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Old 03-12-2015, 08:03 AM   #1
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Default Took off winters and Put all-seasons back on - handling now sucks

Yesterday I took off my winter Pirelli Sottozero 3 tires and winter alloy wheels (size 205/50r17), same size as my OEM all-seasons. My car actually handles better with the winter setup. I am considering putting on 18 inch O.Z.Alleggerita HLT(Anthracite Painted) and 225/40r18 Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I know my car is a 2014 Impreza Sport Premium, but the OEM tires and wheels handling suck. My winter tire and wheel package is lighter than my OEM tires and wheels.

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Old 03-12-2015, 10:13 AM   #2
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How much do your winter wheels weigh? For winter, i run 16" 02-05 wrx wheels on my wife's 2012 Impreza sport. The car feels so much better with those light wheels. I think they weigh around 16 lbs, and I would wager the stock wheels are at least 21ish? The car accelerates and turns way better. The stock wheels seem heavy, but those stock tires are total garbage.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:35 AM   #3
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How much do your winter wheels weigh? For winter, i run 16" 02-05 wrx wheels on my wife's 2012 Impreza sport. The car feels so much better with those light wheels. I think they weigh around 16 lbs, and I would wager the stock wheels are at least 21ish? The car accelerates and turns way better. The stock wheels seem heavy, but those stock tires are total garbage.
With the winter tire and wheel package, I went with the lightest wheel with a reasonable price. I do not remember how much my winter wheels weigh. My car accelerates better and turns better on dry pavement with my winter tire and wheel package. So I am looking to have my car feel at least the same in summer as it does with the winter setup. The wheels I am looking at for summer weigh around 17 lbs and the tires I am looking at should turn a lot better.

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Old 03-12-2015, 12:42 PM   #4
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the lower unsprung weight of your winter set up can have a dramatic effect on handling and the Sottpzero is a pretty strong performing tire
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:13 PM   #5
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the lower unsprung weight of your winter set up can have a dramatic effect on handling and the Sottpzero is a pretty strong performing tire
Hi Luke,

I just ordered my Tire and wheel package. To get everything by the date I needed them I went with Matte Graphite Silver for the OZ Wheels. It is going to ship from the Nevada distribution center and have a delivery date est of 3/26/15. The order lists you as the sales person, as I used the link from this site.

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Old 03-17-2015, 03:47 PM   #6
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I think I am looking at that order right now ... OZ Allegeritas and Pilot Super Sports?

if that's it they are leaving today and you should have them next week
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:51 PM   #7
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I think I am looking at that order right now ... OZ Allegeritas and Pilot Super Sports?

if that's it they are leaving today and you should have them next week
Hi Luke

That's the order. I know it is overkill for my car, but it should definitely improve the handling.

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you should have got a nice light 17x8 and some 235/45's and been done

bet ya hate the 18's
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:07 PM   #9
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The Pirelli Sottozero 3 tires are damn good performance snow, rain, slush tires that also do very well on dry and icy roads. I kind of have the same situation. I have Continental ExtremeContact DWS on my G37x and Pirelli Sottozero 3 tires on my WRX and the DWS tires are inferior in every way, especially on dry roads. Also DWS sidewalls are too soft.

I figured I would add how impressive the Sottozero 3 tires are.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:14 PM   #10
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My OZ Alleggerita HLT 18x8 +48 Matte Graphite Silver wheels and Michelin Pilot Sports 225/40r18 for my 2014 Impreza arrived yesterday. Everything fit perfect without any modifications. OZ actually weighs each wheel and puts a removable tag on each wheel telling the exact weight - each wheel weighed within 5/100 of a pound, with 2 wheels having the exact same weight. The car rides better with the 18's than the OEM Wheels and 17 inch Yokohama's - after a couple hundred miles I will see how they really perform. So far I am very happy with the 18's.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:58 PM   #11
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The Pirelli Sottozero 3 tires are damn good performance snow, rain, slush tires that also do very well on dry and icy roads. I kind of have the same situation. I have Continental ExtremeContact DWS on my G37x and Pirelli Sottozero 3 tires on my WRX and the DWS tires are inferior in every way, especially on dry roads. Also DWS sidewalls are too soft.

I figured I would add how impressive the Sottozero 3 tires are.
Wish I had seen this about five days ago... I just ordered the Conti DWS based on a few recommendations here... Hopefully they're fine for what I need.
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Wish I had seen this about five days ago... I just ordered the Conti DWS based on a few recommendations here... Hopefully they're fine for what I need.
cancel/change the order!!!!
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cancel/change the order!!!!
They'll be here tomorrow. I'm sure it be fine. I'll just add a little pressure for the soft sidewalls.
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Old Yesterday, 12:07 PM   #15
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Wish I had seen this about five days ago... I just ordered the Conti DWS based on a few recommendations here... Hopefully they're fine for what I need.
It all depends...on my last car a 2007 Cobalt I went from 195/60r15 Continental Touring A/S to 215/45r17 Continental Extreme Contact DWS and it improved the handling. It really depends on what your replacing and/or if you are going to a shorter sidewall.

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It all depends...on my last car a 2007 Cobalt I went from 195/60r15 Continental Touring A/S to 215/45r17 Continental Extreme Contact DWS and it improved the handling. It really depends on what your replacing and/or if you are going to a shorter sidewall.

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I would assume that's because the DWS in that size is an XL load tire, which results in a stiffer tire.
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or it wasn't the dws...it was the dw


or it was because he went from a tiny, ****ty tire to much larger one
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or it wasn't the dws...it was the dw


or it was because he went from a tiny, ****ty tire to much larger one

It was the DWS and you are right, I went from a tiny, ****ty tire to much larger one.

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It all depends...on my last car a 2007 Cobalt I went from 195/60r15 Continental Touring A/S to 215/45r17 Continental Extreme Contact DWS and it improved the handling. It really depends on what your replacing and/or if you are going to a shorter sidewall.

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I'll be keeping the same size, I just think that it's a better tire than my previous one in the snow.
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Wish I had seen this about five days ago... I just ordered the Conti DWS based on a few recommendations here... Hopefully they're fine for what I need.
Let us know what you think of them.

It could be a load range issue but to me the sidewalls seem like they are made out of marshmallows and feel like they are going to fold under heavy turning. But the tires do have a decent amount of traction, just not close to the Sottozero 3 in winter and the Dunlop Sport Maxx in the summer. There have also been people dissing the tires for sidewall blowout issues but that could be a load or air pressure issue. All season tires are about compromises and the Conti DWS are still far better than the horrible Goodyear stock tires my G37x came with.

Anyhow, looking to replace the Dunlop Sport Maxx tires with Pilot Super Sports when they wear out so the OP has my attention.
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I used to have an '07 Civic Si, and bought Conti DWS 17/225/45's on forum recommendations...I ran them for about a week before I had to trade them in. Marshmallow sidewalls is an understatement, felt like the car was going to roll accelerating through on-ramps.
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