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Old 01-06-2012, 04:27 PM   #1
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Hi NESIC!

My scooby and I might be moving to the area in the next 6 months, and I'm hoping to get a bit of feedback on what it's like to live in Burlington, VT, Springfield, MA, and Bridgeport, CT. I need to be able to rank these to figure out which I would more likely want to wind up in, and as always, I figure NASIOC has the answer.

Which of these are awesome to live in? Which are hell?

I've only lived in Canuckistan for my whole life, and I have never been to any of these cities, let alone states. How does a Canuckistani get by South of the border? Will Newt Gingrich eat me if I say the wrong thing?


EDIT: Also any feedback on Syracuse, NY would be valuable too!


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Old 01-06-2012, 04:33 PM   #2
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Stay the hell out of Springfield. Easily the worst of all 3.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:43 PM   #3
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I put Bridgeport and Springfield right at the same level. VERY big difference between Burlington and those two and if you had the option I would suggest VT. They both have VERY dangerous areas and neither are a place I would ever advise raising a child or something of the like. Granted, just outside of both Bridgeport and Springfield are pretty decent towns to live in, so if work is what is motivating the move I wouldn't turn down a better opportunity strictly from all the negative you will hear of both places.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:43 PM   #4
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But the Simpsons looked so happy........


Also, any feedback on Syracuse would be great. For proximity to family, Syracuse and Burlington are the most reasonable, but other factors are huge too, so mo info mo betta.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:46 PM   #5
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I put Bridgeport and Springfield right at the same level. VERY big difference between Burlington and those two and if you had the option I would suggest VT. They both have VERY dangerous areas and neither are a place I would ever advise raising a child or something of the like. Granted, just outside of both Bridgeport and Springfield are pretty decent towns to live in, so if work is what is motivating the move I wouldn't turn down a better opportunity strictly from all the negative you will hear of both places.
Good to know.

I would not have to live in the city, just within 20 mins drive or so. That being said, I am used to living in large cities (Toronto), and the culture of a dense area appeals to me. Dangerous areas aside, are there unique things to do in these places? Moving is a pain.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:35 PM   #6
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To come to the US, don't say "about" like you do "a-bow-t". Say it more like a-bout, like a boxing match. Sort of don't say the "w" sound.

Don't say "eh" ever.

The letter "Z" is pronounced ZEE, not zed.

In the greater Boston area, drive exactly like they do on island in Montreal, but get really pissed (mad) when people cut you off last second. Don't use your directional. Drive only in the far left lane.



I've lived in Springfield. I've taken a wrong turn in Bridgeport. Had I not lived in Springfield, I would be so dead that I'd be .....something really dead.


Burlington, VT. U of Vermont and Ben and Jerry's. That's all there. You'll likely be mugged by a cow or someone making one of those bear-gram things.



Now, on the good side of both Bridgeport and Springfield.....for Springfield, pretty much any town south, west or east is ok. Sorry....I worked in Chicopee and Holyoke and am not a fan....although they're not horrible.....well, Holyoke is mostly. Bridgeport, I used to have IPC as a customer. You drive around a corner and you're going from nightmare ghetto to a Porsche dealer, Starbucks and swanky people. Twilight zone.


Oh, and we have no VAT here. And our money doesn't have ducks all over it.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:35 PM   #7
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Those are three very different cities. But being within 20 minutes of any of them puts you in very nice places. Surrounding Bridgeport is big money and crowded, Springfield is pretty rural, Burlington is super rural and sparse. Cost of living, taxes and pay will be highest by far in the Bridgeport area.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:24 AM   #8
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Burlington is the only nice city on your list. Of course it's more like a big town than a city. It's probably not too different from what you're used to in Canananada. The people are nice, the scenery is beautiful, and everything is frozen solid 14 months out of the year.

Bridgeport and Springfield are more typical Americun cities. Crime, poverty, and huge disparities based on race and class structure. The only good thing Bridgeport has going for it is it's proximity to NYC (which is by comparison a nice city, which is why no one can afford to live there).

Also: People from Mass are literally the worst drivers on the face of the planet. No matter where you move, be on your guard for these satanic minions of the freeway.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:46 AM   #9
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Also: People from Mass are literally the worst drivers on the face of the planet. No matter where you move, be on your guard for these satanic minions of the freeway.
Hey, I resemble that remark!
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:54 AM   #10
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//Also: People from Mass are literally the worst drivers on the face of the planet. No matter where you move, be on your guard for these satanic minions of the freeway.
Yeah, especially the immature twits that street race Minis in Boston neighborhoods.

OP, with Syracuse you've named four cities that are up to 200 miles apart. Where is your family or work that you're moving?
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:23 AM   #11
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Moving anywhere outside of springfield is a good idea, I live about 20 minutes away, and its awesome. I work in springfield just about everyday...in some of the worst neighborhoods..don't move there.
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:33 AM   #12
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I'd think Northampton or Amherst would be a better bet. Northampton being more convenient to highways.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:36 AM   #13
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Burlington vt is making top 10 places to live list constantly...here's a quick 3 I found

ranked as #1 city for men, by Men's Health
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1184099.html

ranked #1 green city
http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/greencities.aspx

#8 city for the next decade
http://www.kiplinger.com/magazine/ar...xt-decade.html

as a side note, it is city law that you can't leave your car idling...not exactly good for winter months
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:39 AM   #14
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Stay the hell out of Springfield. Easily the worst of all 3.
I don't know, I only saw 2 shootings and 6 drug deals in the two years I was there.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:46 AM   #15
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I agree with Garandman, if you choose Springfield, Northampton and Amherst are beautiful and not a bad commute. Lots of colleges in the area, good bars and restaurants, etc. Springfield proper is.... rough, so you'll want to leave as soon as work gets out. I'd put this second on the list.

