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Old 02-27-2011, 03:43 PM   #1
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hey everyone, here is the deal. i have a 95 Legacy wagon with the outback struts "lift". i have been looking on a few forums and cant find the info i need. i am getting chevy wheels (5 on 4.5") with 235/75r15 tires. the wheels have almost a zero offset. but what i need is a place where i can get some inexpensive adapters to adapt a 5X100 hub to 5X4.5" wheel. i will even consider getting jeep wheels if i need (5X114.3) i am going for the look of lifted with wheels sticking out beyond the fenders giving it that bulldog look.
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:56 PM   #2
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FYI 5x4.5 is the same as 5x114.3

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Old 02-27-2011, 04:29 PM   #3
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^ what he said. 5x100 to 5x114.3 adapters are pretty common. they are going to be around 25mm spacers though, so your 0 offset wheels will now be -25 offset.

ebay, 25mm: http://compare.ebay.com/like/3503593...=263602_309572

ebay, 1.25" width =about 31mm: http://compare.ebay.com/like/1805742...=263602_309572

TCS, 38mm: http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product..._1mm_Bore.html
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:20 PM   #4
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Thanks guys, see you at Miller next month
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:57 PM   #5
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Just an FYI, but it would probably be cheaper to get custom Diamond racing wheels with a -25 offset than to buy spacers/adapters and wheels.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:40 PM   #6
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^^^the chevy wheels i am getting are from a junkyard, 100 bucks for wheels and the tire size i want. the tires have got maybe 3or 4 thousand left in them. i havent bought them yet but i figure i can test out the size i want and get better tires later. and then adapters are anywhere from 120 to 150 it looks like, so 250 for everything is pretty good if you ask me. les schwabb wants 75 just for one rim
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:41 PM   #7
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By the way PCSKIBUM_21
i got some pictures of your car i havent posted yet.


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Old 02-27-2011, 08:58 PM   #8
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^ woo! thanks, those are good looking. nobody ever gets a rear angle of the car haha.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:09 PM   #9
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Lol he just thread jacked his own thread.
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:35 AM   #10
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^^^the chevy wheels i am getting are from a junkyard, 100 bucks for wheels and the tire size i want. the tires have got maybe 3or 4 thousand left in them. i havent bought them yet but i figure i can test out the size i want and get better tires later. and then adapters are anywhere from 120 to 150 it looks like, so 250 for everything is pretty good if you ask me. les schwabb wants 75 just for one rim
I love it when people try to "explain" things to me... I wouldn't have posted what I did if I was at all confused. Just understand that my opinion is always the best way to go and you will be happy for the rest of your life if you do what I say.

But seriously, here goes...

1. Chevy wheels aren't 5X4.5/114.3, they are 5X4.75/120.7.

2. The adapters are about $100~$150 a PAIR! So that's $50~$75 per corner.

3. Custom made Diamond wheels are around $80 each.

4. It is going to cost you $75~$100 per corner for adapters and random wheels. And because you don't know what you are doing, they wont properly bolt up to your car.

5. For $80 per corner you can get a brand new wheel in the correct bolt pattern, exact width and proper offset.

6. Don't listen to me, I have no clue what I'm talking about.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:59 AM   #11
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6. Don't listen to me, I have no clue what I'm talking about.
damn i wish we had signatures on this site
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:23 AM   #12
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I agree however I would like to clear up a couple things, the wheels on astro vans are 5 on 5. Not 5 on 4.75 like the light trucks (I was a Chevy guy). And you can get adapters cheaper than that. But I do agree I think it would be cheaper to find some one that will drill it for him.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:57 AM   #13
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^ woo! thanks, those are good looking. nobody ever gets a rear angle of the car haha.
i wanted to get some pics of you three-wheelin it around that corner but didnt catch it.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:02 PM   #14
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I love it when people try to "explain" things to me... I wouldn't have posted what I did if I was at all confused. Just understand that my opinion is always the best way to go and you will be happy for the rest of your life if you do what I say.

But seriously, here goes...

