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Old 05-06-2011, 02:13 PM   #76
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Preferably I want 18x9 5x100 rims. I haven't really decided on the tire size yet. I don't like the pulled tire look, I generally just want a tire that's going to fit the rim properly. I haven't done enough research into the different types of tires yet to really make a good estimate. Why do you ask? I'm open to suggestions.
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:32 PM   #77
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I don't pretend I know what I'm talking about... but from what I've heard, you are correct. They are basically only for people who want their car to roll slowly down the road with exactly the look they want, but don't want to push their car in terms of performance.

I kept seeing people on this board tell people that adapters are "NOT AN OPTION". So I did a quick google search and almost all the results, regardless of what site it was on, said the exact same thing haha.

I'd be interested in WHY they aren't safe however. That much I did't bother looking into.
Yeah that totally sucks too cause I just bought a set of rims for my Mazdaspeed 6 and I guess that may seal the deal for me to keep my car instead of trading it in on a WRX. The Mazda has 5x114.3 lug pattern and I didn't want to not be able to use my rims. Oh well sorry to have thread jacked.
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:54 PM   #78
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Yeah that totally sucks too cause I just bought a set of rims for my Mazdaspeed 6 and I guess that may seal the deal for me to keep my car instead of trading it in on a WRX. The Mazda has 5x114.3 lug pattern and I didn't want to not be able to use my rims. Oh well sorry to have thread jacked.
The STi uses 5x114.3, sounds to me like you'll just have to get an STi ;P
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Old 05-06-2011, 04:31 PM   #79
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I would love to but I can't afford a newer one. If I got one it would be a newer hatch and those are more than I can fork over lol.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:34 PM   #80
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Ok... After a few more days of research I think I've figured out what I want. I do have some questions though.

I'm lookin' at Dunlop Direzza DZ101 255/35R18's. These are 1.18% smaller than the stock wheels. I'd love to run flat black 18x9's... And here's where my questions come.

There aren't a lot of options for 18x9 rims. The Rota G-Force or D-Force look like they are a good option.
So my question is this... I can see on Rota's site that they make a D-Force 18x9 5x100 +45, but they don't show the same colors that you have available on your site Dan. Also, you don't show an 18x9 available for the D-Force. So why the difference in colors and sizes, and is an 18x9 flat black D-Force available at all? If need be, I could get an 18x8.5, but the 8.5's don't look the same since they aren't quite as "deep".

The G-Force doesn't look like it has a flat black option for the 18x9, and the +35 offset sounds a bit low, would that have any adverse effects on the way the car feels?
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+35 is fine on an 11. I would think a centimeter wider track would be negligible.

SVNs come in 18x9 +40
DPTs come in 18x9 +42

Honestly I would go 18x9.5 -- but that's just my opinion.
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:48 PM   #82
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If I do that though, doesn't that mean I have to roll the fenders to get it not to rub? I plan on giving it a slightly lower stance eventually as well, not going to slam it or anything, just more aggressive suspension.
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Old 05-07-2011, 10:44 PM   #83
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Will 18x8.5 et33 fit without rubbing? Or am I better off with 18x8.5 et38?

Tires are 235/40 at the moment but will go 245/40 or 255/35 next year...
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If I do that though, doesn't that mean I have to roll the fenders to get it not to rub? I plan on giving it a slightly lower stance eventually as well, not going to slam it or anything, just more aggressive suspension.
They should fit on stock suspension no rubbing. I just reread Dan's post and read you might need rolling when lowered. I guess yout right, the 9 would be better if you wanted to go lower later on.
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Old 05-08-2011, 11:08 PM   #85
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If I do that though, doesn't that mean I have to roll the fenders to get it not to rub? I plan on giving it a slightly lower stance eventually as well, not going to slam it or anything, just more aggressive suspension.
This wheel offset calculator is helpful as far as comparing offsets between widths: http://www.1010tires.com/wheeloffsetcalculator.asp

18x9.5 +44 on a 265/35-18 seems to be pretty close to the limit as far as what can fit the stock suspension without needing fender work. Here's that same size, stock SE suspension, owner says no fender work or rubbing: http://www.iwsti.com/forums/3247989-post41.html

Now, using the calculator above, 18x9 +35 would stick out 3mm further, so pretty close.

Here's 18x9 +35 on a 255/35-18, claims no rubbing or fender work as well: http://www.wheeldude.com/wordpress/f...rce-flat-black

So, both fit but you're trading wheel width for offset. Personally, if I had to choose between the two I'd rather have an offset closer to stock, tires closer to stock size (265/35-18 is nearly identical to 235/45-17; 255/35-18 is .3" shorter, and more rubber.

However, the fact of the matter is that the only real options >8.5" wide out there right now are Rotas or custom drilled wheels $500+.

If you like Enkei NT03+M's, Spun Autosports has group buy going on now for 18x9.5 +40 in 5x100: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2132599

I'm still holding out for something 18x9 +40-45 or 18x9.5 +45-50 and closer to $1500 a set than $2000.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:46 AM   #86
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There aren't a lot of options for 18x9 rims. The Rota G-Force or D-Force look like they are a good option.
So my question is this... I can see on Rota's site that they make a D-Force 18x9 5x100 +45, but they don't show the same colors that you have available on your site Dan. Also, you don't show an 18x9 available for the D-Force. So why the difference in colors and sizes, and is an 18x9 flat black D-Force available at all?
This wheel is exclusive to us (in the U.S. at least), and we've only had 8.5 and 9.5 manufactured.

