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Old 03-05-2003, 06:13 PM   #1
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i'm selling my 97 GT to my best friend.
she is going to deck it out, but she wants me to pick out the parts for it. first off, tinting the windows. next is suspension. go whiteline? is the ride too tough? she likes the ride of the factory springs and struts, so she wanted just coilovers. i'm thinking we lower it and get some whiteline stuff, would you all agree?
body kit is next, along with rims. i want her to put the c-west body kit on it? or liberal, or hipposleek? i know none of them go right on, but they can be altered to fit nicely correct? rims, i was thinking something like the Tenzo SHU-4, or something like them. it is a silver car, so i was thinking about gunmetal rims. in fact, i know it will have gunmetal rims, but which ones i'm not sure of yet. TOYO PROXES for sure. now once that body kit is on, will the old fog lights fit? if not, what do we do? how about headlights? morettes? anyone have a pic? can you do anything with the tail lights? debadging car, and putting a sweet aluminum wing on back to make the car stand out. no flames please. what can we do to the engine to make this car tear up the pavement and dirt? is there a turbo you can get for it? if so, where and how much? any other parts? she can afford it all, so we're doing it all. let me know what to do guys. interior included, seats or just seat covers, short shifter, big brake kits, stereo set up. i want my fellow legacy people helping me out here. this will be the sweetest legacy around
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Old 03-05-2003, 06:24 PM   #2
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try the "search" function....works really well..
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Old 03-05-2003, 06:28 PM   #3
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i could do that, or i could use the "new thread" button and allow everyone to put in their own input on one thread. this will probably work better. but hey, thanks for the tip! now, i would assume you don't have any advice to give on here, it would seem, otherwise you would have given it. so my advice for you, if you don't have any helpful stuff to say, don't post.
am i right guys?
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Old 03-05-2003, 06:33 PM   #4
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I meant try "search" before you ask questions like that....there are literally HUNDREDS of different answers.....and besides,
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Old 03-05-2003, 06:59 PM   #5
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why search all these other posts, when all the info can be reposted into this, all in one. if i have to read 11436513462374 different posts, or i could just start one, and everyone could post in it. which is easier right? so therefor, no "search" is not a useful tip
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Old 03-05-2003, 07:06 PM   #6
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Why don't you pick out what you think will look nice?

Really, you can't truly expect answers to half your questions, as everyone has different opinions.

My input? You ought to read many, many posts here. And do some searches. Your topics are so varied that there's no way you're going to find all the info in one place. That's why we have a whole website. Trying to compile that much info into a single thread is hopeless.

Also, why do all kinds of stuff to a car that isn't yours anymore? Perhaps let the owner make some choices? Unless you are getting paid to modify her car...

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Old 03-05-2003, 07:21 PM   #7
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I think you should buy everything you listed. Your car will look sick.

Hope your friend has a LOT of money.

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Old 03-05-2003, 07:34 PM   #8
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when i told you that the body kits will have to be modded, i do not mean that they are ment for another car, i was saying that each body kit is not produced to perfect standards like the hand made ones, made by west wings. they will have to tweek the kits most of the time, sand some portions down, and at an extreem ad a little bit of resin to add filler to areas. most kits for like a honda take several hours to fit and make look good. then you have time to prime, paint, and remount.
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Old 03-05-2003, 08:18 PM   #9
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SubbyRS and KD7000 have a valid point, but maybe the real issue here is stated by the author. This is about what's easiest for the author, and your input will no doubt be offered as his own. My question? Why bother? Let him read what's readily available. And since he's soliciting opinions I feel comfortable offering mine.

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Old 03-05-2003, 09:00 PM   #10
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dojoromeo: What is your goal for the suspension. Realize we dont mod our cars just for the reason of being different. We have a goal in mind then find the items to reach that goal.

For wheels the same, if you want performance your probably better off with some very light 16x7. If your after looks plenty of HEAVY 18 inch are available.

