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Old 02-11-2011, 09:58 AM   #1
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Last fall, after an outcry from enthusiasts, Audi confirmed it would bring its top-spec TT coupe to the U.S. But so far, weve heard little about what content our version of the TT RS will have. We cornered an Audi spokesperson at the 2011 Chicago auto show, where the TT RS made its quiet U.S. debut, and forced them to cough up some details. (Okay, it was a little easier than that.)

The European version that we sampled almost two years ago made 340 hp from its turbocharged 2.5-liter five-cylinder engine. Much to our surprise and thrill, Audi says its pushing for U.S. cars to make about 20 more ponies for a total of around 360 hp. We asked where the extra power is coming from and were told its mainly from ECU tuning, so presumably the Euro cars could be updated as well. Our RS will also come equipped only with a six-speed manual transmission, and little else is changed from the overseas edition. We wont, however, be getting the available Recaro seats. No big surprise there.




Only a few options will be offered on the limited run of less than 1000 cars. As of now, an exterior package featuring silver accents on the lower front and rear valance (matching the mirror caps) is planned, as is a Titanium pack bundling a blacked-out grille and trim with titanium-colored wheels, much like what is currently available on the A4, A5, S4, and S5. A sport exhaust option will provide a rowdier note from that already sweet sounding five. Those not in favor of the RSs rear spoiler can opt for a factory delete.




The TT RS coupe will arrive by the end of this summer as a 2012 model. Like many of these details, pricing is yet to be finalized, but expect to pay a base price in the low-$60K range, that is if you can get your hands on one.
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:23 AM   #2
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Nice... but it better go toe to toe with the Boxter Spyder for that price.

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Old 02-11-2011, 10:51 AM   #3
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I think I would rather get a Cayman S. But I hope they sell like hotcakes so Audi will consider bringing more S and RS models over.
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:48 PM   #4
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The TT is a damn fine looking automobile these days.
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:48 PM   #5
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For that money I'd rather get the roomier and more luxurious S5, thanks, almost the same hp and almost $10K cheaper.
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:34 PM   #6
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This should be MY car, in terms of body format.

But I can't get over the price. It is hugely expensive.

A5 is big, and kinda heavy for it's size, but I would still enjoy one, and it still has a longitudinal drivetrain.

The TT is transverse, which means it has Haldex branded as Quattro, not the same as the A4/5, A6, and A8 quattro longitudinal system, more similar to Subaru's driveline.

The TT is sleek above the belt line, but too round on the front and back... nowhere even CLOSE to as slick and sharp as the R8.

I could overlook the soft-ish curves, and the transverse driveline, if it were a SCREAMING deal. As in less expensive than an A5 or S5 respectively for a TT or TT-S. If the TT were positioned as a fastback coupe version of the A3, which shares most of it's transverse layout parts, along with VW 4-motion cars.

If I could get a TT for Legacy money, even if it was slightly more than WRX money, maybe even a bit less outright performance than a WRX STI... I would consider it.

More expensive than an STI? Not a chance. The interior might be better, and more option content... but the driveline is not superior, nor is the performance on the TT-S, and the TT-RS is almost DOUBLE the price of an STI. You have to be kidding me.

If they build the Quattro Sport along side the TT-RS, at the same price points, and between the S5 and RS5... what would be the point of having 3 coupes between 50 and 100K?

TT is an art-car and made for people who want to look cultured.

But I would buy a technically superior Cayman S WAY before a TT-RS, even if I would have to give up the AWD... I'd buy a lightly used Carrera 4S for the AWD instead of the TT-RS.

I hope they don't make the same mistake with the theoretical mid-transverse R4 companion to the VW Bluesport or whatever they call that when it comes to market.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:13 PM   #7
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Pricing is no surprise seeing as the RS5 is @ an $80k MSRP, and the TT-S is below $50k.

Given VAG's plans for global domination in the next 8 years, there's room for an RS3 to come stateside. It will be in the next 12-18months as a limited run model between $45k & $50k. The next A3 will be here in 2013 and include a sedan bodystyle, expect it to be sized about the same as the old & beloved B6 A4.

Having driven the S model line, I'd take a $50k V8 powered S5 with a manual transmission while they still exist.
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But I would buy a technically superior Cayman S WAY before a TT-RS, even if I would have to give up the AWD... I'd buy a lightly used Carrera 4S for the AWD instead of the TT-RS.
But equipping the Cayman S similarly to the TT RS gets the price above $70,000. Audi has nothing on Porsche for ripping you on the options list. Likewise the lightly used Porsche Carrera is going to be priced above the RS.

I'm switching to a new TT-S at the end of the month. Hopefully the mountains of snow around here will be receding by that time. And after I get some miles on the car I'm going for an ECU reflash, which will get both the torque and hp up to around 320.
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But equipping the Cayman S similarly to the TT RS gets the price above $70,000. Audi has nothing on Porsche for ripping you on the options list. Likewise the lightly used Porsche Carrera is going to be priced above the RS.

