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Old 05-13-2011, 01:18 PM   #26
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Dude. It's gonna be awesome. I knew this girl in high school that had on orange BRAT with the seats in the back. She wasn't even that great looking but the fact that she drove a BRAT made her totally hot.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:20 PM   #27
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Dude. It's gonna be awesome. I knew this girl in high school that had on orange BRAT with the seats in the back. She wasn't even that great looking but the fact that she drove a BRAT made her totally hot.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:17 PM   #28
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surprised with the lack of rust> as of most japanese cars of that era, Rust was the main killer of them. nice to see someone taking the time to clean up a now rare car.
Good job
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:15 PM   #29
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I'd get that coolant and oil changed ASAP, even the transmission and diff fluid. You don't want to drive around on crappy coolant or you can burn up the motor pretty quick.

BTW, go with the Subaru coolant (don't buy generic crap), and use the $2 conditioner with it. It will help plug up some of the leaks if you don't plan on doing a rebuild anytime soon.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:50 PM   #30
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I'd get that coolant and oil changed ASAP, even the transmission and diff fluid. You don't want to drive around on crappy coolant or you can burn up the motor pretty quick.

BTW, go with the Subaru coolant (don't buy generic crap), and use the $2 conditioner with it. It will help plug up some of the leaks if you don't plan on doing a rebuild anytime soon.
This all will be done once I get everything. Luckily I have some Subaru coolant lying around the garage. Waiting on an oil filter and I am just going to throw in some 10w40. These things aren't picky like the newer Subarus are as far as oil is concerned.

The coolant obviously isn't in the greatest shape, but it has kept the car cool the few times I had it going. Never got past the halfway mark on the gauge.

No burning through the exhaust, no coolant leaks anywhere. No oil leaks, just a little gathering around the drain plug, but nothing to be worried about. Exhaust leaks everywhere. Headers, are leaky, somebody bent a bolt on the midpipe so that is a little loose.

It is a little hesitant at small throttle openings. I am going to replace the second fuel filter when that comes in and replace all of the millions of vacuum lines. Possible clog in the cat as well.

There is also something rattling in the cat. Nothing around the cat is loose, so I will be removing the exhaust and assessing that. Most likely I will be going catless and I'll weld up a 2.5" exhaust for it. Being that the car is 27 years old, no emissions test is needed so it would most certainly be cheaper to run without a cat then to buy a different one.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:08 PM   #31
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Replaced the second fuel filter, oil filter and changed out the oil on this rainy day. Luckily there was enough room in my garage to peek the BRAT's head in so it wasn't too bad.

I will be getting new radiator hoses tomorrow and installing those along with some new coolant.

Finished school today so now it's just BRAT and work.

Then I will be assessing the interior rust and rocker panels so I can fix that, get the interior all back together and get this beast on the road. I will deal with the outer body rust after the interior rust is removed and interior put back together.

I'm also looking for jumpseats with the seatbelts. If anyone has them and wants to get rid of them let me know. I have to be able to haul around more than 1 person, especially with summer coming up.
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:12 PM   #32
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Changed out the radiator hoses and coolant yesterday.

Now I'm on the lookout for some sheet metal and maybe some rocker panels if I can find them. If not, I'll have to make a stencil and send it to an auto body shop, or fab it up myself.

Compression test will be done when I change out the spark plugs, just to be sure.

Anyways, I haven't had any new pics of the car, but my father did find a lot of pics of him and his friends' old Subarus, so I'll put them here for your viewing pleasure.

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Old 05-18-2011, 12:14 PM   #33
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:31 PM   #34
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^HAHAH!

****ing awesome.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:46 PM   #35
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I actually found a company that makes rocker panels for the older Subarus. Mill Supply Inc. has rocker panels that are for the older wagons, but the bodys are all very similar with eachother, so all I have to do is cut off the rear quarter and everything should fit in very nicely. Even if they aren't identical, they should be close enough.

I just ordered those so once those come in, the old quarter panels will come out and the new ones welded in.

Still looking for some good sheet metal for the cab floor.

Nothing really new since I got the car running. The gas gauge does infact work, I'm thinking that the float got stuck after sitting so long so it just needed some new gas in there to get it moving so now all of my gauges work.

Also the passenger's side front blinker bulb is on it's way out so I will be replacing that.
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:56 PM   #36
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good luck wtih your little project. looks like you're having fun.
I picked up an 86 a couple months ago, but Im about to put it up for sale...it was fun while it lasted, lol.
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Old 05-21-2011, 01:11 AM   #37
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:38 PM   #38
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Despite how annoying this rainy weather has been, it has helped me to discover a few new oil leaks.

