whenever I lift my car. I think you get my perspective on this.
It's not a safety issue like most of your examples. I hear you. Most peoples insurance has towing and all the others things one would need in if the situation arises.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:32 AM   #19820
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It's not a safety issue like most of your examples. I hear you. Most peoples insurance has towing and all the others things one would need in if the situation arises.
Point taken. Regardless, I like to be prepared for when bad things happen, even if those bad things aren't dangerous. So for me, I would never remove my spare tire to save weight, unless the car was equipped with run-flat tires.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:33 AM   #19821
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Ugh. I've never been in an accident, but I still wear a seatbelt, and am glad that the airbags are installed. I've never slid off the road in the winter, but I still install snow tires. I haven't had to jump start my car or anyone else's in years, but I still carry jumper cables. I've never had my floor jack fail, but I still use jack stands whenever I lift my car.

I think you get my perspective on this.
I'm with you. Prudence is in short supply these days.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:01 AM   #19822
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I have been on the fence with this idea, though for different reasons. Like many auto manufacturers they are considering not included a spare tire with new cars in an effort to save weight and increase fuel economy. Personally I just want to offset the additions I've added in terms of weight like seat covers and in dash nav amongst others. And like you I haven't used a spare in many moons. May be worth a shot.
I have been driving for 14 years now, and I had to change my first flat tire ever this past august because I hit something laying in the road. Fixaflat wouldn't have worked to get me going again. I'm glad it was my Buick because what I hit would have been large enough to bend a rim with a low profile tire on it

I will keep my spare aired up in my trunk in all my vehicles. I hope the next time I have to change a tire is about as long away as the first. Tires are much better than they were 30yrs ago I have been told, but if you hit something that you didn't see and dont have a spare you are hosed.

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Old 12-06-2013, 10:17 AM   #19823
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And it's not just when hitting something large in the road. It's easy to pick up a stray nail while driving in a parking lot or driveway, too.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:08 AM   #19824
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And it's not just when hitting something large in the road. It's easy to pick up a stray nail while driving in a parking lot or driveway, too.
True and I've done that, but was always able to get it fixed before I got stuck on the side of the road
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:10 PM   #19825
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I never stated any of you had to also remove your spare wheel.. I simply provided the information. haha I didn't even say I was going to leave it out.. Mostly did it as a short-term test to do some un-scientific research on removing it with cause and effect on MPG, overall response, and if it balanced the car out any.

And Flyboy, I did not get any technical measurements. But from eyeballing it, it "looks" more even. I will take a few today.
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