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Old 02-16-2012, 01:21 AM   #601
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I've been disappointed with the ts options out there for the 2.5l cars. For a while I was dead set on doing a vf36/7 and being done but I didnt like the powerband or the power output. I looked at the upgraded stocj location ts turbos and they all were very disappointing.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:59 AM   #602
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Blouch/SC46 converted from a VF37 hotside on a 2.5L EFI Logics Stage 1 block. I was hoping for more power, but was told by Chris that the hotside is what's holding it back. The car feels nice, smooth, and responsive. It has power, but is slower than unclematt's setup by a couple hundred RPM's down low (when comparing our dyno runs on EFI's site).

What fuel?
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:16 AM   #603
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Not bad #'s though for only 22-20 PSI. Looks like a sweet ride! The new Blouch hotsides are larger so there may be an upgrade path for you there but the SC46 billet wheel is happy in the 25-26PSI range I thought? Or did Chris feel that the housing was choking flow and could not turn the boost up any higher due to surging/creep?
Chris said the turbine housing is chocking flow and any attempt to increase boost resulted in knock. If I did get a larger housing, he said there might be another 20WHP or so. I think it might be difficult to get one of the new housings since they technically are for SC. I will probably keep it as is for now.

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93 Octane
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:38 AM   #604
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Chris said the turbine housing is chocking flow and any attempt to increase boost resulted in knock. If I did get a larger housing, he said there might be another 20WHP or so. I think it might be difficult to get one of the new housings since they technically are for SC. I will probably keep it as is for now.

93 Octane
So this is on a legacy with the 2.5? What type of heads?
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:59 AM   #605
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So this is on a legacy with the 2.5? What type of heads?
Yup, on stock heads.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:14 AM   #606
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Yup, on stock heads.
I don't know much about the Legacy, what are the differences between it and the STi? I would assume a much less aggressive head/cam. In which case a STi would probably net another 20whp+.
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It looks pretty good for essentially a DOM 1.5XTR on 93 Fuel, especially at only 21 PSI. Seems odd that the car didn't like more boost, as it has a much larger Turbine than a Stock VF36/37.

Any plans for an E85 Tune later?
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:00 PM   #608
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It looks pretty good for essentially a DOM 1.5XTR on 93 Fuel, especially at only 21 PSI. Seems odd that the car didn't like more boost, as it has a much larger Turbine than a Stock VF36/37.

Any plans for an E85 Tune later?
It's especially odd when you see the scoobynet guys pushing 24psi without issues. Still looks good for 93 octane and with TONS of power under the curve, it also holds well up to redline.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:28 PM   #609
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I don't know much about the Legacy, what are the differences between it and the STi? I would assume a much less aggressive head/cam. In which case a STi would probably net another 20whp+.
I think the heads are different, but I'm not sure of the exact differences. It could be minor.

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Any plans for an E85 Tune later?
No plans for E85 anytime soon as there's no easy access near my area.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:10 PM   #610
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I don't know much about the Legacy, what are the differences between it and the STi? I would assume a much less aggressive head/cam. In which case a STi would probably net another 20whp+.

Legacy engine has AVCS only on the intake valves. STi has dual AVCS and the STi manifold/TMIC setup. Otherwise the other differences are minor. (Not including the crappy stock LGT turbos)
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:12 PM   #611
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It's especially odd when you see the scoobynet guys pushing 24psi without issues.
Probably more boost since the euro guys have 2.0's and not the USDM 2.5
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Probably more boost since the euro guys have 2.0's and not the USDM 2.5
A couple of them are doing it with 2.5's
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Euros are all 2.5 the only 2.0l running these turbos are the JDM cars with stronger engines as standard.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #614
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Euros are all 2.5 the only 2.0l running these turbos are the JDM cars with stronger engines as standard.
The new ones are 2.5, but the ones before are all 2.0.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:17 PM   #615
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Any updates? I might be the next one to take the plunge. I'm also going to try to test a Kinugawa 60-1 and Tomioka 20G both in T/S if funds allow and can get a break on the tuning/dyno costs.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:18 PM   #616
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Any updates? I might be the next one to take the plunge. I'm also going to try to test a Kinugawa 60-1 and Tomioka 20G both in T/S if funds allow and can get a break on the tuning/dyno costs.
Skip the tomioka, I have it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:24 PM   #617
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Skip the tomioka, I have it.

Is that the one with the late spool? Thanks for the heads up!

Has anyone else tried the 60-1/TD-06SL2 Kinugawa yet?
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Not late spool, just low on power. My tuner has done a couple of them, he explained why it was low but it was over my head. Still put up 348 on the blacktop but should have made about 30 more. On this dyno, that is.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:45 PM   #619
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350whp seems pretty reasonable for a 20G if you're running straight pump gas... Did you have meth or E85 or something else like that?
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I'll be going back to EFI for the larger Blouch hot side on the SC46 at the end of this month. Hopefully it will show some nice gains without sacrificing much down low.
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I'll be going back to EFI for the larger Blouch hot side on the SC46 at the end of this month. Hopefully it will show some nice gains without sacrificing much down low.
Are you referring to the new Blouch Twin Scroll Hotside, that Scooby Clinic recently has been testing?
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Are you referring to the new Blouch Twin Scroll Hotside, that Scooby Clinic recently has been testing?
The hotsides are made by Blouch. Whether they are the same as the ones SC are testing, I cannot confirm because I don't know. All I know is it is a slightly larger twinscroll hotside that I'll be getting.
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The hotsides are made by Blouch. Whether they are the same as the ones SC are testing, I cannot confirm because I don't know. All I know is it is a slightly larger twinscroll hotside that I'll be getting.
That's cool. I am going to assume it's the same Hotside as SC. Good to know someone can call Blouch and get the new Hotside and not have to send their own P25 housing to them.
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Depending on how well the new hot side does compared to the old housings.......I may consider sending mine in for a update. It would need to be a big enough difference, but not a high price.
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