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Old 04-12-2001, 05:00 PM   #1
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Post Suspension question for you rallyists

How does the Leda rally suspension set up compare to the DMS 50mm system?
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Old 04-12-2001, 05:59 PM   #2
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If you ask a LEDA distributor, you may get a different answer, but everyone I've talked to says hands down DMS is the way to go. So, that's the way I'm going.

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Old 04-12-2001, 06:42 PM   #3
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DMS.. PERIOD!

i got them, and i will probably get them for my next car too.
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Old 04-12-2001, 06:44 PM   #4
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I don't know about the Leda suspension, all I know is my 50 MM DMS kick ass!
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Old 04-13-2001, 05:08 AM   #5
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Go with the DMS its the "BOMB". Dave Clark is cool and give's good service to most of the rally team's in the U.S and CANADA.

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Old 04-13-2001, 06:30 AM   #6
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do not double/cross post please!!!! only post this question in 1 forum... you have to choose the most appropriate forum....
which would be suspension in this case...

but since you're already here... i'll delete the other one..

oh and...

there's no comparison.
LEDA's are not rally ready.

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Old 04-13-2001, 06:59 AM   #7
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Non rally Ledas (like the ones Pat Richard was using) are not rally ready. The real Leda rally coilovers work just fine for thousands of rallyists worldwide. I wouldn't rally on DMS Golds either.

That said, I upgraded from Leda rally (but non-reservoir) coilovers to DMS 50mm and the difference is significant. DMS is terrific, but the Ledas are a fine budget alternative.
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Old 04-13-2001, 06:33 PM   #8
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Tom is right....DMS

just bring a fat wallet

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Old 04-15-2001, 09:18 AM   #9
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Is Proflex planning on making a rally suspension for the Impreza? Or does one already exist? I hear they're decent.
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Old 04-15-2001, 09:45 AM   #10
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the Proflex set up does exist.. in the UK...
cost? I hear roughly 5k to 6k
and the DMS are just as good... if not better...

and no. i am not just saying that cuz i have them... i am saying that because for their price, they are the toughest most durable/reliable set up on the market.

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Old 04-15-2001, 06:20 PM   #11
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now..what about some 60's in all seriousness..and would i be able to get some for a UR quattro or a Ford Sierra Cosworth or *cough* EVO? (all 3 i am contemplating getting-sold ALL my projects but one minor.. so now i am getting one BIG one) Thanks in advance

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Old 04-15-2001, 10:21 PM   #12
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The 50mm Giant Struts are available for all three of those cars and the 60mm Super Struts are also available for the Lancer Evo.

BTW, I've been driving around in a '98 RS with the 60mm Super Struts and they are just AMAZING! It's hard to believe this is a full on rally suspension. It's hard to describe, they are firm yet soft. Because of the hydraulic bump stop they use a much softer spring the the 50mm for better traction. You get weight transfer but not really any body roll, just a little and it takes a set. These things ride better on the street than the stock suspension, with absolutely no (zero, nada) bounciness on the freeway. Yet you can drive over potholes, speedbumps, curbs, the bicycle of the kid that didn't get out of the way in time and not even feel it. It's almost weird to drive on a suspension that's so compliant and cush yet corners so solidly.

Just remember, it's fairly complex and specialized, low production, meant for world level rallying, and costs about $6500!
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Old 04-15-2001, 10:25 PM   #13
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hey DMS-USA,
if an RS owner would like to be able to corner hard track wise and not be afraid of breaking the suspension from rally-X or slight jumping (from the "bump" of a bridge for example, not too high...) and have a cushy ride what would you suggest?
please don't say the $6,500 60mm
oh yeah and the rallying would be very infrequent...

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Old 04-16-2001, 12:07 AM   #14
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I'd say DMS 50mm Rally because that's what I have. But that makes me biased I guess. I loved how adjustable they are and how well my car handles with them and SP8000's. However, after being back in CO I've noticed that driving in deep snow (the snow storm that just hit us last week) that the SP8000's really suck in the snow. Which is not the suspensions fault but it makes it more noticeable since every little twist of the wheel is transmitted so much faster. Anyways, with the 50mm my car handles like a demon and I don't slow down for potholes or bumps in the road because the car remains so settled. I've lowered my car a lot (about a one inch gap between my tires and the wheel well) but I've never grounded out even though I've caught some good air off of some speed bumps. Lol, guess they don't really work on a car w/ dms. I'm not saying that the struts are indestructable but I am pretty confident that when these things are designed to get pummeled by rocks and jumps in rallies, there's not a lot you can do on the street that will upset them. Lol, the good news for you is I've decided to sell my RS and get a WRX so I am selling my 50s. It's been a really hard decision and it's really kind of bittersweet because I'll miss my first Scoob so much. I know I can use the suspension on the WRX but I don't know if I'm going to modify my WRX because I have to haul around important clients now and they're used to their Lexus' and stuff. Anyways, even if you don't get mine I totally recommend the 50mms. Check the Rocky Mountain Region if your interested.

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Old 04-16-2001, 01:05 AM   #15
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I haven't tried them, but unlike 90% of the suspention items out there it is very apparent that the DMS isn't 1/2 @ssed. They seemed to have designed from the top of the market down to a lower cost level, instead of the usual *******deluxe to a higher price point.
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Old 04-16-2001, 01:18 AM   #16
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Hey Kaos- If you're not planning on stage rallying it (rallycross is fine) the DMS Gold is plenty strong. It has a good street ride and is the most affordable DMS.

The 50mm Giant Struts come in a street version and they are built exactly the same and are just as strong as the rally units Pat Richard won 3 championships with last year. The street versions definitely have a better ride than the rally units but the Golds are better still.

Chaincat- for snow driving you want to set the damping at the softest levels. Because there is so little grip in the snow and ice you need to do whatever you can to promote weight transfer to get cornering grip. Removing the swaybars will help, too.

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