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Old 02-25-2011, 01:34 PM   #26
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If I see one local at msrp, I am going to grap it. After some time if I am not in love I will flip it for cost..
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:51 PM   #27
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It's been a long time since I've wanted a car as much as I want a Boss 302. The only thing that bothers me is Ford artificially constraining supply. I wish they'd tune supply so I can buy one at MSRP and not a dollar more.
I'm sure they'll exceed their "limit" as they've done so in the past if there is demand.
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Old 02-25-2011, 04:02 PM   #28
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It's been a long time since I've wanted a car as much as I want a Boss 302. The only thing that bothers me is Ford artificially constraining supply. I wish they'd tune supply so I can buy one at MSRP and not a dollar more.
Be patient and wait until the end of the year, you will be able to get one well under MSRP if you search around for a dealer that has one in stock.

They will make many more than they are saying if demand is high.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:57 PM   #29
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It's been a long time since I've wanted a car as much as I want a Boss 302. The only thing that bothers me is Ford artificially constraining supply. I wish they'd tune supply so I can buy one at MSRP and not a dollar more.
I'm sure around this time next year you'll be able to get one for MSRP no problem. I've read that this will be in production for at least 2 years and that Ford will adjust production based on sales. It's always the people that have to have it first that get hosed. That pretty much goes for any hot new product.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:46 AM   #30
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If I see one local at msrp, I am going to grap it. After some time if I am not in love I will flip it for cost..
People tried that with 07 GT500 especially the KR and SuperSnake.... and they all lost $$.
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:27 PM   #31
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Actually the article said it was a street legal splitter.

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Time to try the “Laguna Seca” edition 302. This costs $47,150 against the standard car’s $40,140. You get a shocking aero package with a street-illegal splitter, bigger wheels, Lamborgini-OEM R-comp tires, a Torsen diff, brake scoops, and an underbody transmission cooling scoop that is certain to be shorn off by a racetrack curb somewhere. The back seat is gone, replaced by a contrast-color X-brace. This car is almost obscene-looking in its aggression. I love it.
Apparently you and I have a different definition of legal and illegal
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:40 PM   #32
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This makes more sense to me than the GT500. Still would have a hard time buying one over a 32k GT, unless I lived next to a track.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:31 PM   #33
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This makes more sense to me than the GT500. Still would have a hard time buying one over a 32k GT, unless I lived next to a track.
Nah the Boss is much better then a GT. It is so much better, enough for 11 GT owners to weep and trade.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:22 PM   #34
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Nah the Boss is much better then a GT. It is so much better, enough for 11 GT owners to weep and trade.

I beg to differ.

#1. Have fun trying to find one to buy, period.

#2. If you can even find one, enjoy the $5k-$10k markup.

#3. Most if not all of the Boss bits will be available direct from FRPP on the aftermarket.

I'd save money by purchasing the Boss parts that I wanted and not buying the ones I didn't want versus buying the actual Boss. Sure, it's hard to buy the obnoxious paint job or the gimmicky track key, but I'm not going to miss them either.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:04 AM   #35
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We barely let the engine cool after the drive down from Monterey before rolling into MD Automotive in Westminster, California and strapping the 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 to its Dynojet chassis dyno.
Ford claims the Boss produces 444 hp at 7,500 rpm and 380 lb-ft of torque at 4,500 rpm -- a substantial horsepower gain over the stock 5.0 GT's 412 hp at 6,500 rpm and 390 lb-ft at 4,250 rpm. Ford reengineered just about every piece of the Boss 302's engine so the gain should be substantial. And it is.
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A careful look at the Boss' power trace shows it making power all the way past redline. In fact, the fuel cut appears to be about 7,700 rpm -- an astonishing speed for a V8 this size. With coolant and oil temps stabilized, we saw three runs within five peak horsepower of one another. And when you're talking about 415 hp, that's pretty much dead consistent. The lines laid down right on top of each other.


