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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Ltd. Garnet Red Pearl |
Maybe if THAT is what the FFR WRX-powered roofless car looked like...
That is pretty darn hot, right there... and not just another Ariel Atom clone. |
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Scooby Guru
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Location: Michigan
Vehicle:** Ring Time of 7:43.5 |
That is insane looking. I really like the design.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 88288
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Central MA
Vehicle:2012 VW GLI Silver |
They had me at Cosworth........and that looks like a dream.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 175608
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Location: British Columbia
Vehicle:2006 Impreza 1998 Honda VFR 800FI |
As the Brits like to say, that thing is PROPER MENTAL!
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 120152
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Location: Indy
Vehicle:2006 06 WRX, 86 FMOD Blue, White/Red |
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:head explode: ![]() Imagine fleets of those things as commuter cars. That would be impressive. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Ltd. Garnet Red Pearl |
It would need at least a canopy for commuting, and enough stowage for a brief case or other small cargo.
I was giving some more thought to the FFR 818 concept over the last couple of days, and this car fits, too... If ever there was a platform for a rotary engine... with as impractical and thirsty as they are, as well as their space-efficiency per power output, it would seem that roofless sports/race cars with limited use profiles would be it. I love boxer engines. I like rotaries, though, too. They have some big technical plusses, and some big minuses for daily use... but a rotary would be awesome for this use profile. Even more compact. Even lighter, possibly even lower than a boxer. Simpler with fewer moving parts. More volumetric efficiency in terms of power output, and a wider RPM range. The drawbacks of drinking a bit of oil with it's gas, and not great for emissions and fuel efficiency (who cares on a sports/race car that you only occasionally drive?), and the reliability problems for a slogged rotary engine that isn't revved like it needs to be, like some RX7 and RX8 owners find out, are less meaningful, or not incurred if the car is driven as a sports or track car. A 13B, or a REW engine, maybe even a 3 or 4 rotor, maybe with forced-induction, would be a natural application for this sort of car, if there is a lateral-output transaxle that is well suited for it. It would have to have the right gearset, though, for such a high-revving, and rev-loving engine. I would pick a boxer piston engine for a car driven in traffic every day, though... in a heart-beat. Last edited by HipToBeSquare; 03-15-2011 at 05:14 PM. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 83633
Join Date: Mar 2005
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Zion
Vehicle:2012 bright green box |
I look forward to Clarkson sayng it's brilliant and rubbish in less than 3 minutes.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 94002
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kirkwood
Vehicle:2006 WRX Wagon Aspen White |
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You obviously chose the wrong profession... Why didn't you become a automotive engineer/designer? Also, I like your posts, but can you please edit them down a little? Too long winded. Not referring to this post, just in general. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 8489
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Location: Atherton, CA
Vehicle:1978 Plymouth Volare Maroon / White Vinyl |
I love that it is a single-seater. Mine! All mine!
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Moderator Member#: 140163
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Location: 3MI Racing
Vehicle:03 STi hellaflunctional |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Ltd. Garnet Red Pearl |
That wasn't very long.
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 120152
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Location: Indy
Vehicle:2006 06 WRX, 86 FMOD Blue, White/Red |
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Shown here with his car is Conor Daly after his win at the oval at Oreilly Raceway Park, 2010 Star Mazda Champion, Daily drives a peanut eye STI. I'm in the back wearing a hat off to the left. ~80% of the guys in the pic are from they Indy suby club. ![]() ![]() Quote:
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 88288
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Location: Central MA
Vehicle:2012 VW GLI Silver |
Well, that is simply awesome.......
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 873
Join Date: Feb 2000
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Location: Just outside of Houston TX
Vehicle:2013 Golf R 1971 240Z |
wow, the concept of the Atom, but waaay Evolved...
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 32113
Join Date: Jan 2003
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Trollhatten, Japan
Vehicle:05 Saabaru Satin Grey |
Design started with Bjork??? WTH???
I'd rather the KTM: ![]() Austrian/German engineers > British Sheds I'm sorry to say. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Ltd. Garnet Red Pearl |
The main british auto industry may be almost completely outsourced now, but the british cottage auto industry, kits, home-builds, and niche vehicles, are second to none.
The Mono is also much better looking than the X-Bow, for as similar as they are. I would love a Mono with a mid-mounted rotary engine, and a compact automated-clutch F-1 style paddle-shift gearbox, and electronic torque-biasing and limited slip differential. That car just screams for a compact peripheral-port screamer, 2, 3, or even 4 rotors. |
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Vehicle:2010 EVO X GSR 1992 MKIII Supra |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 873
Join Date: Feb 2000
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Just outside of Houston TX
Vehicle:2013 Golf R 1971 240Z |
Just to be different I suppose. It is easy to wish for things you will never get. Most of us just keep those thoughts in side. Hip is missing that filter that stops every meandering thought from spilling out onto the keyboard.
We all wish for things. AT times it is just to be different, but other times, we actually have something useful to say. I am not sure which Hip is. But there are definitely times, where I think he just likes to try to impress everybody with how much random technology he can talk about, whether it is feasible, or better or worse, is irrelevant. I mean Hip, old buddy, you really did not need to say peripheral port, but superlative adjectives seem to be a specialty of yours. I know you enjoy saying it, but most of the time, it does not come across as brilliant and knowledgeable, but rather verbose, and sometimes it tiring. It is your style, and while it can be very tiring and annoying at times, it is better to be known for having a style than not.. so I would not change you man! ![]() Now you may say something horrible about the way I post. It is a free country. |
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Scooby Specialist
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Top Scoob 019
Member#: 43630
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Down Under
Vehicle:2004 GT40R-built 2.5 604 whp @1.8 BAR on VP109 |
very nice alternative to the atom and being single seater gives more of that F1 feel..
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NASIOC Vendor
Member#: 93646
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
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Vehicle:Many Track Records Let us help you go fast! |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 88288
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Location: Central MA
Vehicle:2012 VW GLI Silver |
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It is not like this is a econobox that they jammed performance into or a compromised luxo-sedan-sport-thingy........It is essentially a freaking F1 car for the street that would probably have half the people here pass out in while driving from sheer joy/excitement/nirvana. Even as someone myself who seems to complain about just about everything, some times you need to just say something is awesome when it is, leave it at that, and move on. Last edited by SilverSubaab; 09-09-2011 at 09:45 AM. |
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NASIOC Supporter
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Join Date: Jul 2000
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