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Old 03-03-2011, 02:04 AM   #1
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From: http://www.autoloandaily.com/consume...yota-best-2747

"Consumer Reports has released its annual Automakers Report Card, which ranks automakers based on road tests and predicted reliability. For 2011, Honda, Subaru and Toyota took the top three spots... This is the third year in a row that Honda, Subaru and Toyota scored highest by the magazine. Honda, including Acura, has the best reliability record of any manufacturer, according to Consumer Reports. ... Subaru has the highest average road-test score of 81. Consumer Reports says the only Subaru model that has below-average reliability is the Impreza WRX. All five of Subaru's other vehicles scored high in road tests and reliability."

Comments? I would like to hear what others (especially long time owners) think about this.
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:08 AM   #2
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The only reason I can think of that the WRX isn't that reliable is because people mod the crap out of them. When you start making serious changes to ANY vehicle, you start to sacrifice that reliability. I know a couple of people with full race cars, and it seems like it spends 90% of their time in a shop getting something fixed or modified.

That said, I really haven't met anyone with a virgin WRX that has had any big problems with it. Modified, I have seen several blown engines.
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:08 AM   #3
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I think their full of ****

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Old 03-03-2011, 02:08 AM   #4
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that's weird, there are a lot less WRX's with blown ringlands than STI's
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:29 AM   #5
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wrx spun bearings and subaru's gross mishandling of the fiasco has a lot to do with the poor rating.
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:33 AM   #6
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:03 AM   #7
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that's weird, there are a lot less WRX's with blown ringlands than STI's
An STi is a WRX...
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:09 AM   #8
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Everyone's a wannabe mechanic and mess up their WRXs doing things they shouldn't be. Furthermore, they probably don't have the funds to get proper tunes so their engines blow up. Lastly, Foresters and Legacies don't see tracks as often as WRXs do.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:12 AM   #9
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Interesting how wrx is more unreliable than other models. Wait a minute, last I checked wrx shares same exact to the T drive like with forester and a lot of parts as the legacy. So how can a car that as part for part just with different styling and interior be more unreliable? Wait wonder why one of most common cars that Subaru makes is AutoX, Tracked, Drag raced all the time happens to be more unreliable. Wonder if that has anything to do with them pushing the car and its parts to its limits more time. Call BS on the article.

Again good example of what somebodys sees from the outside, doesn't do their own research and then claims that they know it all. Worst part is a lot of people believe this stuff. Telling you would say a good 3/4 of all "news", "reviews", etc is all BS where people put in their own 2cents or guess on information. Telling me news or reviews on something I want to know facts. Don't give a **** what you think about it, only care about the facts so thats all that should be said. I think I could put the pieces to the puzzle together after.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:22 AM   #10
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Yeh, I would have to guess it's gotta be the "mod" issue. The WRX has to be one of the most ("seriously") modded cars out there (putting an intake and exhaust on an N/A Civic doesn't count!). It's. interesting too because my buddy recently sent me something that ranked the safest cars. The Subaru Impreza was on the list in either the Top 5 or Top 10 (can't remember) but what was interesting is that there was a little asterisk which, at the bottom, said "Excluding WRX". I still don't know what that meant. Could it be because of how fast it is? Or the fact that it comes stock with summer tires maybe? I have no idea.

Oh well, guess we'll all just have to be happy driving an unreliable car that's not safe!
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:54 AM   #11
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Yeh, I would have to guess it's gotta be the "mod" issue. The WRX has to be one of the most ("seriously") modded cars out there (putting an intake and exhaust on an N/A Civic doesn't count!). It's. interesting too because my buddy recently sent me something that ranked the safest cars. The Subaru Impreza was on the list in either the Top 5 or Top 10 (can't remember) but what was interesting is that there was a little asterisk which, at the bottom, said "Excluding WRX". I still don't know what that meant. Could it be because of how fast it is? Or the fact that it comes stock with summer tires maybe? I have no idea.

Oh well, guess we'll all just have to be happy driving an unreliable car that's not safe!