I've found old oil (black) coming from the screw on the oil pressure sending unit showed here:


And I've also found new oil (golden) coming from this seam that connects the oil filter to the block. I ran the engine and watched it gather at this seam. It is not collecting from anywhere above, it is most certainly seeping through this crease shown below:


I will be looking through my dealer repair manuals and part booklets that I acquired (Thanks a lot to my friends at the parts department) too see if there is any gaskets or anything that seals these parts off.

But if anyone could chime in and save me some time that would be great too.

Thanks.
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:03 PM   #39
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New oil senders and oil pump gaskets/o-rings are available. So are new oil pumps if you need one.

Also check E-bay if dealer parts aren't available.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:35 PM   #40
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New oil senders and oil pump gaskets/o-rings are available. So are new oil pumps if you need one.

Also check E-bay if dealer parts aren't available.
Thanks Kosta, I actually went through my parts catalog and found a few o-rings and a new gasket. Just have to bring the part numbers to the dealer and hope they have something. If not I'll go elsewhere.

I hope I won't be needing a new oil pump soon. I just got one for my Legacy in hopes of getting rid of my cold start HLA noise. It would be nice if it would stop raining so I could actually get something done before my summer class starts.

But the BRAT is good for now. Oil pressure is where it needs to be with cold starts, idle, and driving.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:49 PM   #41
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When I got out of work today, I had decided to tackle my leaking oil pump. I cleaned off the area around the pump sо I could pinpoint exactly where it was leaking. Ran the car and it turned out that it was leaking from the top of oil pump where it meets the block.

Took off my alternator belt and removed the crank pulley. This is pretty easy being in gear with a large pair of pliers to hold the pulley, and a nice breaker bar. One tough push and the bolt becomes nice and loose.



I then went ahead and disconnected the pressure sender and removed the four bolts from the oil pump. With a few light taps, the pump came right out and very little oil followed to my surprise. I removed the gasket from the block and then assessed the o-rings on the pump. There was a good amount of oil collected around the oil pump assembly, so I'm guessing that the paper gasket finally crapped out.

There is one o-ring on the outside of the pump. This o-ring was in pretty good shape, still somewhat bendy.

After taking the pump apart, there are 2 o-rings. One along the by-pass valve spring and one around the gearing of the pump. Both of these o-rings were brittle and stiff and broke into little pieces.



Took out all of the old o-rings, cleaned off the o-ring area and replaced them with the new ones. Cleaned off the mating surface of the oil pump to the block and set the new gasket there. This gasket was just cheap paper, but it has done the job well so far.

Here is a picture of the inside of the block. I took it as a reference to reset the gearing on the oil pump so it would slide in no problems:


Bolted on the oil pump nice and good, reconnected the pressure sender, bolted the crank pulley back on and tightened up my alternator belt. I will be needing a new drive belt for that as well, this one is cracking up.

Started up the car, oil pressure was good to go. Waited and watched the oil pump for leaks until the car got up to operating temp triggering the fan. No oil leakage anywhere so now the oil pump is nicely sealed and ready to roll.

Unfortunately, I don't think I will be able to make it to this Wednesday's meet with the BRAT. Everything is ready to go except for the bill of sale. I mailed it out early this week to the previous owner, but I have not gotten it back yet so that is the only thing holding this back from hitting the road.

Still waiting on the rocker panels. Looking for sheet metal so I can weld up the interior and get it all back together.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:28 AM   #42
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Just got off the phone with Hagerty Classic Car Insurance and I have some ridiculously good news.

The car will only cost $150 a year to insure it (It's main use will be pleasure with limited amount of miles per year). I will probably only drive it to Subaru meets and a little pleasure driving here and there.

The car will be covered up to $8,000 after the first year it is registered!!! No deductible or anything!

So I will certainly not be spending $7,000 to get it in great shape because I will be doing most of the work myself. I'm thinking that the most money I will spend on it is to have the dents removed and resprayed professionally, which at that shouldn't cost an insane amount of money.

I am going to keep it the same color because I really like this color. So in terms of respraying it, only the outside will be done because it will all remain the same color, and the interior certainly does not need to be sanded down and resprayed as most of it will be covered by interior carpet and whatnot, and it will all be the same color.

Get new BRAT decals, even though the one's on it currently are in good shape, they certainly won't be there after the respray. Get all new trim pieces which I'm sure I'll be nickeled and dimed for.

But before all of that I need to weld in new interior panels, front frame rails, rocker panels, reinforce rear shock towers and weld in new panels where all of the rust exists on the outside of the car.

I'm getting very ahead of myself...

