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Old 05-02-2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default Help me pick a 2012 mid size SUV

We are looking to trade the 2010 Mazda CX-7 in for another mid size SUV. Would like to be around the mid 20k price range. Any suggestions? So far the Equinox & Outlander look good.

What we need:

-good gas mileage
-safety
-room & comfort
-reliability


We have the 2012 WRX for the fun stuff, the SUV needs to be reliable, safe and offer good gas mileage. I've never bought a domestic vehicle before, but the Chevy does seem very nice.



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Old 05-02-2012, 12:23 PM   #2
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You should get one with 4 wheels and 4 doors. Those are sweet.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:27 PM   #3
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We bought a Toyota Highlander Hybrid.

If you can find a 2012 model or later, they get 29city/29hwy.

Pretty good for a 3 row vehicle. Skip the nav system option and put in an aftermarket one.

Other options include Honda Pilot and Acadia/Enclave/Traverse from GM.

We used to have an Acadia and loved everything about except the stereotypical GM reliability. Considered buying another one but they had gotten more expensive.

Honda is *very* very proud of the Pilot. We looked at out of warranty used ones that were more than base model new ones.

In my opinion, both Honda and Toyota are way behind the Acadia/Enclave in terms of customer oriented features.

Also....are you sure you need an SUV/CUV? If you aren't towing a boat or heavy camper you might consider a Honda Odyssey. They are great at converting from people mover to cargo. And they get better mileage than the Pilot. They are usually cheaper and are more family friendly.

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Old 05-02-2012, 12:29 PM   #4
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We are looking to trade the 2010 Mazda CX-7 in for another mid size SUV. Any suggestions? So far the Equinox & Outlander look good.



What we need:


-good gas mileage
-safety
-room & comfort
-reliability


We have the 2012 WRX for the fun stuff, the SUV needs to be reliable, safe and offer good gas mileage. I've never bought a domestic vehicle before, but the Chevy does seem very nice.



Any input is welcome!
http://www.landrover.com/us/en/rr/range-rover-evoque/

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Old 05-02-2012, 12:29 PM   #5
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:37 PM   #6
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I would cross shop Ford. They seem to be beating Chevy in basically every catagory IMO.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:40 PM   #7
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Ford Flex?
Mazda CX-5?
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:43 PM   #8
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I would cross shop Ford. They seem to be beating Chevy in basically every catagory IMO.
This. I will be buying a Ford Explorer Sport when they come out.

I would look at a Explorer before either an Equinox or an Outlander.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:50 PM   #10
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:50 PM   #11
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:50 PM   #12
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Need more info. How many kids? What sorts of activities? City or highway driving (those heavy CUVs tend to not break out of the teens in city driving)? What sort of FWD, AWD, 4WD requirements?

Lacking that, I'm going to suggest a 2.5L Outback with CVT.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:55 PM   #13
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We used to have an Acadia and loved everything about except the stereotypical GM reliability. Considered buying another one but they had gotten more expensive.
Being that my wife and I are about to pull the trigger on an Acadia what problems did you experience?

For the OP, I wasn't impressed with the Pilot. Ride quality was so-so, it was relatively noisy on the highway and the transmission was lazy. Also, no air vents for the 3rd row. Could get rather toasty back there.

If it was a touch larger we wouldn't hesitate for a second to buy an MDX. Awesome interior, drives amazingly well, etc. The only drawback is the 3rd row is useless...noticeably tighter than the Pilot (which was already small). And, like the Pilot, no air vents for those stuck in the back.

Forgot to add that we both found the interior of the Highlander kind of cheesy. I don't know, something about the design doesn't seem upscale at all with the large silver knobs and such. I guess we both expect more given its not exactly cheap.

We also looked at the Ford Explorer/Flex. Explorer looks great on the outside. Interior is also nice but there should be more space given the size of the vehicle. Getting in and out of the 2nd/3rd row was also tough due to the shape of the rear doors. The Flex feels more spacious inside and access to the 2nd/3rd row is excellent. Drives pretty well too. But I didn't care for the interior design. The plastics are a bit hard and everything is a bit "square". I guess it just matches the exterior design.

Finally, an important consideration was comfort. In the Acadia/Traverse, we both were immediately comfortable in the seats. MDX was also excellent. All the others required some adjustment but still didn't feel quite right.

So the point is, all these vehicles are nice in their own way. Find the one that suits you best. Honestly I don't really think you can make a bad choice.

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Old 05-02-2012, 01:00 PM   #14
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The CX-5 is woefully underpowered. Other than that, I really liked it.

My vote would be a 2013 Edge or 2013 Escape. Im personally waiting until either the CX-5 gets the diesel, or the 2013 Escape trickles out with the 1.6L Ecoboost motor.

Also, there is no ****ing way Id consider anything from GM.
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Need more info. How many kids? What sorts of activities? City or highway driving (those heavy CUVs tend to not break out of the teens in city driving)? What sort of FWD, AWD, 4WD requirements?

Lacking that, I'm going to suggest a 2.5L Outback with CVT.
Yep, if he doesn't need a 3rd row of seats.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:50 PM   #17
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This is going to be the wifes daily driver. I drive the WRX.

3rd row is out, nothing good in the price range. 2 kids, me and the wife.. Everyone else can find a ride elsewhere.

No more mazda, i'm already trading in a 2010, what does that tell you?

The more I think about it, the more I'm likely to buy a CR-V or perhaps a RAV4 and call it a day. The outlander is out, the interior sucks.

I want peace of mind, reliability, safety, comfort and good gas mileage. This is our practical car.
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Also, since a lot of powertrain components are shared between the CX7 and Escape, i'm not keen on Ford. I was told there is a rear main seal leak on the CX7 during my last oil change. The transmission and power delivery are not confidence inspiring on the 2.3T, I feel like something is going to break all the time.

Seriously, can you really go wrong with a CR-V or RAV4? Honda reliability, extended warranty, good to go, yah?
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Definitely a WTF on that one.

Replace CX7 with Tribute and you've got something.
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Also, since a lot of powertrain components are shared between the CX7 and Escape, i'm not keen on Ford. I was told there is a rear main seal leak on the CX7 during my last oil change. The transmission and power delivery are not confidence inspiring on the 2.3T, I feel like something is going to break all the time.

Seriously, can you really go wrong with a CR-V or RAV4? Honda reliability, extended warranty, good to go, yah?
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Definitely a WTF on that one.

Replace CX7 with Tribute and you've got something.
That was up until the 2013 refresh. The 2013 Escape is built on the Kuga platform, which is why Im interested in one.
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The CX-5 is woefully underpowered. Other than that, I really liked it.

My vote would be a 2013 Edge or 2013 Escape. Im personally waiting until either the CX-5 gets the diesel, or the 2013 Escape trickles out with the 1.6L Ecoboost motor.

Also, there is no ****ing way Id consider anything from GM.
Did you test drive it? We got one for the wife and I think it drives fine. It's a whopping 0.5seconds slower than the new CRV with 30 more hp (and the new CRV is ugly). Also, in case you weren't aware, the CX-5 is taking the spot of the CX-7 in the US, so there won't be an update on the 7.
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Did you test drive it? We got one for the wife and I think it drives fine. It's a whopping 0.5seconds slower than the new CRV with 30 more hp (and the new CRV is ugly). Also, in case you weren't aware, the CX-5 is taking the spot of the CX-7 in the US, so there won't be an update on the 7.
Yeah, I did. Although, I wouldnt mind another test drive.

Which trim level did you guys get? The Mazda Motorsports pricing is fairly attractive, which would be one thing to sway me towards the CX-5.
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