As for body kits my personal opinion is that they are lame. I can see replacing the front bumper to have larger intercooler space or adding rear spats for aero but many of these kits will only make your car slower.
If you want to do it right take it to a professional, and they will tell you whats possible. Would you rather have a kit that every other Joe has or come up with your own design on what looks good. I dont see how you can ask us what body kits to buy.

If you are really lazy enough and think we somehow owe you a reply at least seperate your questions into different posts. Your questions are all over the place.

If you really want the sweetest legacy around and she has the money to spend, drop it off at a tuner and let them goto work. Then drop it off at a body shop and let them work. The result will be far more than you could accomplish on your own.
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Old 03-05-2003, 10:06 PM   #11
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thank you all for your opinions, greatly appreciated. with the suspension, i'm going for looks, and a tight ride. i want it lowered so it handles better, and looks better. the rims, 18s. gunmetal 18s. this post was about opinions. not so much a "what should i do" but what is your opinion. ciper, you said come up with my own design? how would one go about getting that made for the car? cuz i have ideas, but i would love to be able to take my idea, and have a kit made for it.
my goal is for a SHOW car, that turns all heads, and every legacy owner will appreciate. just wondering what was available for this car, and what everyone has had good luck with, and likes. if i haven't had the product, or heard anything about it, how can i know how good it is. this is why i asked for opinions, i'm sure most of you know more about this than i do, so i asked for opinions, anything you can offer, on any part of the discussion.

thanks everyone
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Old 03-05-2003, 10:23 PM   #12
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I see many cars with all sorts of weird items grafted into them, a good custom shop can do some pretty cool things. A quick way for you to get what you like and yet still be unique would be to grab a kit that you like that was intended for another car and have them graft it on.

Even though you mention performance it sounds like you going for looks, why else would you choose 18 rims?! My suggestion would be not to use 16 or MAYBE 17 and to lower it so that a normal size gap exists on ALL SIDES. I cant tell you how stupid it looks when you have an inch wide gap at the front and back but a 1/4 inch gap at the top.

If you want a legacy that all owners could apreciate you better change your direction. The overwealming majority of us would be more intersted in the performance and class of the vehicle rather than how much it sticks out. Think stealth-performance mobile.

You mention turning heads, a big silver wing will do this but it will be in disgust. This isnt Civic club you know.
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Old 03-05-2003, 10:53 PM   #13
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i don't want a stealth performance car, and neither does my friend. although, we are going to go a different direction. possibly carbon fiber. we do want a widebody kit though. now that would be sweet. performance is coming later, and they do make lightweight 18s. you don't have to get 40 lb wheels. you can get them at 10-15 lbs. so it is performance, but it's looks too. so are you saying that if i get a set of 18s, there will be a big gap on the sides, and none on the top? i haven't seen a lowered leg with 18s, so i don't know.
believe me, i do not want to be compared to a civic ever, suby is so much higher class. i think that the carbon fiber stuff that GTGUY is doing is great, and that's probably what we are going to do. what suggestions do you have for suspension products, what company is good quality, reasonable price, and reliable, whiteline? any good suggestion on a turbo?
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Old 03-06-2003, 01:24 PM   #14
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If you can find me a 10 lb 18 inch wheel I will suck your
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Old 03-06-2003, 01:49 PM   #15
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I was just reading this set of posts and I have to interject here.

First things first . . . If you haven't already, change the headgaskets to a copper type with an o-ringing of the block. Don't ask me why, just do it . . . you'll be glad you did . . . otherwise, you'll be seeing some crazy overheating issues in the next few months . . .

Now that I got that out of the way, let's see. JIC Coilovers, most likely the best coilover set out there, IMO, plus they give you the adjustability you want to "slam" your (or should I say, your friend's) car for shows and whatnot.

Bodykits. As many people here have stated the majority of body work will have to be custom. A few legacy owners here have CF hoods but I'm not sure if they're available anymore. Widebody kit? WHEW!! Expect to have the car in the shop for months having someone make a custom kit for your car. There are NO widebody kits available that I know of, even from Japan!!