But how big is the improvement relative to a 2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0?
Big.
Ford claims a 32-hp difference between the peak output of these engines and we measured 36 hp. Perhaps more relevant is torque, which Ford claims to be 10 lb-ft lower in the Boss. Not according to our numbers. Sure, the torque peak comes 900 rpm later, but there are two more lb-ft to be had from the higher-revving engine. Of course, at 4,350 rpm, where the GT makes peak torque, the Boss trails by about 11 lb-ft.
What the data doesn't tell you is how transformational a 900-rpm increase in peak power is between these two engines. At the GT's power peak of 6,650 rpm, the Boss is alreay making 24 additional hp. And it continues over the next 900 rpm to pour on the coals and churn out another 12 hp.



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Old 02-28-2011, 12:40 PM   #36
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im just not digging the red on black.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:02 PM   #37
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I beg to differ.

#1. Have fun trying to find one to buy, period.

#2. If you can even find one, enjoy the $5k-$10k markup.

#3. Most if not all of the Boss bits will be available direct from FRPP on the aftermarket.

I'd save money by purchasing the Boss parts that I wanted and not buying the ones I didn't want versus buying the actual Boss. Sure, it's hard to buy the obnoxious paint job or the gimmicky track key, but I'm not going to miss them either.
The Boss has collectors item written all over it. Other than that gamble, it's just another modded wrx vs. sti argument.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:31 PM   #38
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The Boss has collectors item written all over it. Other than that gamble, it's just another modded wrx vs. sti argument.
Yes, I agree. But it's rather ignorant to think that all GT owners are sitting here pining away for a Boss. Do all WRX owners wish they had an STi rather than their WRX? Nope.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:41 PM   #39
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Looking for something to do during your lunch break? Take some time out and dream about $40,995 car that you can probably put in your driveway. Ford has just launched the online configurator for the new 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 so go check it out here.


Refresher: The 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 uses the same 5.0L V8 from the 2011 GT but to achieve the high-rpm horsepower to make it competitive on the track, Ford added a new intake, revised camshafts and a more aggressive control calibration. All that results in 440-hp and 380 lb-ft of torque. Power is transmitted to the wheels through a race inspired short-throw, close-ratio six-speed manual transmission handles gear change duties.

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http://www.egmcartech.com/2011/03/09...8egmCarTech%29
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:58 PM   #40
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I'm really liking this car! I would love to experience it on a track. In fact it'd be a fun track car to run bone stock, but it wouldn't be my first choice for dedicated track car. It'd be in the top of cars I can realistically have one day, but wouldn't crack the top 10 of any-car-in-the-world for the track list (GT3 RS tops that list!)
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:27 PM   #41
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I think inside line is smoking too much of the Ford Boss crack pipe. First let me say I LOVE this car, and I think the Boss is a great deal. BUT, and with SCRAPPYDO there is always a but. The HP difference is negligible. Once you get to 400+ HP, an additional 23 hp is barely distinguishable. I would wager an intake and a nice exhaust on the stock GT would more than make up for the HP deficit. THe 7700 rpm redline is something special though! I have to give props to that. I think bang for your buck, you could take a stock GT and build your own boss for less money. At the end of the day all you have is a modded GT though. But for me it would be enough. I think the boss is one hell of a factory hot rod though.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:50 PM   #42
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Ya, if at all possible, I would love to get one, and if I move to a new job soon and all the stars allign properly for me, I may just do so. Have continued to be impressed with this car since I read about it last year.

Here's the latest article, very impressive:

http://http://www.motortrend.com/roa...est/index.html
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:53 AM   #43
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The thing that draws me to it is the aftermarket capability of this car. It has a suspension setup that's unreal in stock form and the engine isn't just a 5.0 with a few bolt ons. The 5.0 in the Boss 302 has a fully forged reciprocating assembly, CNC machined heads, a lighter valvetrain and boss-specific cams. . . They're already performing very well stock, but you're going to see these things with 5-6k in them eating up exotics in club racing and whatnot. The red key isn't even available yet and this is what they do in a straight line.

Wait until you see them with a pair of twins or a blower under the hood making 650rwhp on the stock block and ripping 1.0g on the skidpad on street tires. I just bought my sti 4 months ago and I might end up selling for one of these. They tailored perfectly to every racer.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:42 AM   #45
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:51 AM   #46
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That comparo is cool, didn't realize the 302 was so different from the GT.
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I already posted this link in the other Boss thread.....
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