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The G-Force doesn't look like it has a flat black option for the 18x9, and the +35 offset sounds a bit low, would that have any adverse effects on the way the car feels?
Some, but at 5mm (compared to +40mm) it's relatively small...

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I like the Rota G-Force's you have on your site there Dan, but do you have any pictures of them in the blacks?
Sorry, no.

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The Rota D-Force's look pretty similar to the Enki's as well but they aren't available in a 9, only a 9.5 and I'm not really sure I want to roll the fender's... I'm a bit worried about the paint having problems down the line or the front's rubbing when cornering hard after it's got a more agressive stance (lowered a bit).
Keep in mind, the TIRE size is what's going to have you rolling your fenders, more than the WHEEL size.

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How well do those adapters actually work? I feel like they would be less safe for some reason.
They're fine in terms of safety, but a bolt-pattern adapter is going to be at LEAST 25mm thick, and given the high offset requirement of our cars it's not usually practical to put a 25mm spacer in there. The wheel will stick out too far.

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Preferably I want 18x9 5x100 rims. I haven't really decided on the tire size yet. I don't like the pulled tire look, I generally just want a tire that's going to fit the rim properly.
A 255/35R18, or 255/40R18, will probably fit without rubbing even on the 18x9.5 +40 wheel. It'll be a little narrow for the wheel, but I don't think it would be so much that most people would notice.

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Old 05-09-2011, 02:20 PM   #87
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Thanks Noisyninja and Dan. I think I've decided to just bite the bullet and go with 18x9.5's.

So now my setup would be Dunlop Direzza DZ101 265/35R18's with the Rota D-Force 18x9.5 +40 5x100's on a 2011 WRX Limited on a stock suspension.

I believe you said that it may require a slight roll in the back, is that correct Dan? I've read 2 places that it doesn't require a roll, but one person said that it would occasionally rub if it took a corner too fast with weight in the back or something.

I may not lower the car for a long time, if at all, since it's a bit more involved than I thought if you do it correctly so that your performance goes up or at least stays the same.

I'm nailing this down though at least. That makes me feel better since I'm not just buying the first thing I see. heh
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I believe you said that it may require a slight roll in the back, is that correct Dan? I've read 2 places that it doesn't require a roll, but one person said that it would occasionally rub if it took a corner too fast with weight in the back or something.
It's going to depend on the exact tire and how heavily you load the car and how hard you drive.

Kuipo, I'm assuming you're talking about a 2011 WRX, and not a 2002 like in your profile?

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Kuipo, I'm assuming you're talking about a 2011 WRX, and not a 2002 like in your profile?
Aye, I called that out specifically in that last post to clarify. I haven't updated my post since the car is still on order. Trying to do research before I get the car. heh

How many horror stories have you guys heard of from people who've rolled their fenders from reputable places? I likely wouldn't do it myself. I'd just bring it in someplace. I'm worried about paint chipping.
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here's drag dr38's 17x8 47mm with nitto nt01 245-45-17

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Old 05-18-2011, 01:44 PM   #91
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Looking at running some 18x9.5 Rota Grids with a +38 offset, will these fit if I run them with 255/35R18's? Plan on lowering the car with H&R springs, about 1.3-1.4 inches. Will I need to roll the fenders?
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Looking at running some 18x9.5 Rota Grids with a +38 offset, will these fit if I run them with 255/35R18's? Plan on lowering the car with H&R springs, about 1.3-1.4 inches. Will I need to roll the fenders?
yes and yes. you'll want stiffer springs btw.
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yes and yes. you'll want stiffer springs btw.
Will the tires look pulled or flush? I can't seem to find good pictures of what this setup looks like.
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Will the tires look pulled or flush? I can't seem to find good pictures of what this setup looks like.
flush with the lip of the wheel...

you can't find a picture of this specific setup or an 18x9.5 with a 255/35/18?
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I can't get any decent information on 18x9.5 with 255/35-18's.

I'm worried they will end up looking like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6bWQq9qsra...ac2fq42316.jpg
Obviously I'm exaggerating some heh.
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So if I've done my math right, a 15x7 wheel with an offset of +9, with 225/60R15 should fit perfectly right? And by perfectly I mean more flush than stock but no rubbing with stock height.
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I can't get any decent information on 18x9.5 with 255/35-18's.

I'm worried they will end up looking like this:


Obviously I'm exaggerating some heh.
http://www.google.com/m/search?site=...0255%2F35%2F18

search here and in member's car gallery for more. it's a very common setup...

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So if I've done my math right, a 15x7 wheel with an offset of +9, with 225/60R15 should fit perfectly right? And by perfectly I mean more flush than stock but no rubbing with stock height.
seriously? do you know how awful that's gonna look at stock ride height?

OEM 16s are 16x6.5 +55 and 16x7 +53. OEM 17s are 17x7 +55. what makes you think a 15x7 +9 won't rub?

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The 2011 wrx has 17x8 +53 with 235s stock. I've heard numerous reports that 18x9.5 +38 with 265s doesn't rub under normal conditions, and that would stick out even further than 15x7 +9.
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yes and yes. you'll want stiffer springs btw.
How is it that you know what the spring rates are for those H&R's and no one else does? I was hoping I wouldn't need to roll them but, oh well.
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i don't know what they are but they're geared for OEM struts and i based it off that.
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