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Old 03-09-2011, 08:59 AM   #1
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Default Best and worst used cars

Savvy car buyers know that the best way to get the most vehicle for their money is to buy a used car. With the average new car losing 47 percent of its value in the first three years, buying used is an affordable way to get the safety and comfort features you want at a far better price.

2009 Honda Fit

The Best of the best list guides you to the 2001 to 2010 models that scored well in our road tests when new and have been consistently reliable over time. Each has achieved multiple years of above-average used-car verdicts (available to subscribers), indicating that owners have had relatively few problems.

Models built by Toyota and Honda dominate the list once again, and many of the best used vehicles are from Asian manufacturers. But high-quality vehicles are available from domestic and European automakers as well.

The Worst of the worst list shows models that have had multiple years of below-average reliability in our survey. It is dominated by vehicles from domestic and European manufacturers, primarily General Motors, which had 16 of the 29 models listed.

Our reliability data are derived from our Annual Auto Survey, which generated responses from subscribers on 1.3 million vehicles.

We also list reliable cars by price range (available to subscribers), so that you can easily see what's available for your budget.

Our Used cars to avoid list (available to subscribers) highlights specific models and the years that they had below-average reliability.
Best of the best

Here we highlight the most reliable and well-rounded vehicle in each category. We also list other contenders in order of their overall reliability scores for model years 2001 to 2010. Each model has at least three years of reliability data.

Small cars

Honda Fit
The Fit has been an economical, reliable, and versatile hatchback ever since it went on sale in the U.S. in 2007. It packs a huge amount of usable space into a small package and has standard antilock braking and curtain air bags. But before 2011 electronic stability control (ESC) was available only on models with the optional navigation system.
Family cars

Toyota Prius
2004 Toyota Prius

The Prius has had outstanding reliability and has delivered standout fuel economy. But the redesigned 2010 model has only average reliability. Look for one with optional ESC, starting with 2004 models.

Upscale cars

Lexus ES
The ES has long been a strong contender in this category. It has had outstanding reliability over the past 10 model years and is quiet and comfortable. ESC became standard with the redesigned 2007 model, which included a bigger engine and a six-speed automatic transmission.

Luxury cars

2005 Acura RL
2005 Acura RL

While the RL isn't the sportiest car, it has had excellent reliability wrapped in a comfortable and refined package. The 2005 redesign brought standard all-wheel drive but complicated controls. The Infiniti M35 is sportier and the much-larger Lexus LS is more luxurious.

Sports & sporty cars

Mazda MX-5 Miata
2007 Mazda MX-5 Miata

The Miata is affordable and fun to drive. Look for models after 2006, when ABS became standard. The Lexus SC is a top-down cruiser with the added comfort of a folding hard-top roof. For a sportier alternative, consider the Acura RSX coupe and the Honda S2000 roadster.

Small SUVs

Honda CR-V
The CR-V is comfortable and drives like a car, with a fuel-efficient four-cylinder engine. In 2005 ESC and curtain air bags were made standard, and the 2007 redesign brought more power and improved fuel efficiency. The Acura RDX is quick and agile but has a stiff ride. The Toyota RAV4 and Mitsubishi Outlander offer third-row seats.

Midsized & large SUVs

Toyota Highlander
The Highlander is quiet and refined, with a comfortable ride. It delivers good fuel economy, especially the Hybrid model. The Toyota Land Cruiser combines luxury with serious off-road ability.

Minivans

Toyota Sienna (FWD)
2008 Toyota Sienna

A Lexus-like ride and comfort are hallmarks of the Sienna. The well-mannered suspension and refined V6 engine, along with very good reliability, are among its strong suits. Look for post-2004 models, which are roomier and more powerful. AWD is optional, but the run-flat tires may wear somewhat quickly. The Honda Odyssey has better handling, but its reliability has not been as good.

Pickup trucks

Honda Ridgeline
2007 Honda Ridgeline

The Ridgeline combines car-like handling with the utility of a pickup truck. It is easy to get in and out of the cabin, the tailgate can open horizontally or drop down, and the composite bed has a lockable, all-weather trunk. The Toyota Tundra offers greater towing and cargo-hauling capacities.

Worst of the worst

These models, listed alphabetically, have multiple years of reliability that's much worse than average among 2001 to 2010 models.


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Old 03-09-2011, 09:51 AM   #2
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No surprises at all.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:20 AM   #3
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let me say that im surprised that corvette didnt make it to the top of reliability list under sports cars... and do ppl even care about RSX anymore?...
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:11 AM   #4
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aside from the fact that I am a fan of Subaru, I am surprised that the Forester didn't get an honorable mention for the small SUV....
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:12 PM   #5
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This list has validated my wife's and my vehicle choices as being prudent: '06 Prius for her (even a model with ESC as they recommend ), '08 Fit for me, both bought used.

