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Old 07-18-2002, 05:32 AM   #1
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Default Launch control and flat shift...what do you think?

http://www.t-sport.com/flat.html

Has anyone heard of this gadget. I know that for years something similar has been around for sport bikes to allow full throttle up-shifts. But the launch control aspect should get you drag racers excited.

But at $80 us, it seems kinda sketchy.

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Old 07-18-2002, 05:43 AM   #2
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Coool! Like the MSD 2-step I used to run in my 5.0... I've always had trouble with the clutch engagement as opposed to holding the revs though... That's where I need the help, with the left pedal! Neat find though!
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Old 07-18-2002, 11:32 AM   #3
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Holy crap! If that is for real, it looks sweet as hell. I am going to have to try to find out some more about this product.

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Old 07-18-2002, 11:56 AM   #4
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My engine management system on my civic allows for a launch rev limit, and a WOT shift rev limit....

the WOT shift is an awesome feature, as far as I can tell, it shaved at least 3/10s off my best time.... the only downside for some people , is that you dont hear the BOV during shifts, because you never lose boost while shifting... (i love that about it, because you dont have to re-build your boost after a shift)

I would love to get that setup on my rex, at a reasonable price that is....
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Old 07-18-2002, 01:02 PM   #5
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The price is very reasonable. Now we just have to find out if the Aussie guys have tried it.
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Old 07-18-2002, 10:41 PM   #6
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Yeah, 80 bones does seem very reasonable. But is it built using quality parts.

Some one in Australia has got to know! MRT is listed as one of their vendors, I'll try e-mailing them.
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Old 07-18-2002, 11:04 PM   #7
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the unichip can perform both these functions as well
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Old 07-18-2002, 11:19 PM   #8
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the unichip can perform both these functions as well
That is if you can get your tuner of choice to activate it

I think launch control will become alot more available in the near future.

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Old 07-19-2002, 12:01 AM   #9
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You know what I hate? these....


Come on mister Monster cough up the details !
Or do you suffer from Jorgilitis...the secret disease
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Old 07-19-2002, 02:35 AM   #10
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The question is whether or not it'll work with your ignition (being a direct-fire setup).
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Old 07-19-2002, 10:14 AM   #11
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The question is whether or not it'll work with your ignition (being a direct-fire setup).
thats what I was thinking.... because the MSD box would do it, but not with our factory ignition...
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:19 AM   #12
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You know what I hate? these....


Come on mister Monster cough up the details !
Or do you suffer from Jorgilitis...the secret disease
Soon all will be revealed, my young padwan. Very soon.


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Old 07-19-2002, 11:26 AM   #13
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please elaborate more on the unichips ability to accomplish this, and how to turn it on.

thank you
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:41 AM   #14
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please elaborate more on the unichips ability to accomplish this, and how to turn it on.

thank you
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You can`t turn it on. The tuner TXS/Cobb/Shiv or someone with Unichip tuning equipment needs to enable it.

I don`t know of anyone in a WRX who has it enabled.

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Old 08-01-2002, 11:47 AM   #15
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Old 08-01-2002, 11:54 AM   #16
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So are you running it?

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Old 08-01-2002, 12:05 PM   #17
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This makes it quite obvious that they've never tested it with the 2002 WRX. I'd be surprised if killing the crankshaft position signal would work.

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Old 08-01-2002, 12:11 PM   #18
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from http://www.t-sport.com/faq.html :

T-SPORT Flat-Shift FAQ


Q: I was wondering if the T-Sport Flat Shift would work on a direct fire ignition vehicle; I have a 2002 Subaru WRX (US). Thank you.

A: T-SPORT Flat-Shift is specifically designed to work with cars that have multiple ignition coils. The primary means of reducing power when you prepare to launch or flat shift using T-SPORT Flat-Shift is by turning off power to the fuel injectors in millisecond bursts at their central source of power. Very often on direct fire engines the multi ignition coils are on the same power bus and as a result are turned off in tandem with the fuel injectors. If the coils are on a separate circuit then we can connect to the crank angle sensor and turn that off in tandem with the injectors to ensure no spark will occur. The reason we turn injectors off and not just try to only kill spark is that with a spark only system the injectors will still be pumping at their normal rate and unburned raw fuel will very quickly destroy your very expensive catalytic converter. The reason we turn off spark as well as fuel is a safety measure to ensure any remaining amounts of fuel still entering the engine while the fuel injectors are being turned off doesn't ignite causing lean burn and possibly damaging your engine.


now how bout that.

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Old 08-01-2002, 02:43 PM   #19
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I've used the Unichip "launch control" on my WRX and have helped others set it up. It's nothing really new, just not something we suggest on daily driven cars.

I guess none of your guys have enjoyed the experience of spitting a shim yet in your valvetrain? Can't wait to see those pictures posted on the i-club.

If anyone wants us to "activate" it, we're more than happy. We'll just stock up on our shim under conversion kits in preperation for the pending aftermath.

Have fun!
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Old 08-01-2002, 02:53 PM   #20
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Is there any other method of launch control which is safer to use?

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I've used the Unichip "launch control" on my WRX and have helped others set it up. It's nothing really new, just not something we suggest on daily driven cars.

I guess none of your guys have enjoyed the experience of spitting a shim yet in your valvetrain? Can't wait to see those pictures posted on the i-club.

If anyone wants us to "activate" it, we're more than happy. We'll just stock up on our shim under conversion kits in preperation for the pending aftermath.

Have fun!
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Old 08-01-2002, 03:59 PM   #21
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Is there any other method of launch control which is safer to use?

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Old 08-01-2002, 04:32 PM   #22
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Well if it doesn't use spark/fuel cuts to operate, how does it work? If it does use spark/fuel, how does it not have affect on the shims? Yeah Yeah...prerelease this and that. Trey, any comments?

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Old 08-01-2002, 04:36 PM   #23
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Can you elaborate on the shims? I thought the only thing that affects them is high rpms?

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Old 08-01-2002, 07:12 PM   #24
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If you thought your 1.8 sec 60 footer launch was good, wait till you try launch control.
A friend has it on his talon, lets just say you'll need a neck brace after a couple of launches.
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Old 08-02-2002, 09:38 PM   #25
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I had it on my gvr4, took all the guess work out of drag racing,hold the throttle down and hang on!! It was great!!..........almost forgot about those 2 broken transmissions
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