I'm switching to a new TT-S at the end of the month. Hopefully the mountains of snow around here will be receding by that time. And after I get some miles on the car I'm going for an ECU reflash, which will get both the torque and hp up to around 320.
The TT-S is fun! Its the one car I tried paddle shifters in and liked (tangent...new Katy Perry song..."I Paddle Shifted and I liked it"). Will be even better with a tune (just costs $$$$).
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:26 PM   #10
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The TT-S is fun! Its the one car I tried paddle shifters in and liked (tangent...new Katy Perry song..."I Paddle Shifted and I liked it"). Will be even better with a tune (just costs $$$$).
I managed to find one to test drive last November... they're pretty rare around here. Anyhow the DSG seemed to be a nice match for the TT-S. I'm getting the car at a great price, since I'm on the Audi Sucker list. I've read that with the reflash the TT-S does the quarter in the mid 12s.

It's just too bad you can't buy one in this country with a nice six speed manual, like the very nice six in the STI (or the TT RS).
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:06 PM   #11
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Overpriced and too slow. Cayman S or M3 over this day or night..
Unless you are a girl or a successful gay hairdresser..
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:14 PM   #12
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Nice... but it better go toe to toe with the Boxter Spyder for that price.
Wow. How is this competing with any Boxster, let alone the Spyder version which have no creature comforts?
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:22 PM   #13
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This Audi TT will underperform the competition like usual.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:41 PM   #14
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This Audi TTRs is going to be hot. It is claimed the "baby" R8 in a video comparison. Of course it's gonna be expensive. It's premium quality and exclusivity.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:56 PM   #15
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seems like a cool car, but I am in agreement that I would search for a smoking deal on a cayman S first. I do realize it is not an apples to apples comparison however.
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Tough room.

I love it.

What's not to like about a 2dr hatch with AWD, a 6 speed MANUAL(for all the hairy chested types in here), and a turbo 5 cylinder with forged pistons?

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Old 02-11-2011, 10:21 PM   #17
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What's not to like about a 2dr hatch with AWD, a 6 speed MANUAL(for all the hairy chested types in here), and a turbo 5 cylinder with forged pistons?
That its only 360hp. 5-6 years ago sure, 2011/2 not enough
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:46 PM   #18
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That its only 360hp. 5-6 years ago sure, 2011/2 not enough
Oh good grief... the car weighs in around 3200 pounds. I'm thinking that 360hp outta get the job done With the DSG it's rated by Audi to hit 100 kpm in 4.3 seconds.
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Tough room.

I love it.

What's not to like about a 2dr hatch with AWD, a 6 speed MANUAL(for all the hairy chested types in here), and a turbo 5 cylinder with forged pistons?
The fact that it is 2-3 times the price of what it should be.

Subaru could build an STI to nearly match those specs, and it would probably out-perform the TT-S, if not the TT-RS.

...if they simply would put a robust STI drivetrain (fix the ring-land issues and shortcuts that they've taken), almost AS IS, in a 3-door fastback coupe body, for 35K, not nearly 65K.

The only things it would not match or beat Audi on would maybe be just a bit less stock horsepower for warranty considerations on a 4-cylinder, rather than a rarer 5-cylinder in the RS version, and it probably wouldn't match the interior finish quality of a 60K Audi.

And it would have better AWD out of the box, compared to this haldex car.
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I've seen the TTRS in person with the RECAROs and it is very aggressive looking.

You guys that are comparing it to the STI are nuts, apples to oranges. The standard TT's interior is so nice that they use 80% for the R8 interior. I've leased 3 TT's over the years and they are nice but were on the softer end of the spectrum. This new one looks like it will give the Cayman S a run for the money.

Let's see what they can actually do before we declare the car a looser.
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The fact that it is 2-3 times the price of what it should be.
So you're saying this particular Audi should cost $20k to $30k. Ok.

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Subaru could build an STI to nearly match those specs, and it would probably out-perform the TT-S, if not the TT-RS.
Stop daydreaming. Subaru doesn't, and probably won't. Believe me, I'd be the first on line if they did.

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...if they simply would put a robust STI drivetrain (fix the ring-land issues and shortcuts that they've taken), almost AS IS, in a 3-door fastback coupe body, for 35K, not nearly 65K.
I lost you here.

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The only things it would not match or beat Audi on would maybe be just a bit less stock horsepower for warranty considerations on a 4-cylinder, rather than a rarer 5-cylinder in the RS version, and it probably wouldn't match the interior finish quality of a 60K Audi.
Nothing really pars Audi when it comes to interior design.

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And it would have better AWD out of the box, compared to this haldex car.
I do not like Haldex, but I have to say that it does handle a LOT of torque.

I would also like to stress this:





A lot of people in here like to yell and scream about Car 'Y' costing 'x' amount of dollars. Know how far your dollar gets you first, globally.

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So you're saying this particular Audi should cost $20k to $30k. Ok.

I think he was talking about the base TT.
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Looks beautiful and I'm sure it's performance is staggering. Little pricey however, I think if it were the low cost alternative to the m3 it would be perfect. Something in the low 50s.
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The fact that it is 2-3 times the price of what it should be.
I hope someday you realize the fantasy world you are waiting for will never happen. That or you leave this forum and do your bitching elsewhere.
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Looks beautiful and I'm sure it's performance is staggering. Little pricey however, I think if it were the low cost alternative to the m3 it would be perfect. Something in the low 50s.
Indeed it is a little pricey but you can pick up a TTS for around $45,000 and do an APR Stage 1 reflash which will get you into M3 territory.
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