That said, I still like driving the Prius but am tired of the Fit…
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Not surprised by the A6 being on the "worst" list. My sister had one and it was in the shop every other week. The stupid thing is what did she get when the lease was up?An A3 because her husband is a pretentious douche and didn't want her to be driving a Japanese or American car

Also, while not making the "Best" list, congrats to Ford for being the only of the Big 3 without a model on the worst list.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:11 PM   #7
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Pretty good list... boring cars, but good list.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:12 PM   #8
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That worst list should be called "GM cars, OH and some other stuff". wth?!?!

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Old 03-09-2011, 01:14 PM   #9
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It's time to install an intake, header/exhaust, shifter, wheels/tires and some coilovers.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:19 PM   #10
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let me say that im surprised that corvette didnt make it to the top of reliability list under sports cars... and do ppl even care about RSX anymore?...
All of my friends' with C5 & C6s had major repairs in the same time-frame that my Viper and friends' 996T & Gallardo needed only fluid changes and tires. We all had the same driving style.

Some notables:
Transmission seal went out on bone stock LS3 over 180mph. Cracking leaf springs on C5. Broken valve springs. Broken shifter fork on C6Z06(probably operator error ). Roof came off C6Z06. Dash caught on fire C6Z06. Dash fell apart C5Z06. The LS3C6 was in the dealership constantly.

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I knew the MX-5 would be on the list before I viewed the thread, but the RSX is "sportier" than a RWD roadster?

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This list has validated my wife's and my vehicle choices as being prudent: '06 Prius for her (even a model with ESC as they recommend ), '08 Fit for me, both bought used.

That said, I still like driving the Prius but am tired of the Fit…
What a car enthusiast you are.....

Corvette for the power gets great gas milage. But then this list is not really for people who love cars. Nothing against the miata which is a fun car but really not a serious car for those who want performance.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:35 PM   #13
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I knew the MX-5 would be on the list before I viewed the thread, but the RSX is "sportier" than a RWD roadster?

This list is for and by people who mainly use cars as utility items. For those a RSX would be stretching the envelope.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:46 PM   #14
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It's time to install an intake, header/exhaust, shifter, wheels/tires and some coilovers.
I'll just bide my time, commute in the bland Fit, and ride my Versys whenever possible… until 2014. I have big plans for that year (first year of being an attending).
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:22 AM   #15
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Shik, you drive an '09 or newer Fit? Those look like tasty little rides.
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No, we actually chose the first-gen intentionally. Same with choosing the 2nd-gen Prius. For both of them we liked the previous generation better than the current offering, largely due to interior/dashboard design and layout. The newer Fit seemed even cheaper yet inside than ours.
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This list is for and by people who mainly use cars as utility items. For those a RSX would be stretching the envelope.
Your explaination makes no sense in light of the fact that the MX-5 is pick #1.
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But then this list is not really for people who love cars. Nothing against the miata which is a fun car but really not a serious car for those who want performance.


You = clueless
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It's time to install an intake, header/exhaust, shifter, wheels/tires and some coilovers.
yes! and they will all make the car run more efficiently!

lighter parts overall, intake/exhaust will improve flow, and the coilovers will allow you to lower the rideheight, which will improve airflow under the car!
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Not surprised by the A6 being on the "worst" list. My sister had one and it was in the shop every other week. The stupid thing is what did she get when the lease was up?An A3 because her husband is a pretentious douche and didn't want her to be driving a Japanese or American car

Also, while not making the "Best" list, congrats to Ford for being the only of the Big 3 without a model on the worst list.


Honestly the Ford comment can't be emphasized enough. Not that I'd ever buy any of their current vehicles but they're definitely a tier or two above the General.
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You = clueless

Really...do you think the MX-5 is the best all around sportscar value currently in production? Please defend.

Also defend the RSX (FWD) as a step up....
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Honestly the Ford comment can't be emphasized enough. Not that I'd ever buy any of their current vehicles but they're definitely a tier or two above the General.
True this...

Have a buddy who was just told that it was "normal and expected" for his 2 yr old Chevy v-8 pickup to burn a pint of oil between oil changes.
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Cliffnotes: Japanese Good, Domestic and Euro Bad
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yes! and they will all make the car run more efficiently!

lighter parts overall, intake/exhaust will improve flow, and the coilovers will allow you to lower the rideheight, which will improve airflow under the car!
I think you missed Shika's epiphany: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2138076
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Really...do you think the MX-5 is the best all around sportscar value currently in production? Please defend.

Also defend the RSX (FWD) as a step up....
I never said the RSX was a step above the MX-5 -- that's why I was questioning the article's assessment that the RSX is "sportier" than the Mazda.
reading comprehension > you

Anyone who doesn't consider a Miata the best overall value in a genuine sportscar needs to remove their cranium from the dark and smelly place wherin it resides and go drive one in anger*.

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