1. Chevy wheels aren't 5X4.5/114.3, they are 5X4.75/120.7.

2. The adapters are about $100~$150 a PAIR! So that's $50~$75 per corner.

3. Custom made Diamond wheels are around $80 each.

4. It is going to cost you $75~$100 per corner for adapters and random wheels. And because you don't know what you are doing, they wont properly bolt up to your car.

5. For $80 per corner you can get a brand new wheel in the correct bolt pattern, exact width and proper offset.

6. Don't listen to me, I have no clue what I'm talking about.
oh sorry i didnt mean to just like totally blow you off but let me explain it to you.
here it goes:
1. check this. http://www.ezaccessory.com/5_Lug_Ada...rsion_s/45.htm
i guess they do make them for 150 a pair, any conversion
2. they have the tire size i want so i can test them.
3. i dont want to spend tons of money to see if i even like it.
4. i know the direction that i want to go, i do want adapters.
5. even if i was wrong about the wheel lug pattern its not like i cant buy the right adapters.
6. i do know what i am doing, so listen to me. 250.00 for all.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:03 PM   #15
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3. i dont want to spend tons of money to see if i even like it.
You wont like it, this setup will dramatically slow you down, detrimentally increase turning radius, require more fuel and put a great deal of extra load on your weak Subaru hub bearings. If you are into the ol' Rallycross, you will will probably hate it.

If you went from let's say a 195/60R15 to those 235/75R15s you will have to deal with the extra height increasing your gearing, the extra weight of the big tire and the extra rolling resistance caused by the wider width.

The overall tire height would be increase 4.7". The extra height is going to raise your final gear ratio by 20%, that will feel like 20% less power in every gear. Your car is already underpowered, losing 20% of it's mechanically aided energy will slow you down considerably. You will need to raise the considerably car to properly fit these tires without fender flares. You would also be raising the center of gravity of the car, causing even more body roll and losing traction from the inside wheels during a turn.

Tire weight alone will go up roughly 43%. Again, as your car is already underpowered adding this extra rotational weight will dramatically slow your acceleration and increase braking distance. The extra unsprung weight of the bigger tires will also affect your suspension's ability to operate properly at moderate to high speeds. Don't forget to add the extra unsprung weight from the adapters and lift kit, causing even more acceleration, suspension and braking issues.

The extra width will increase rolling resistance by over 20%, this will make it that much harder to push the car forward, slowing acceleration and increasing fuel consumption.

But, you will look way super cool all jacked up and **** while the kids on there bikes pass you.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:27 PM   #16
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^^^whatever dude, i dont even have to read the above, i found what i was looking for.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:30 PM   #17
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hahaha Why ask if you dont like the real answers?
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:53 PM   #18
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^^^whatever dude, i dont even have to read the above, i found what i was looking for.
It is defeat that you must learn to prepare for...
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:07 PM   #19
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dude, you are so full of yourself, you dont know everything, post somewhere else if you wanna B****. i know what i want i was just trying to get a little info on where to get adapters is all
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you dont know everything
I know how to use Google and type in "wheel adapters". That puts me WAY ahead of the OP.
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I gotta say lil biggie I've noticed your posts around the forums and you seem to be a kinda a know it all.. lay off man. your making a big stink about how much power he will loose. Underpowered? Yes compared to an wrx. But if you compare it to most 4banger keeps and the old Toyota 22re. Not really that underpowered. At no point did he say, 'i want more power so I'm going to put bigger tires on my car' He's not the first person to lift a subaru wagon. Infact their are multiple people here in the rmic with lifted subarus and your not preaching to them he knows what he wants, and how to get their, just looking to save some money. From reading this thread it seems like you got pissed off cuz he disagreed with you. If you know your right and he is going to hate it, then let him do it and later you can say I told you so.
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If you know your right and he is going to hate it, then let him do it and later you can say I told you so.
Well, I have to tell him first or I can't tell him I told him so... And as usual I'm just ****in' around.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:28 AM   #23
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this project will be my Camping/skiing/off roading car, not my race car. which is why i am trying to save money, i dont want to dump tons of money into this project when i am trying to save up for another subaru. but got the info i needed. thanks guys.
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