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Old 07-09-2015, 12:53 AM   #1
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Hey everyone, I found a bugeye Wrx for sale on Craigslist that was crashed and pretty cheap. The guy says the car was put in a ditch going 70 and is mangled a little but "I bought it with a brand new rebuilt motor with manly stroker pistons eagle forged rods acl race bearings cosmetic pro gasket kit new oem water pump and timing belt kit Perrin light weight pully Perrin up pipe full silicone intake tubes Cobb Sri new sti nitrated crank Cobb access port and more." He told me the timing cover got hit. He never took anything off or really looked at it so I don't really know if the heads are junk or not. However i noticed in his ad he stated no head parts at all so I asked him, what about the heads he said the belt went on him and "his tuner" fixed it for him. Then I asked him about the transmission and turbo, he said both were stock as far as he knew... Now I dont know why anyone would build that block and still be running a td04, but hey, maybe the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. So I asked him if he had documentation on all of his engine work he and/or the previous owner has had done, he said he has "written" documentation of a list from the previous owner, and "written" documentation from "his tuner" as it wasn't "an official shop". Soooo all of this has really sparked my interest but is obviously sketchy. Could the guy just really not know what he's talking about, or is he trying to make poop sound like gold? Is there any way I can be sure one way or the other if the work was done? Like I said it's going pretty cheap and that's the only reason I'm considering it but please folks, tell me what ya think.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:29 AM   #2
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You have found a scammer run as fast as you can. There are specific skills and equipment needed for these turbo Subarus.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:12 AM   #3
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You can't verify internal work without taking a peek inside. You can verify if valves are bent by doing a compression or leak down. Bent valves usually don't seal.....


You need to learn how to use paragraphs....
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:15 AM   #4
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You have found a scammer run as fast as you can. There are specific skills and equipment needed for these turbo Subarus.
This is bad advice.
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:52 AM   #5
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This is bad advice.

That was bad advice... The car is real, I'm only paying cash so don't be one of those guys that says you can't buy anything off of craigslist.

So I looked up the vin number this morning just to see what kind of records I got. First to note is that I learned the car was originally from Pennsylvania (which is really far from here) then moved to North Carolina then to here. The title like he stated was still clean since he hadn't taken it anywhere to get it worked on yet.

The service records... Well there were 8 of them in total and the first two were the only ones that had mileage. The first one was 6 miles and the second one was 103,000. It's all very interesting to me and I don't really know what to think but I think I'm just gonna buy the damn thing for the price. Yolo am I right?
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:28 PM   #6
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As long as you are willing to risk a complete rebuild out the gate then yes. YOLO sir. #YOLO indeed
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:22 PM   #7
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Hey guys I just had a brilliant idea. Im going to pick up a borescope from the parts store then take it with me. Then I'll pull the plug on cylinder 2 when I go to look at the car and check out the top of the piston.

Firstly To examine the carbon buildup, obviously if the engine was rebuilt 20k miles ago the carbon buildup won't be nearly as bad as it would be for an engine with 140k miles.

Secondly to look for MANLEY written on the top of the piston (as it should be something like that or along those lines, if I'm right?).

This would at least ensure that the shortblock itself was more than likely built with all of the parts he says it has.

Tell me what ya guys think.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:10 PM   #8
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You may or may not be able to see anything - but its worth a shot. If the price is that good - buy the car and rebuild...
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Old 07-10-2015, 12:36 AM   #9
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Drain oil and look at the rod journals with the borescope. Pull a plug and peak at the piston crowns.

+1 for #yolo bro
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Old 07-10-2015, 12:49 AM   #10
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Drain oil and look at the rod journals with the borescope. Pull a plug and peak at the piston crowns.

+1 for #yolo bro

That's a great idea!

And yeah I'll probably part out all the parts I don't need so hopefully I nearly make my money back
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:14 AM   #11
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Hey everyone, I found a bugeye Wrx for sale on Craigslist that was crashed and pretty cheap. The guy says the car was put in a ditch going 70 and is mangled a little but "I bought it with a brand new rebuilt motor with manly stroker pistons eagle forged rods acl race bearings cosmetic pro gasket kit new oem water pump and timing belt kit Perrin light weight pully Perrin up pipe full silicone intake tubes Cobb Sri new sti nitrated crank Cobb access port and more." He told me the timing cover got hit. He never took anything off or really looked at it so I don't really know if the heads are junk or not. However i noticed in his ad he stated no head parts at all so I asked him, what about the heads he said the belt went on him and "his tuner" fixed it for him. Then I asked him about the transmission and turbo, he said both were stock as far as he knew... Now I dont know why anyone would build that block and still be running a td04, but hey, maybe the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. So I asked him if he had documentation on all of his engine work he and/or the previous owner has had done, he said he has "written" documentation of a list from the previous owner, and "written" documentation from "his tuner" as it wasn't "an official shop". Soooo all of this has really sparked my interest but is obviously sketchy. Could the guy just really not know what he's talking about, or is he trying to make poop sound like gold? Is there any way I can be sure one way or the other if the work was done? Like I said it's going pretty cheap and that's the only reason I'm considering it but please folks, tell me what ya think.
You're really not this stupid are you?

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Old 07-16-2015, 12:22 PM   #12
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Got the borescope yesterday, I tested it out on my car to find HB written in one side and A on the other. I also found a small amount of carbon buildup around the edges of the piston but not a whole lot and my engine has 113k miles.

That given, I should see a very very clean piston and something other than HB and A on the top of the piston.

Going up to get it on Saturday so wish me luck. I'll update it then.
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:47 PM   #13
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Hey all.

I just picked up the car I popped off the spark plugs and didn't see anything on the Pistons and they were clean. He also had all the boxes with the stuff so I went ahead and bought it.

Unfortunately however the passenger side cam gear was shattered so we can be sure that that head is pretty much junk.
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:48 PM   #14
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I'll keep this thread updated as I start taking the at apart. Also if anyone needs parts from a silver 02 wrx just ask lots of stuff is still good.
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Old 07-19-2015, 03:46 PM   #15
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Here's a link to the ad if anyone wants to see pics or wants parts

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2736395
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