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Old 02-27-2011, 07:16 PM   #176
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Can we get a separate forum for the FFR WRX kit? I would love for NASIOC to be the "home forum" for this kit. There is soooo much knowledge here already it would be a shame to waste it and dilute this forum by pulling people away instead of adding more people. I know that having all those mustang experts on the Cobra Forum made everybodies kits 100% better than they would have been.
The FF forum is the real forum for the FF roadster. This forum is for Subarus, no?

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Old 02-27-2011, 10:22 PM   #177
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Can we get a separate forum for the FFR WRX kit? I would love for NASIOC to be the "home forum" for this kit. There is soooo much knowledge here already it would be a shame to waste it and dilute this forum by pulling people away instead of adding more people. I know that having all those mustang experts on the Cobra Forum made everybodies kits 100% better than they would have been.
If the demand becomes enough I am sure Nick (owner of NASIOC.com) will make it happen.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:06 AM   #178
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It would be great to have a top level forum for the new car along side the Impreza, Legacy, etc forums.

The most popular location will probably be on the new Factory Five forums however. They've got a subforum setup for the new design.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:14 AM   #179
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Can we get a separate forum for the FFR WRX kit? I would love for NASIOC to be the "home forum" for this kit. There is soooo much knowledge here already it would be a shame to waste it and dilute this forum by pulling people away instead of adding more people. I know that having all those mustang experts on the Cobra Forum made everybodies kits 100% better than they would have been.
Right after the Porscharu Forum and the Subaru Powered Kit Plane forum...
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:53 PM   #180
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The FF forum is the real forum for the FF roadster. This forum is for Subarus, no?

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The Factory Five forum is brand new this month. No one knows whether or not it will catch on. The official Forum for the Factory Five Roadster is Cobra Forum and Stang.net and has been for over 10 years. Those forums benefited heavily for a decade by allowing kit folk to join and share info and builds. Many folks (such as myself) soon became mustang gurus (I've had nine mustangs so far) and gained a real appreciation for the donor car through the mustang based forums.

P.S. There are like 20 subaru powered kit planes. There are over 8000 Factory Five Cobras and this kit is less expensive with better perfomance.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:13 PM   #181
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The official Forum for the Factory Five Roadster is Cobra Forum and Stang.net and has been for over 10 years. Those forums benefited heavily for a decade by allowing kit folk to join and share info and builds.
This. Which is while I"m sure they'll allow a sub-forum in due time.

However, if you tell KC he's wrong, he'll put you on his ignore list. Watch it!
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:55 AM   #182
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The design contest "details" are out. It turns out they are not looking for a fleshed out design but rather just a concept sketch. As such, there really aren't any details at all, just the dimensions of the wheel base. The good news is Dave did say:

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http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/design/

I'll save you the suspense, the "design templates" are just orthographic views of 4 wheels with the wheelbase and track dimensions.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:04 AM   #183
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There is a subforum on the new (official) Factory Five Forum site specifically for this.

Factory Five's Next Design: Subaru WRX-based sports car
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/forum...-s-Next-Design
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:41 AM   #184
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Aiming to show the car at SEMA in November. Don't know what that means in terms of buying kit, maybe summer 2012?
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:12 AM   #185
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Aiming to show the car at SEMA in November. Don't know what that means in terms of buying kit, maybe summer 2012?
Dave didn't want to make any promises, but if I remember correctly, he said somewhere on the new FFR forum that best case would be a late 2011 release, so early to mid 2012 sounds reasonable.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:08 PM   #186
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I'm kinda surprised nobody is talking about entering the design contest to win $5000 and immortal glory.

Surely some folks would like to influence what the car is going to look like, no?
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:22 PM   #187
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Thinking back to the cars I doodled as a kid, I will not be entering any design competitions . Not that I don't think it would be amazingly cool to say I designed a car. Sadly, Pininfarina or someone could probably win it just by sketching up something in 15 minutes, that is, if they want a little extra "glory". Maybe I should call them and tell them xyz competitor of theirs told me personally that he would be putting in an entry...


on further thought, will this vehicle have to comply with the same dimension restrictions that government puts on production cars (like headlight heights and such)?
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:38 PM   #188
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I'm kinda surprised nobody is talking about entering the design contest to win $5000 and immortal glory.

