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Old 07-15-2002, 05:01 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Might have Hydrolocked! need info please

last night I was driving home with my wife and the road was flooded pretty good but not above the exhaust and there was tons of traffic going through so I just started following.

I got through the light at Deer Valley and my car started sputtering on me and died. I thought I was in deep 5hit! My wife and I got out and pushed the car the last 20 feet before we were out of the flooding. I was beginning to worry that I hydrolocked the engine.

I know I ingested some water but I don;t think I injested enough to hydrolock the engine but I;m not sure because I have never come across these symptoms:

When I first tried to start the car after it died on me I could hear the starter trying to turn but the engine wasn't turning over. This to me suggests hydrolock. Then, about 10 seconds later I tried starting it and it cranked very easily but would not start. I tried starting my car and for about 15 seconds it would crank but not start. Then it finally turned over but sputtered really bad and stalled. It did this about 4 times before I could actually give it enough gas to not die on me. By this time it was blowing all kinds of White (water vapor) smoke out the tailpipes and sounding pretty bad like it was on missing really bad in all cylinders. I was only about 1/2 mile from home so I drove it home and by the time I got home, the smoke had cleared and it sounded fine.

So, this morning I go to change my oil to be on the safe side and guess what...the oil looks like chocolate milk. Yup, water got into the oil. Not sure how this happened. My guess is that it made it's way in through the valve cover breathers since for right now, I just have hoses on them not going anywhere until I get the other bungs welded onto my catchcan. The flooding was probably a good 1-2 miles of flooding and about 2-6" deep. So I change my oil and start the car up and everything sounds fine. I am not blowing any oil smoke, no bearing noise, turbo is still spinning fine at idle, and I don;t hear any dead cylinders. Also pulled the plugs and they look fine also.

Has this ever happened to anyone or have any good info of what might have happened? Thanks.

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Old 07-15-2002, 05:25 PM   #2
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Something very similar happened to me. I was driving through a flooded part of a street. I was going a bit too fast, and made a very small splash.

My car didn't die though. It just stuttered for a few moments, and as I gave it a bit of gas to keep it from dyinig, letting it completely idle sometimes...

I pulled away and it was fine. That was....9 months ago and the car has run just fine since.
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Old 07-15-2002, 05:44 PM   #3
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It is kind of a pain in the ass, but you should pull the oil pan and take a look at the rods. The most common symptom of hydrolock is bent rods. You should be able to see if a rod is bent.

Since you plugs arent smashed flat, I would think you did not ingest enough water to do anything. you changed the oil and that is a good thing. you might want to change it again in about a week to make sure you get all the water out.

Keep an eye on things, and you should be fine.

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Old 07-15-2002, 06:14 PM   #4
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you changed the oil and that is a good thing. you might want to change it again in about a week to make sure you get all the water out.

Keep an eye on things, and you should be fine.

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I'm definetly going ot change the oil again next week. Thanks. And I don;t think I bent a rod but I'm going to do a compression check also.

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Old 07-15-2002, 06:20 PM   #5
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good idea on the compression check.

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Old 07-15-2002, 06:27 PM   #6
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How deep of water was this water? How fast were you going?

What car? I know subies suck water high from the fender......and unless you were in water that was a good foot plus deep you should've been alright.
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Old 07-15-2002, 06:37 PM   #7
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How deep of water was this water? How fast were you going?

What car? I know subies suck water high from the fender......and unless you were in water that was a good foot plus deep you should've been alright.
Water was probably 2-6" deep and I was going probably at a fast walking pace so pretty slow. But, when I got home and popped my hood, I could see a lot of water splash marks in the engine bay and the filter was wet.

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Old 07-16-2002, 02:59 AM   #8
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Wow man. Ur intake must be low to pick up water that is 2-6inch deep?

Sounds like you hydrolocked it. You did a great thing by changing your oil. Now do the compression test to see if you cracked anything while trying to crank the engine with water in it. If ur compression is good, you might want to take a look at the rods, but if it idles good you should be ok.

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Old 07-16-2002, 03:30 AM   #9
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Wow man. Ur intake must be low to pick up water that is 2-6inch deep?

Sounds like you hydrolocked it. You did a great thing by changing your oil. Now do the compression test to see if you cracked anything while trying to crank the engine with water in it. If ur compression is good, you might want to take a look at the rods, but if it idles good you should be ok.

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It's no lower than most CAI setups. Here's a pic of the filter location.
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Old 07-16-2002, 03:55 AM   #10
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eric pull that lucky horse shoe out of ur arse cause you got lucky on this one, so did WhiteWag about a week ago, he found out how strong honda's really are, he got a 1 in 100 chance as did you, you are lucky you didn't bend the rod when you tried cranking it, you may still have blown a head gasket it but it sounds like you might have made it thru this one unscathed...and i can tell you that's a VERY rare thing....and i don't know HOW you got water in that filter, i know when 8c locked his we hit the puddle at like 20 and it came up thru the fender and out the hole right down thru the filter...bah...talk about a bad day, broken piston and bent rod, gotta love comprehensive insurance.

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Old 07-16-2002, 12:36 PM   #11
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hopefully, nothing serious happened. one day, I was driving my civic offroad and I flew though a puddle at about 20mph and it was about 12" deep.

the car was lagging but it didn't die. It did feel very sluggish though. all I did is let everything dry out, I changed the oil, put some good gas in (cause I was on empty) and I reset the ecu. It runs fine now.

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Old 07-16-2002, 01:03 PM   #12
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hopefully, nothing serious happened. one day, I was driving my civic offroad and I flew though a puddle at about 20mph and it was about 12" deep.

the car was lagging but it didn't die. It did feel very sluggish though. all I did is let everything dry out, I changed the oil, put some good gas in (cause I was on empty) and I reset the ecu. It runs fine now.

good luck
that's cause it needs a cap/rotor & wires...and only factory parts, they do that all the time with aftermarket crap.

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Old 07-16-2002, 01:07 PM   #13
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that's cause it needs a cap/rotor & wires...and only factory parts, they do that all the time with aftermarket crap.
I am sorry, but I dont understand what you are trying to say
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Old 07-17-2002, 12:14 AM   #14
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I am sorry, but I dont understand what you are trying to say
That's just Jeremy for you. I've been here for a few months and I'm still trying to figure him out.
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Old 07-17-2002, 02:28 AM   #15
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I am sorry, but I dont understand what you are trying to say
nah i was just sayin that your civic did that because there was moisture on the cap & rotor & wires...they do it all the time when we get heavy rains.

eric i still think you are lucky

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Old 07-18-2002, 01:28 AM   #16
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okay, but it wasn't raining. it was sunny and dry. there was just a big muddy puddle that was on the side of the road in a water run-off area.
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