Could just be that they didn't test the WRX/STi and consider it a different model due to the fact that it has "MOAR POWAH!" Not to mention the crash statistics from insurance companies probably shows a much higher ratio of WRX/STi losses than Impreza 2.5i losses and they don't take the statistics of the niche model into account on the final safety rating of the (most likely) more popular version of the car.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:57 AM   #12
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that's weird, there are a lot less WRX's with blown ringlands than STI's
STi's are WRX's.

Edit: damn it - quit reading too soon.
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:13 AM   #13
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Consumer reports doesn't do the testing to come up with their rankings, they just take what is reported to them and publish that.

As others have said the WRX's problem most likely stems from people who mod the **** out of their cars and then take the aftermarket parts off and sell them a few years down the line as "stock never modified" to some poor sucker who reports to CR that the car is a piece of ****.
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:49 AM   #14
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Could just be that they didn't test the WRX/STi and consider it a different model due to the fact that it has "MOAR POWAH!" Not to mention the crash statistics from insurance companies probably shows a much higher ratio of WRX/STi losses than Impreza 2.5i losses and they don't take the statistics of the niche model into account on the final safety rating of the (most likely) more popular version of the car.
Not to mention the WRX isn't even crash tested....
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:53 AM   #15
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An STi is a WRX...
A lot of owners don't want to believe that.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:11 AM   #16
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Consumer Reports is a bunch of BS for the most part. Plus that only has the STI no review on the WRX model
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:27 AM   #17
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I agree with the sentiment that much of this issue may be due to more and more problems being reported as a result of what is being done to these cars as they age. Their studies don't quite take into account that much of the demographic that buys WRXs is really rough on them.

I recall that is wasn't all that long ago when they actually reported the OPPOSITE. Back in 02-06 WRX/WRX STi reliability was rated higher than the NA models. That might not be saying much, though, as a lot of NA 2.5 models were having serious head gasket issues not long before that time.

Then again, maybe I'm hallucinating. I was drinking a lot five or six years ago.

The above being written, spun bearing and broken ringland issues seem to be reported on these boards on an increasingly regular basis. I like EJ boxer engines, but threads on here will definitely leave one thinking they're more fragile than some of us would like to believe- even in stock form.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:34 AM   #18
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Their model includes the STI in with the WRX. Numbers make sense given the propensity of their owners to modify the car, as well as drive the crap out of them. The high number of people that purchase them that don't know how to drive and care for a high performance car certainly don't help the numbers.
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its the kiddie factor
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:46 AM   #20
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Yeh, I would have to guess it's gotta be the "mod" issue. The WRX has to be one of the most ("seriously") modded cars out there (putting an intake and exhaust on an N/A Civic doesn't count!). It's. interesting too because my buddy recently sent me something that ranked the safest cars. The Subaru Impreza was on the list in either the Top 5 or Top 10 (can't remember) but what was interesting is that there was a little asterisk which, at the bottom, said "Excluding WRX". I still don't know what that meant. Could it be because of how fast it is? Or the fact that it comes stock with summer tires maybe? I have no idea.

Oh well, guess we'll all just have to be happy driving an unreliable car that's not safe!
Impreza and WRX TR get higher rating because of 2 piece seats. STi and WRX get slightly lower crash rating because of 1 piece.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:09 PM   #21
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Impreza and WRX TR get higher rating because of 2 piece seats. STi and WRX get slightly lower crash rating because of 1 piece.
Last time I checked, WRX / STI aren't rated at all...


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Old 03-03-2011, 12:17 PM   #22
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off topic but holy crap the retail price on that wrx is what i got my STi for. Would never pay that for a wrx
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:21 PM   #23
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The reason why they say is not reliable is because the mods I agree but also because of the young drivers crashing and totaling their cars. Last week I saw a mom buying a 11 WRX for her son, this kid was around 18-19.
I wanted to say to the lady " get him a tank instead "
That's why our insurance is so high.
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off topic but holy crap the retail price on that wrx is what i got my STi for. Would never pay that for a wrx
Agreed, everything is negotiable.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:36 PM   #25
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Last time I checked, WRX / STI aren't rated at all...


Think so?
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_res...ts.aspx?subaru
Just don't think they rated newer models yet or maybe just don't care to for some reason. If am not mistaken 08+wrx are all 1 piece seats, don't think their are 2piece ones for them.
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