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Old 05-10-2011, 01:34 AM   #1
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Default Down and Dirty How To: Evo Brembos on a Subaru

So why Evo brembos?

1. Cheaper
2. Their the same thing as Subaru brembos.
3. I like red
4.


Couple notes:

Sti pads work with Evo brembos

Get the hardware kit from napa for the sti, Ill post the part number later. It was 25 shipped and everything fit fine except for the pins. More on that later.

It was fairly easy, took a few hours, could have been faster if I didn't have to run to the store.

Use Spec B rotors, should be about 12.5in. STI ones are a little to big.


Step 1:

Jack car up, jack stands, remove wheels, etc.. Use two jacks because your car is too low



Step 2:

Remove stock calipers, rotors, and unbolt brake line. If you need a refresher

http://www.northursalia.com/modifica...s/vbrakes.html

Step 3:


Grind down the flange of the caliper(angle grinder), just alittle bit, .1in, enough to make it flat.




Step 4:

???


Step 5:

Drill out the spindle. I used a big drill called the Hole Hawg, but any drill should work fine. The reasons for this is because the holes on the Evo brembos are further apart then Subaru ones.

Drill this one and the bottom one, just enough so you can slide the bolts in.





Step 6:

Grind down the spindle, .1-.2 of material, this allows the caliper to centered on the rotor. I took off to much so I had to use washers.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t101...ml#post1615534


Step 7:

Install the rotor and calipers, slide the pads in, push the pins in, put the Jesus clip in, and put the caliper on. Screw on the bolts, which should be a 19mm bolt. Reatch the brake line, which fits the caliper perfectly. Bleed brakes, and go break em in.

Pads difference:



Evo bolts are bigger then Subarus, here's the new size:




Napa brembo hardware number:




Yay!




I'll get some better pictures of them tomorrow, and I'll let you know how awesome they are.


CN's: Evo brembos fit on subarus with alittle bit of cutting and drilling. Brings in mad ladies.


Is this when I say haters gonna do stuff?
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:39 AM   #2
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I demand a full parts and prices list right meow! This is an awesome idea. Steve and I were toying with the idea of doing something like this with some remade brackets and some Z33 calipers, but I think this would work better.



P.S. How is "not Utah"? It's been a while since I've seen you, buddy.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:52 AM   #3
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Hey Kentrik! Not Utah sucks, I miss you ladies.


Evo Brembos shipped: $320, got them off evolutionm.com
Caliper Hardware $25, napa
Bolts: $10ish, home cheapo
Hawk Pads: $100, rallysportdirect
Centric Rotors: $120, off of wrxbrakes on here, aka kns brakes. Great guys.

So $575 for brembos, with good pads and rotors. Not bad.. If someone was to buy used rotors and pads you could save even more money.

Here's the original thread I was inspired by:
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t101...-yes-suby.html
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:56 AM   #4
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You should come back soon. Definitely check out the crazy stuff that Glenn has done to his OBS. It's seriously monster truck status now, and moreso all the time.


Yeah, I just found that thread after a quick search. You said the rotors were LGT Spec B rotors? I think if you could find some DBA 2-pieces for that, it would be a sweet setup. Do you know if the Evo rears are close as well, or are you just playing with the front for now?
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:12 AM   #6
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You should come back soon. Definitely check out the crazy stuff that Glenn has done to his OBS. It's seriously monster truck status now, and moreso all the time.


Yeah, I just found that thread after a quick search. You said the rotors were LGT Spec B rotors? I think if you could find some DBA 2-pieces for that, it would be a sweet setup. Do you know if the Evo rears are close as well, or are you just playing with the front for now?

Awe man, you're making me sad. Tell him to post some pics on slcsubaru.


Yup LGT Spec B, which I *believe* are the same as Legacy gt ones. I haven't decided what I want to do with the rears yet. I might just do WRX two pots, since to install brembos on the rear you need to change the hubs and bla bla bla. WRX two pots just need a special bracket Kartboy makes.


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wow just wow
Good wow, or bad wow? Oh and I have some Ralliart seats in my car :





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Mitsubishi stuff is just cheaper



Too bad it adds instant crank walk
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:24 AM   #7
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But WOULD you need to change the hubs up? I thought because of the differences with the STi and WRX rear rotors, that is why DBA made that rear rotor specifically FOR that swap.....the DBA 2657 rotors...
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:32 AM   #8
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Oh yes, I forgot about the special rotors. More here: http://www.fastwrx.com/rebradkit.html


Pricey
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Yeah......but if you can get a full set of the Evo Brembos for like $550 shipped (and you would need this for an STi ANYWAY), wouldn't it still technically be worth it?
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are the rear evo brembos different as well???? has anyone tried them?>??
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Nice install. Let me have your wagon!
If you can find it cheaper/same product/same quality, then it makes perfect sense.
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I was looking at my brothers Evo the other day wondering if this would work. All thats left to do now is figure out the best cost effective way to make the rears work.

Edit, does it matter what year of Evo the Brembos come off of?
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Good wow, or bad wow? Oh and I have some Ralliart seats in my car :




idk a little if both balls for doing it the way you did it and bad because its kinda ghetto lol
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:19 AM   #15
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Finally took some nice pictures, Brembos are great












I don't think the year of the Evo they come from matters, but I'm not 100% sure. I haven't heard anything about the rears, who wants to try it
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As long as you don't mind grinding down the hubs or calipers(instant weight savings ), then go for it! It takes patience and time, but I think it's worth it.
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Since your using the Legacy rotors, doe the brake pad over hang past a rotor a bit?
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Nope they fit fine.



Wow thread moved!
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Are the pistons oriented correctly? I know that someone else that did this swap had to put the calipers on backwards and thus was setting himself up for majorly uneven pad wear.

The smaller piston should be on the leading edge.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:46 AM   #22
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I believe so? The bleeder nipples on top, I know the guy in the rs25 thread had that problem. I guess I don't understand what your trying to say, the calipers are centered, so the wear should be even..
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The leading pistons are on the wrong side when swapping them to a Subaru which will cause the pads to wear unevenly. For street use they should be fine, but I wouldn't use them on track.

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Ive also have heard of this issue. Cant you just swap the calipers from left too right, then caliper bleader and hard line from top too bottom?

Edit: Id assume you "dont" need to swap from left too right. The small piston is leading regardless of the caliper mounted on front of back of the knuckle.

Put it behind the knucle like suabrus are mounted and now the small piston is on teh bottom, but still on the leading edge. So just swap teh bleaders and cross overs from top too bottom...

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Ive also have heard of this issue. Cant you just swap the calipers from left too right, then caliper bleader and hard line from top too bottom?

Ian,
I have heard people suggest this, though I'm not sure if anyone has done it (and posted pics on the forum). Doesn't look too hard since the Evo Brembos have external crossovers.

The Evo Brembo and STI Brembo use the same pad, though IIRC there's a 1mm difference in the rotors or some such (couldn't tell you which dimension either, it's been a while). I believe there was some discussion of the pads/rotors on RS25 highlighting the difference between the two. Or perhaps I read about the pad thickness on EvolutionM, can't remember.
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