I just need to receive my filled out bill of sale and this thing will be ready to rock the streets.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:29 PM   #43
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Damn, it has certainly been a while since I have posted up. I've been getting a lot of overtime at work + school so things have been a little crazy throughout the past few weeks, leaving me little time to work on the BRAT.

I've gotten a little done though.

My father brought home some possible frame rail replacements. He is an insulator so he has access to materials. I'm not sure if these things will hold, but I'm sure they will hold a lot better than the rusty rails that are on the car right now.


Moved the BRAT out of the already Subaru crowded driveway because I haven't been able to do anything with it lately so this is where she currently resides.


Parked under some trees so of course some bird shat on my flawless T-Tops.


I felt like taking some pictures on this beautiful day and decided to snap a few pictures of the car.




I got in contact with a sandblasting place in Thomaston, and they said that they can sandblast and paint my rims for $35 each + supplies which doesn't sound like a bad deal. I might just have them sandblast them for $20 a piece and paint them myself, but we'll see how that plays out.

Still waiting on rocker panels from Mill Supply Inc... I should give them a call and see what the wait is all about. I ordered these things a good month ago.

And still waiting on the bill of sale... I talked to the kid last week and he informed me that the mail carrier retrieved the envelope with no bill of sale in it, so he said he would mail it out when he had the chance. That was over a week ago...

Oh yes, and to top it all off, Hagerty suddenly decided not to cover me anymore because I am only 18. They said they want to wait until I turn 20 to give me coverage so now I have to find a new insurance company. Eff me for being young right?

No progress yet really. Just waiting on parts, and documents.

Stuff has been busy.
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Old 06-23-2011, 11:25 AM   #44
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I got my bill of sale in the mail yesterday, so I now have all of the documentation I need to call it my car. Hopefully I will be able to get it registered this weekend and get it out on the road!

Also got my rocker panels from Mill Supply this morning. They are for a 4 door wagon, so they will need to be cut length-wise obviously, which is not a problem. They are also a little fatter than the current rockers on my BRAT, but other than that they match up pretty well.



Hoping to get this thing on the road this weekend so I can drive it around and get it to my father's buddy's house where he has a welder. Apparently my father used to have a welder but he sold it. Oh well, if worst comes to worst, I'll buy a welder and make a whole bunch of awesome stuff for this thing.
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Old 06-23-2011, 03:10 PM   #45
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I must say, this is one of the best threads I have ever read on here! I grew up in Subaru's and this just brings back memories. My Brother still drives my parents 1981 Wagon every day?! It has the third headlight in there as well. So many memories...

Thanks for sharing this with us all. Makes me want to go find a Brat, lol.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:45 PM   #46
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Ugh...

Upon driving the BRAT today then parking it, I found that I am hemorrhaging oil from the oil pressure sender. It is dripping once every second from the screw, my father says that this was pretty common and that all that needs to be done is to put some high pressure sealant around the screw and torque it back in nice and tight.

If anyone can chime in on this please help me out. I don't want to drive it with oil leaking this badly.
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:31 PM   #47
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Took a 5 hour road-trip today almost to the Vermont border for my $50 jumpseats with the mounting frame. Definitely worth the drive.

Quick mock-up of how it looks:



Still need to get it registered and fix the oil leak coming from the oil pressure sender.

Slowly making progress...
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:44 AM   #48
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I will be getting this thing registered this week, and I was thinking about getting a vanity plate for it.

I was thinking:


It's short for "Chicken Tax". I wish Connecticut allowed for 7 letters so I would be able to do CHKNTAX, but CHKNTX will have to do for now.

The significance of the chicken tax to Subaru BRATs has to do with the jumpseats. Prepare yourselves for a history lesson for those of you who don't already know...

Back in the day, Subarus were not manufactured in the US, but instead were imported from Japan. The Subaru BRAT was considered a light truck, and light trucks that were imported into the US would be charged a 25% tariff, known as the "Chicken Tax". Subaru evaded this tax by producing selected BRATs with the famous pair of jumpseats in the back, which would enable the vehicle to be considered a passenger vehicle which would only be charged a 2.5% tariff as opposed to the 25% tariff on light trucks.

So the jumpseats aren't there to look cool, they were mainly there for financial purposes and to evade a ridiculous 25% tariff.

Very clever if you ask me.

So what do you guys think, should I go with that vanity plate or no? Any other suggestions?
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:15 PM   #49
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I want a BRAT... this thing is so awesome.... wicked thread, and yes, go with the vanity plate, I like it!
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:13 PM   #50
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Great thread. I grew up in New Milford, and learned to drive stick in a puke yellow GL Wagon. We had a lot of fun in the snow in that thing!
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