Bridgeport is tough because the city itself is garbage, and the surrounding nice suburbs are ungodly expensive. Close to NYC by train which is nice. Still probably last on the list.

Syracuse isn't bad, there's a decent amount to do, and there are nice areas. Real estate is cheap and you can get into a really nice house for what a 2 bedroom ranch would cost here in CT. They get a TON of snow though and I've heard from friends with family in the area that it can be hard to find a decent job. Tied for last with Bridgeport.

Burlington is my favorite on your list. Montreal is less than 2 hours away and is an easy day trip to the big city. Burlington itself is a smaller city but has lots to do and a younger population. I'd move there in a heartbeat, but my GF would never go for it. The people are nice and if you like the outdoors, photography, and beer then you'll never be bored.
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:50 PM   #16
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I grew up in Burlington and absolutley loved the area, would have stayed up there, but there are very few decent paying career type jobs unless you work at IBM, IDX, GD or the University. The salary to cost of living in this area has skewed quite a bit in the last 10 years as well, which means you'll still have a 30 minute commute just to afford to live unless you want to live in the college area with all the students.

I've owned a house in West Springfield (completely different then Springfield, but visited often enough) it's an OK city, but has it's drug issues just like any other city, I'd rank it maybe a half point above Hartford CT, which I really hate.

Can't say anything towards Bridgeport, save for what Jack already echo'd.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:51 PM   #17
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I've never lived in any of those places but:

1) Burlington is nice but as mentioned, not as good for career/etc.
2) CT is blah as a state in general.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:37 AM   #18
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2) CT is blah as a state in general.
CT and MA are very similar, way more in common that not. Is Worcester not "blah"?
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:38 AM   #19
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I think Stamford is better than bp!
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:57 AM   #20
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Bridgeport: Has some nice areas (also some HORRIBLE), very close to NYC if you're into that. But it will be the most expensive of any of the 3 and one of the most expensive areas in the US to afford.

Springfield: The area around Springfield has appeal, if you could go to Northampton or East Hampton, MA, I think you'd feel right at home, it's a very mellow, liberal, college area. always something to do, see, eat or drink... mmmmmm brewery....

Burlington: Great little city, lots to do in the summer and winter, but is ridiculously far from anything. But that's coming from someone in CT who gets annoyed when something is 45 minutes away
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:01 AM   #21
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CT and MA are very similar, way more in common that not. Is Worcester not "blah"?
Come on, Worcester has..... that failing mall with an open Foot Locker.... that pizza place that made me sick.... The Palladium... all those hills that are impossible to park on.

and... Sarah!
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:30 PM   #22
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Me and my brother lived in Bridgeport since we were born and it really isn't that bad as long as you're street smart and not too naive. Did you know people in Trumbull and Shelton leave everything they own unlocked???

My brother recently moved to Springfield to be closer to work, and I must say that it is more city-like than Bridgeport but is more limited in things to do and didn't see that family friendly. Springfield has strip clubs, bars, adult stuff basically. Bridgeport as ****ty as it is has close proximity to the same things as well as family oriented things in surrounding towns. As other said, it has a great [45 min] proximity to NYC and Flushing, but Springfield is easily accessible to Hartford and surrounding MA towns.

Northhampton left me with a sour feeling since it seemed like a lot of the local crowd is sorta hipster judgemental.

I just passed by Burlington on a trip to Montreal and it seemed like a quaint little town but it is really really out of the way and far from anything. All in all it depends on the lifestyle you're coming from and the lifestyle you're looking to grow into.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:47 PM   #23
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Another plus to Burlington, likely closer to your current home as well!

I lived in the one of two suburban areas of Springfield for 5 years, no issues there, but the city itself, especially the more urban areas can be a little rough. The towns around it, like everyone has said, are where to look.

Syracuse can be a pit as well. Other than the University, that is another dead/dying city.

Best of luck wherever you go!
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You'd be better off staying in Canada.
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CT and MA are very similar, way more in common that not. Is Worcester not "blah"?
MA has Boston. And the ratio of times I've been in Boston and times I've been in Hartford and heard gun shots aren't even close.

I spent almost every weekend in CT for 6 months a few years back and I just find most things in MA are more convenient. If you live in the suburbs in MA there are 3 Targets about 20-30min from you. Not to mention CVS's in MA are mostly 24 hours. And if they aren't 24 hours they are open past 9pm.

I didn't say I hate all that is CT. And I think Worcester/MA is less blah than Hartford/CT.

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Come on, Worcester has..... that failing mall with an open Foot Locker.... that pizza place that made me sick.... The Palladium... all those hills that are impossible to park on.

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Hi Bry!

That mall is crap. But Shrewsbury Street restaurants are great. And the Blackstone Canal area is really up and coming with restaurants and bars.

The Palladium is an amazing piece of history that would be amazing if restored (fun fact: there is a bowling alley in the basement). But at least it's a place for national acts to perform.

And yes, the hills are hard. But not impossible. I lived on one for 4 years and survived. You just need more practice.

And awwww... Thanks!
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