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Old 07-12-2002, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default Rotors vs. Pads wear Question: Help a n00b!

Hey! My friend is having a bit of a problem with his VW and I'm hoping someone can answer a simple brakes question. He's a total car n00b and I'm just relating what he's told me that the dealer has told him.

So when he took it in for the 30k service, they told him his pads were at 30% remaining. Then at 35k service they said there was 40%remaining. I've seen the dated service receipts, and that seems to be a very fishy thing.

Yesterday (just turned over 40k miles), his brakes started "grinding" and he took it to the same dealer. They say that all of his rotors are grooved and need replacing...and that there is only 8% of the pad left. Ca-ching, $1500 job.

He asked how the rotors can wear out so fast...and the service persons response was...VW makes their rotors out of a softer material that wears faster. All of this sounds really fishy.

Anyway I guess I'm just looking for a guide to rotor replacement for a standard commuter car.
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Old 07-12-2002, 02:51 PM   #2
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Pads generally wear faster than rotors. It's kind of weird that they would tell you that there's 30% the first time and then 40% the next time. I would take it to another dealer or even Midas and ask them for a second opinion. If the car is no longer under warranty, just replace the rotors and pads yourself. Rotors should only cost between $50-100 each and the pads vary depending on what you want, but generally no more than $80 for a pair. So you're looking at around $550 for parts.

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Old 07-12-2002, 02:53 PM   #3
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Thanks...that's what I thought...they seem like a shifty place...

How long should rotors last?

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Old 07-12-2002, 02:57 PM   #4
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Depends on how you drive. I know some people who never had to replace their rotors. Most people end up replacing them around 80,000 miles or so. Also depends on whether or not you damaged them. I hit a big pothole once and it locked my brake caliper and warped the rotor. Many different variables. The main point is that if the place seems a little shady, then get a second opinion. You can also do the measurements yourself with a caliper. Just measure the inside and outside of the rotor from center to see how much material is left on there. You can just do a visual inspection of the pads by looking at them. The specs should be in the owner's manual or on the inspection sheet that the dealer should have given you.

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Old 07-12-2002, 04:24 PM   #5
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$1500 to replace rotors and pads? Yikes, that alone is a ripoff. let alone the other stuff.

Take it to meineke and see if they can turn the rotors for a hundred bucks or so, or if not, he should be able to get good rotors for a couple hundred bucks a pair. It's not that hard a job to replace 'em.
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Old 07-12-2002, 04:36 PM   #6
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Yesterday (just turned over 40k miles), his brakes started "grinding" and he took it to the same dealer. They say that all of his rotors are grooved and need replacing...and that there is only 8% of the pad left. Ca-ching, $1500 job.
holy crap $1500 for rotors and pads
never ever ever go back to that place again
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Old 07-14-2002, 04:39 PM   #7
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Rotors for European cars do wear quicker than what is considered normal. The iron has a higher carbon content for noise damping and for heat dissapation, the compromise is wear.

Try buying an aftermarket rotor, locally made or brembo.

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