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Old 12-03-2007, 08:58 AM   #1
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Default What's swapped in your car?



For the past 3 years, I have been toying with the idea of swapping my car. I have a 2003 Impreza 2.5 RS in Blue Ridge Pearl that just recently hit 31K miles. The reason its been a dilemma is two fold: A) Money. B) The fact that I have very few miles on the car. So I am looking to NASIOC for some help.

I recently spoke to Dave Brown of Metric Subaru and a representative at East Coast Swappers. These two individuals have put a lot of different offers on the table for me. For instance, I could go all out and do a full STi swap (motor,tranny,rear-diff,brakes,etc.) for more or less the cost of my car lol. At the same time, I could do as LITTLE as put a Stage II WRX motor in with 4-pots and be done with it for about half the cost of my car.

The major factor in all of this is how we all drive. According to the representative, "If you drive modestly, there won't be a problem." But he admitted that "modestly" is a very vague term and means different things to different people.

So with all this blabbering said, I basically want to know who has done a swap, on what kind of vehicle, and what did you swap in? Any advice on my quandry would also be greatly appreciated.

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Old 12-03-2007, 10:24 AM   #2
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Almost everyone who has done a swap has done it on an older car. You've got tons of resale value left on your 2003 with only 31k miles on it - you can sell it and buy a WRX and still spend a lot less than the most basic swap. Then the car will be stock and you can almost drive the snot out of it without breaking anything.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:41 AM   #3
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Well getting a used STi has definitely been something I've been toying with. I am just not THAT familiar with cars, and so I wouldn't want to buy a headache. I would buy a new WRX/STi but they are so freakin' ugly. I would also consider an XT Sports, but I just thought it would be really cool to swap an 03 RS . . . especially as it is my first car
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:13 PM   #4
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ill soon be doing a complete 06 sti swap in my 02 wrx wagon but beware
this **** is expensive!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:42 PM   #5
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ill soon be doing a complete 06 sti swap in my 02 wrx wagon but beware
this **** is expensive!!!!!!!!

how expensive is expensive? pm me if you dont want it out everywhere.

<---plans on swapping his 145000 mile wagon
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:51 PM   #6
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usually sti swaps are in the 10-14k range ...

i agree it will be much easier to sell and buy than to swap

the 04 fxt is a great car to consider
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:29 PM   #7
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'95 Legacy LSi Sedan (Sold)-
-Struts for 2003 WRX sedan(KYB GR2's)
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:49 PM   #8
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usually sti swaps are in the 10-14k range ...

i agree it will be much easier to sell and buy than to swap

the 04 fxt is a great car to consider
Yeah ECS quoted me for just the parts for 13K. and I'd be considering an 07-08 XT not an 04
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:36 PM   #9
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I had swapped a wrx motor intoa 96 brighton and I'm in the midst of a hybrid swap into a 94 impreza sedan.

I would suggest either selling your car and using the money to either buy a wrx or sti. Or keep your car pickup a cheap L and swap that leaving your RS as a daily driver.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:10 AM   #10
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I have swapped my '99 L Sport wagon. The WHOLE driveline isn't even its stock parts anymore. I've built it to my liking. Its motta, "Drives like a go-kart, but doesn't look the part."

The engine swap is a frankenstien setup. '03 WRX heads/manifold, '91 EJ22T shortblock, '02 WRX harness/ECU+Cobb AP V2, 4-1 headers, EVO3-16G-8cm^2, bellmouth DP+SPT catback, eBay TMIC, and Gimmick Turbo inlet. The WRX heads have been ported to mimick the JDM big ports. The TGV's have been taken out as well. The shortblock is left STOCK but installed NEW crank/rod bearings.

The steering colume has been upped to the one from L & E Frabrications. takes 2-2.2turns lock to lock.

I'm looking to have this built to be a FUN car. Donuts, drifts, track, gymkhana may it be.... Need to get my CUSCO tarmac center diff and a rear diff. Currently running my welded rer diff w/ my hybrid tranny setup; 44:56.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:53 PM   #11
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I would choose your second option to swap the block to a 257 or 255.

Theres no way that this would cost you 6k. 2k should suffice.

I did this on my wagon prior to my sti powertrain swap on my 02 wagon.
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Old 12-05-2007, 02:32 AM   #12
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"Drives like a go-kart, but doesn't look the part."
I think that could easily describe my wagon. although mine would be one of those carts you pay $5 for a few laps at a place where they also offer mini golf, and yours would be one you spend $50 for an hour at a place that just does carts.....



I've had my hand in a few swaps (mostly wiring....I could do yours for a fraction of the cost of ECS etc., as long as you get in line now and don't need it until July ), including my own, although I'm looking for something different out of my subaru than most owners, so have gotten a slightly different result....


in my experience. if you're going to go to the trouble of swapping a car, start with a lighter chassis (like a GC!). the #1 enemy of performance is weight, so get your money out of those ponies and start with a lighter car. also, an older impreza would be drastically cheaper. you could easily add chassis braces to regain the difference in torsional regidity and still save money. and come out ahead in the weight and money department.


also, buy a wrecked donor car, and do the swap yourself. it'll save you a crapload of time, and money.



I've got a lot of ideas, and like I said, have worked on more than a few swaps. if you'd like to talk about it some more, shoot me a pm. I'll give you my phone number and you're welcome to bounce some ideas off me.....pretty good chance I'll have some different opinions than you've heard
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:15 PM   #13
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Well, I've been doing as much research as I have time for. Coming up with a lot of different alternatives. ECS is definitely one of them.


Whose gotten work done by them? What do you think?
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:14 AM   #14
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I am swapping a JDM 1997 EJ20R run off a 1995 JDM WRX ECU into a USDM 1990 Legacy wagon. The ECU is plug and play! All I need to do is add 2 wires for the coil on plug and a MAP sensor and wire....
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Old 12-11-2007, 03:30 AM   #15
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My friend and I swapped a 93 L with a USDM WRX motor and ver. 2 drivetrain. We did about 80% of the work and it still cost a pretty penny. It's still not done, but definitely worth the headache/money/frustration/time.

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Old 12-11-2007, 08:31 AM   #16
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$13,000 just for parts? Ouch. What exactly is included for that? I'm pretty sure you can buy a low mileage STi that has been slightly crashed for around that and then pull everything you need and sell the rest to lower your final costs.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:02 PM   #17
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If you are going to go with that chasis, get the drivetrain and complete harness and drop both of them in. There is no real wiring required as everything is layed out the same. Older cars require a merge.

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Old 05-05-2011, 10:25 AM   #18
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the main reasons to swap are high mileage, & body style preference.

I would guess that it would be cheaper to sell your car and buy WRX sedan, than it would be to swap your car. If you are worried about buying someone else's troubles, get the car inspected by a reputable mechanic. An honest seller won't mind.

However, being that you have a GD RS, the swap is alot simpler, so who knows.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:32 AM   #19
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That's quite a bump. I hope he figured something out already.
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LOL 4 years later
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Old 05-05-2011, 12:40 PM   #21
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leave it to me to forget I was searching old threads and participate in a dead thread....
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:46 PM   #22
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Hahaha

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