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Why only VW has even tried mainstream priced diesels in the US remains a mystery to me; is there some kind of arrangement all the other manufacturers have among themselves to not make their cars available?
The new Passat diesel claims 800 miles to the tank; I've love to try it on my Chicago to Denver run. The Subaru needs refueling three times on the average trip. |
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Well all clean diesel technology funding from our government is halted according to the new proposed budget. It is this lack of support that would stifle any automakers into venturing into this market. The white house butt clowns are intent on forcing electric car and ONLY electric cars onto us. The inconvenient truth is Diesels offer a far better improvement for the foreseeable future
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Scooby Specialist
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Location: where GW crossed the Delaware
Vehicle:05 FXT 70 911T |
Please forward this article to the White House press corps.
Full disclosure: for the last month I've been trying to convince myself that replacing my FXT with a CPO 08-09 E320 Bluetec would make sense. Not sure that I have, however. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: North NJ
Vehicle:2005 WRX CGM |
Diesel cars never seem to sell good in the US thats why other companies don't want to jump into a segment that has always failed to sell well.
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 873
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Location: Just outside of Houston TX
Vehicle:2013 Golf R 1971 240Z |
Why not give 7500 dollars incentive on them, like they do no the GM failboat Volt. That would help.
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Scooby Specialist
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Forget MPG, the drive above works out to 16.25 miles per DOLLAR at current exchange rates. That is unreal, especially in mixed driving conditions...just imagine if diesel was cheaper.
-Mike. |
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Location: LITH, IL
Vehicle:2007 White STI LTD Grey Mazda 5 |
I'll take a diesel please. As long as it's of Japanese manufacture, I'm not really interested in getting an unreliable European car...
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Japanese don't diesel.
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This was 'epic'? long sure...but shouldn't epic involve some kind of jerry bruckheimer ish?
Oh of course, because NOBODY in europe builds a decent diesel and NOBODY in japan has ever built a lemon... |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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US fuel taxes are high on diesel (to tax truckers)
Until recently, US diesel was crappy compared to EU, so the motors would need big changes. Fuel costs have only recently put any emphasis on MPG. Companies have only imported odd diesels that come with autos as well as manuals. |
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Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Wagon Already a classic !!!!!! |
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...cell-plan.html Last edited by rexster; 02-15-2011 at 08:30 PM. |
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Sustainability and reliability are carefully balanced to maximize profit. Safety, efficiency, eco-friendliness only enter the equation because government forces the issue. Anyway, there was a tax break for clean diesels for a while. It went away after X-amount of cars were sold. It's pretty much the exact same thing as the hybrid incentive a few years back, that went away too. No need to blow a gasket. The only thing holding VW back from selling a boatload of diesel cars is their reliability record, not the lack of incentives. |
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Because they are the only European maker of economy cars that also sells a lot of cars in the US. European companies already have the engines, so its not a huge deal to also sell them here. I just wish Subaru would bring its diesel to the US
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diesels are awesome. Obama administrations are wrong for cutting diesel incentives..
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So, some may or may not like government intervention, but we have to recognize that it delivers pretty good thing once in a while. |
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Ford and GM have access to small diesel engines from european market, but for some reason they chose not to bring them here. Same with BMW, they won't bring 4 cylinder.
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It is okay to have a leader that is clueless as long as he knows that and he surrounds himself with smart people. It is far more dangerous to have a clueless leader that thinks he is smart. If he is going to force draconian CAFE standards on us, at least let the market pick the winner. Do what others have said. Spread out the incentives to ANY car getting X mpg figures. Do not cherry pick electrics and hybrids. In almost every way, a good diesel would win. |
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Scooby Specialist
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Join Date: Jun 2001
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Vehicle:2013 BRZ WRB |
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Obama didn't invent CAFE, it came from congress in the 70s during the oil embargo. As "evil" as you think it is, it's quite a good program for the most part. I'm not a big fan of the massive US -> Middle East wealth transfer for luxury's sake. Nevertheless, it was actually President Bush that signed in the increased cafe standards that you're bitching about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_...ty_Act_of_2007 |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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