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Old 02-21-2011, 05:17 AM   #1
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Audi has issued these early sketches of a 408bhp, turbocharged, 2.5-litre five-cylinder A3-based saloon concept that will make its world debut at next week's Geneva motor show.
The new four-door, the existence of which was revealed by Autocar last year, previews an upcoming fourth variant of the A3 that Ingolstadt sources confirm will form part of a third-generation line-up due out in 2012. The range is also set to include similarly styled successors to today’s popular three-door hatchback, five-door Sportback and two-door cabriolet.
See the sketches of Audi's new A3 saloon concept
Conceived along similar lines to parent company Volkswagen’s latest Jetta and described as a spiritual successor to the original Audi 80, the new A3 variant is being looked upon to boost Audi sales in markets such as North America, China and Russia, where saloon body styles are traditionally favoured over hatchbacks.
“We’ve looked at the situation very carefully and come to the conclusion that a small sedan (saloon) positioned below the A4 has the potential to significantly increase sales penetration in a number of markets,” an Audi official told Autocar.
Drawing on Audi’s latest design lineage - as seen on the A8 and more recent A6 - the A3 saloon concept gets the German car maker’s prominent six-corner, single-frame grille, along with angular headlamps carrying complex LED internal graphics. Its tautly drawn body features a high waistline and relatively shallow glasshouse, as well as a sloping boot deck and horizontal tail lamps that are both similar in style to those gracing the A7.
At 4440mm in length, the new A3 concept is 188mm shorter than the Jetta and 260mm shorter than the Audi A4 saloon, which stretches to 4700mm. The upcoming production version of the new four-door is expected to retain the same dimensions.
As well as previewing the svelte styling of the upcoming A3 saloon, Audi’s latest concept also provides the best clues yet to parent company Volkswagen’s new MQB platform. Developed to replace the existing PQ36 structure, the MQB is set to provide the basis for a wide range of front and four-wheel-drive models, the first of which will be the third-generation A3.
Powering Audi’s latest concept is the same turbocharged 2.5-litre in-line five-cylinder used in the Quattro concept that the firm revealed at last year’s Paris motor show. With 408bhp on tap, it hints towards a sedan version of the second-generation RS3 that's tentatively due to join the Audi line-up in 2015.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:16 AM   #2
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Great drawings. It's funny how BMW's flame-surface design elements were so outright hated, early on, but now so many people are using it.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:32 AM   #3
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Want a 408hp A3. Oh wait, we'll never see that. Have to settle for a current-gen RS3, oh wait, we're not getting that either. S-4 Avant it is, oh wait...
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:27 PM   #4
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Want a 408hp A3. Oh wait, we'll never see that. Have to settle for a current-gen RS3, oh wait, we're not getting that either. S-4 Avant it is, oh wait...
The only way Audi would get the message that people want those models in NA is if their customers stopped buying their current models, and told them, "I'm not buying another Audi because you don't offer what I am looking for." That is not happening since Audi sales in NA are just fine the way their line-up stands now.

North America only accounts for approximately 10% of global Audi sales and (despite the people on this board saying otherwise) it would never be profitable for Audi to make these performance models viable for the NA market - there simply aren't enough people out there who want an RS3, RS4, RS6 (I'm not saying they're not great cars - they are, but most people don't want to pay $100, 000 for a fire-breathing 500hp upscale wagon RS6 Avant).
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:05 PM   #5
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Well, they DID sell the S4 Avant and the RS models here, before, but as you said, the US is a minority share for them, so... ditching what sold the least, I guess made financial sense.

But on the other hand, I often wonder if the bean counters have TOO much say, these days. Would having a car available by special order, truly cost them so much more?
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:50 PM   #6
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kind of looks like an updated version of the late 90's A4 sedan. not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:06 PM   #7
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Well, they DID sell the S4 Avant and the RS models here, before, but as you said, the US is a minority share for them, so... ditching what sold the least, I guess made financial sense.

But on the other hand, I often wonder if the bean counters have TOO much say, these days. Would having a car available by special order, truly cost them so much more?
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:59 PM   #8
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I'm looking forward to the next A3. I hope it's about the size of the Impreza and BL/BP Legacy. The only thing that scares me is the new dopple-blocken or double bokken modular thing. An all new design is bad enough, but a whole new way of building cars modular style really scares me. They should build the Golf on it first, those customers are used to having problems...
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Well, they DID sell the S4 Avant and the RS models here, before, but as you said, the US is a minority share for them, so... ditching what sold the least, I guess made financial sense.

But on the other hand, I often wonder if the bean counters have TOO much say, these days. Would having a car available by special order, truly cost them so much more?
Yes, it costs a lot to get a car certified for the US market... US has one of the toughest standards to meet and is the reason why so many limited run cars never make it here.
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It's not much tougher, it's just different enough so you have to re-do everything just for one market. A very clever way to keep real competition out, and encourage manufacturers to set up factories in the US to build cars just for our market. BMW, Honda, Hyundai, Mercedes, Toyota, VW and so on.
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The new A3 will be certified here (likely for sale with the 2.0T and TDi). This appears to be an A3 with a better engine, which will also be here in the TT-RS. I don't know the US standards, but it doesn't seem like that should be so hard.
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Here's some pics from Geneva. This car has potential...

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/audi-...t-geneva-2011/
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Finally a golf I like
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That is pure win, 400hp, 3395lbs, AWD and is a notchback like my old 92 Escort, sign me up!
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Audi has released three sketches of the next A3, including one previewing the saloon version, shown in concept form at last month’s Geneva motor show.
The sketches reveal an evolutionary look for the three-door version of Audi’s second best-selling model but it’s expected to have crisper edges and a slightly more angular look than the current model.
An interior preview shows a more pared back, simple cabin than has been traditional with Audis to date, and it’s expected to have the option of high-tech features from the more expensive saloons in the range; including the MMI system and a large, ultra-thin pop-up screen for the infotainment systems.
See the official sketches of the new Audi A3
The saloon is arriving after the three and five-door versions and is intended primarily for the US and Chinese markets, but it will go on sale in the UK sometime in 2012. It’s built on a 2630mm wheelbase, 35mm longer than the three-door, and is also wider and lower and is believed to be almost identical in size to the original A4 saloon.
Audi insiders claim that it is expected to steal some sales from the current A4 too, but it will have enough differentiation to pick up plenty of new customers – especially in the US.
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Engineering sources are also claiming that the new generation of A3 will eventually have a large number of drivetrain options. Hybrid, plug-in hybrid and natural gas versions are planned, as well as a possible full electric version. It will also be available with most of the petrol and diesel engines in the current line-up.
The real thing is expected to be first shown in three door form at next year’s Geneva show. The five door and saloon will follow, as will a soft-top version.
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