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Old 07-15-2002, 03:19 PM   #1
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I realize that this is a bit off-topic, but I had to share the stupidity. For anybody who's complained about changing the sparkplugs in a Subie, I tried to change the plugs in my girlfriends Dodge Avenger, which has transverse mounted Mitsu V6. After about five minutes of puzzling, and tracing wires, I realized that one of the two heads, along with the attached threespark plugs, is UNDER the solid intake manifold. W T F????? There is no way to change the plugs without removing the entire manifold.

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Old 07-15-2002, 04:43 PM   #2
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I realize that this is a bit off-topic, but I had to share the stupidity. For anybody who's complained about changing the sparkplugs in a Subie, I tried to change the plugs in my girlfriends Dodge Avenger, which has transverse mounted Mitsu V6. After about five minutes of puzzling, and tracing wires, I realized that one of the two heads, along with the attached threespark plugs, is UNDER the solid intake manifold. W T F????? There is no way to change the plugs without removing the entire manifold.

New cars really piss me off.
Do they still sell the Avenger down there? Coz the Avenger was axed a few years ago up here in Canada.
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Old 07-15-2002, 11:09 PM   #3
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I don't believe they do. Mechanically, it's a Chrysler Sebring. Pretty nice car, actually.
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Old 07-16-2002, 02:09 AM   #4
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and i though WE had it bad at least they don't have to spend an hour to replace an airfilter . good thing i got me the K&N, should last me 1,000,000 b4 replacing em
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Old 07-16-2002, 02:31 PM   #5
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Why would it take you an hour to replace an air-filter?
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Old 07-16-2002, 07:50 PM   #6
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yeah, I was wondering that, too, but I wasn't going to hassle him.
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Old 07-16-2002, 09:01 PM   #7
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What part of working on a subaru is "bad", for the most part they are pretty easy cars to work on (at least the Impreza/Legacy/Forester)

The only thing I ever had trouble with was changing the timing belt on my DOHC for the first time, but after that, i could do it with my eyes closed.
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Old 07-17-2002, 12:46 AM   #8
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Try changing plugs on an Infiniti Q45. There are no plug wires each plug has it's own coil! Or better yet a Sunbeam Tiger! Drill holes in the inner fender wells or remove the engine.
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:35 AM   #9
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Try changing the plugs on a V-12 Jaguar E-type. You better have some rags handy to wipe up all the blood that you're gonna lose from the barked off skin.
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Old 07-17-2002, 02:23 AM   #10
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reason i said an hour was because i have to remove practically EVERYTHING out just so that i could get the bottom 3 thingys to hook up from the top cover.
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Old 07-17-2002, 03:05 AM   #11
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reason i said an hour was because i have to remove practically EVERYTHING out just so that i could get the bottom 3 thingys to hook up from the top cover.
I usually just curse and grunt at it for about 5 minutes or so. That helps get those three tabs on. And all without disconnecting anything else.

Haven't thought about the plugs yet. What's the replacement interval again?

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Old 07-17-2002, 08:55 AM   #12
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and i though WE had it bad at least they don't have to spend an hour to replace an airfilter . good thing i got me the K&N, should last me 1,000,000 b4 replacing em
Hate to ruin your party but you better clean it a couple times in that 1,000,000 miles.
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Old 07-17-2002, 08:58 AM   #13
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What part of working on a subaru is "bad", for the most part they are pretty easy cars to work on (at least the Impreza/Legacy/Forester)

The only thing I ever had trouble with was changing the timing belt on my DOHC for the first time, but after that, i could do it with my eyes closed.
Weeeeeell.........aren't yooooooooou special?! J/K
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Haven't thought about the plugs yet. What's the replacement interval again?
60k on the DOHC and 30K on the SOHC. Guess the DOHC is really a beotch to get into so they installed "platinum" plugs to extend the mean time between "grief" period for that engine.

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