Wheels. You're right that there are light wheels out there, but you can't deny that the set of lightweight 18s will pale by comparison to that same set in a 16 incher. I think that's what everyone's talking about with going for a smaller size, if performance is what you're after. My personal "looks-wise taste" is to have a smaller diameter wheel with a short sidewalled tire but to lower the car to get rid of the gaps. Much better than a larger wheel with small wheel gap but five inch clearance under that car.

The awd system robs ALOT of power, something like 40%, not to mention the car itself weighs 3200 lbs so if you want to be competitive, you have to lighten things up a little (besides put down some serious power).

Engine. Turbo . . . you can go the N/A route (Cobb Tuning has a buncha stuff for the 2.5L), but you'll never beat the results/$ that you can get out of a turbo setup.

Most of the people you'll come across here is more geared towards making their cars faster rather than look better first. I for one traded my 97GT for a 91 turbo legacy that can run circles around my car, even if I had done all of the Cobb tuning N/A work!! . . . . why, you ask? I got tired of being beaten by stock civic Sis!!! I hope you take this into consideration before you go the all-show-no-go-route . . . make the car faster, before look faster, IMO.

I think I touched on as many topics as I could find in your post . . . if there are more, post them here and I'll try to help.
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Old 03-06-2003, 01:56 PM   #16
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the 18s are summer wheels. the factory 16s will stay winter wheels. thanks for all the advice, you've been a great help. i think GTBGUY has a lot of carbon fiber stuff coming out, hoods, trunks, lips, bumpers, side skirts, interior pieces.
that should reduce the weight heavily.
i'm hoping to go that route with her car.
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Old 03-06-2003, 02:14 PM   #17
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The title of this thread should be changed to "need help with my old legacy" since you're getting rid of it. I'm curious to know with what you're replacing it. There really is too much information requested to be put into one thread. I decided to reply since a few issues stuck out at me... and I need more posts.

I believe that the level of modifications greatly depends on who is doing them. If most everything is going to be shop-installed and money is no object, why not go all out on everything. Why settle for Whiteline when DMS coilovers (Golds or 50s) can be installed instead. For most of the other suspension parts like strut bars, sways, links, and braces, go for Cusco, MRT, or some of the nice homegrown manufacturers like KartBoy.

Rolling stock should probably be a forged set of 17s or 18s from Prodrive or Volk who offer several styles in gun metal (aka british black). Since you're in Maine, you'll probably want premium rubber that can handle the wet, so Michelin Pilot A/S. I'm sure you can find a 6pot/4pot brake set. There are probably at least 20 vendors with threads selling them right now. I'm kinda partial to the iON Performance units from the little I've read.

Since the sky's the limit, the power should come from an engine swap. The transplant can be none other than the current darling of the community: USDM STi 2.5T complete with 6-speed. If an auto is required, a modified 2.5T with 4eAT out of the upcoming Forester XT should work wonders as well. If the power isn't coming until later, you might be able to wait for the 2.5T with Sportshift 5eAT. Don't forget to jam all the LSDs you can in there, be they OE units or aftermarket. Don't know too much more about LSDs other than they're a good thing. Nitrous, too?

The interior could be redone in a nice leather with Alcantara/Ecsaine inserts and accents. The seats could be reupholstered transplants from the 2004 WRX (favored over the STi for the heated seat elements, similar look and probably lower cost). If four passengers is the max, why not replace the rear bench with identical WRX buckets to provide cozy, ass-warming comfort and support for even the rear guests. Be sure to keep the trunk access since it's unique to the BD Legacy's ( to BEs and WRXs).

On the outside, pick a kit you like. Most of the ones I've seen on TakaKaira are very palatable if not a little overstated. Skip the aluminum wing unless it's going to be a track car. They just don't belong on Legacy's. I would recommend a retrofitted JDM, STi or Prodrive unit. Morettes would probably be the only option unless you're feeling adventurous enough to attempt the JDM projector units.

That's about all I have for now... time to go read more threads.

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Old 03-06-2003, 02:25 PM   #18
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great help, thank you very much. i'm am much appreciative.
i love the c-west kit that does not fit my car.
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