Surely some folks would like to influence what the car is going to look like, no?
I'm going to enter.. but I'm not expecting what I submit to spend more than 3 seconds in front of someone before thrown in the bin.. just like thousands of other submissions.

When they released the info the other day and said that even though they'd spent 2 years working on this plan.. they were only giving us 4 wheels to go by.. I lost some interest. The chance of penning something copacetic with what they have in mind is pretty low.
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:05 PM   #189
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This is my intro sketch I submitted earlier. If people are interested, i will post my progress on here of building it all the way from sketch to 3D rendering.

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Old 03-03-2011, 06:15 PM   #190
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Did you scale the driver for 1/12th? I'm not sure, but those wheels would have to be pretty large for that to be in scale.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:29 PM   #191
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Well those are wheels and tires together, I think it looks about right. Timmy, I really like that.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:48 PM   #192
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Did you scale the driver for 1/12th? I'm not sure, but those wheels would have to be pretty large for that to be in scale.
The sketch is an exact overlay of the dimensions given to the entrants.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:53 PM   #193
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im thinking they should have added where the block and tranny are going to sit to help entrants out just a little bit, i get the idea that the driver position will have to be a wee bit more forward than this.

it looks sweet though.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:03 PM   #194
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Judging by what I'm seeing from the forums, they have all the technical aspects worked out or working out. The contest is to get close to the look of what they want. BUT I intend on keeping up with it and making adjustments as well as making more views. I will also be making a 3D SolidWorks rendering. Thanks for the input guys. You can't please everyone, but I am not a noob to criticism, so please tell me if you think something looks wrong.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:39 PM   #195
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+1 to Timmy. Somebody from NASIOC just has to win the design.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:46 PM   #196
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im thinking they should have added where the block and tranny are going to sit to help entrants out just a little bit, i get the idea that the driver position will have to be a wee bit more forward than this.

it looks sweet though.
They added a driver/engine/tranny to the templates early today and said not to worry about the suspension becuase it will be LOWWWW.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:49 PM   #197
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There is a subforum on the new (official) Factory Five Forum site specifically for this.

Factory Five's Next Design: Subaru WRX-based sports car
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/forum...-s-Next-Design
Yes, Factory Five does have a subforum for their own car. But the "build" forums for their cars are all on other forums. The Factory Five forum is only a few weeks old. I don't know if everybody is planning on jumping over to thier for thier builds or not yet.
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:32 PM   #198
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the more I think about this, the more a sub-2,000 lb mid-engine subaru makes sense. Too bad subaru doesn't have the guts to make it and Toyota is pushing them to a front-engine, RWD design, and Porsche already has the Cayman. Buy hey, it's now at the top of my most-wanted list. Please someone make a good design for it, or I'll have to start saving up $ for the new Alfa 4C when it comes out.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:03 PM   #199
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Dave didn't want to make any promises, but if I remember correctly, he said somewhere on the new FFR forum that best case would be a late 2011 release, so early to mid 2012 sounds reasonable.

That time-line works for me. My car will be 10 years old in December (original owner) and it's replacement time for the mechanically sound yet expensive to operate 02' WRX

I have two options at this point and I desperately hope I like the FFR design and can go with A.
A. Buy a $20k daily driver and the FFR Kit and hope the build goes smoothly. I get fun and economical
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B. Sell the WRX and buy a semi-sporty yet cost efficient $40k car that I keep for 10 years. Sounds bland

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This is my intro sketch I submitted earlier. If people are interested, i will post my progress on here of building it all the way from sketch to 3D rendering.


Nice, I saw it over on the FFR forum earlier and thought it was a good start. Please continue posting your progress here. I'm all for a nasioc native winning the contest.
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That time-line works for me. My car will be 10 years old in December (original owner) and it's replacement time for the mechanically sound yet expensive to operate 02' WRX

I have two options at this point and I desperately hope I like the FFR design and can go with A.
A. Buy a $20k daily driver and the FFR Kit and hope the build goes smoothly. I get fun and economical
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B. Sell the WRX and buy a semi-sporty yet cost efficient $40k car that I keep for 10 years. Sounds bland
Maybe you should consider something used. Unless I've got money to burn or there's something I just have to have, I don't see myself buying a new car ever again. I'd rather get something with 30k or more on it and save 25-50%. You can get plenty of used fun stuff for $20k.
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