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Old 05-12-2011, 02:09 PM   #26
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The leading pistons are on the wrong side when swapping them to a Subaru which will cause the pads to wear unevenly. For street use they should be fine, but I wouldn't use them on track.

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not true...rotate it around the wheel and flip nipple and plug sides on the caliper.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:17 PM   #27
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I have heard people suggest this, though I'm not sure if anyone has done it (and posted pics on the forum). Doesn't look too hard since the Evo Brembos have external crossovers.

The Evo Brembo and STI Brembo use the same pad, though IIRC there's a 1mm difference in the rotors or some such (couldn't tell you which dimension either, it's been a while). I believe there was some discussion of the pads/rotors on RS25 highlighting the difference between the two. Or perhaps I read about the pad thickness on EvolutionM, can't remember.
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not true...rotate it around the wheel and flip nipple and plug sides on the caliper.

Edit: Id assume you "dont" need to swap from left too right. The small piston is leading regardless of the caliper mounted on front of back of the knuckle.

Put it behind the knucle like suabrus are mounted and now the small piston is on teh bottom, but still on the leading edge. So just swap teh bleaders and cross overs from top too bottom...

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Old 05-16-2011, 12:20 AM   #28
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I am confused with the instruction. How did you make EVO bolt threads into the now enlarged holes?

Also I believe Legacy GT Spec B rotor is the same size as Legacy GT rotor.

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Old 05-16-2011, 12:40 AM   #29
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and the other real 'issue' with brembo's on the front is the increased front bias...which subarus do NOT need

the increased piston volume is also of some concern


but what do the 'its k000 so d000 it' boiz care if it makes braking distances LONGER and other bad things????


but its k000
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:13 AM   #30
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Just add in a brake bias proportioning valve. Presto.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:09 AM   #31
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Just add in a brake bias proportioning valve. Presto.



and have nothing but ****, weak brakes in back????

bad move


brembos on the front is kiddie f00-f00 fluff...ya gain NOTHING but poor braking and increased unsprung mass and pad knock back with bearings going sooner rather than later

profit???


and going through the hassle of using evo brembos on a subaru is just another layer of stupid
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:22 PM   #32
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For the record I decided not too do this upgrade.

Scotty, some of us have taken car of the crappy biased already. Thats why Im looking for fronts.

Nothing fancy, But the 2005+ LGT rears do quite well on my car considering what it cost me with some HP+ pads.

Sorry to get off topic.

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Old 05-16-2011, 10:48 PM   #33
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Did mine last year BremboŽ Mitsu parts are fractions compared to the suby BremboŽ parts (calipers i.e.)

I was able to use STi rotors with them...

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When enlarging the holes, isn't it necessary to use the helicoil or something to create threads? I am confused....
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:03 PM   #35
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When enlarging the holes, isn't it necessary to use the helicoil or something to create threads? I am confused....
No 'cause the calipers have the threads
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:04 PM   #36
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When enlarging the holes, isn't it necessary to use the helicoil or something to create threads? I am confused....
I believe the threads are on the caliper mounting 'ears' and not on the HUB/knuckle mounting 'ears'. So all you need to do would be to use a drill and enlarge the hole. No need to worry about threads. I could be wrong though but thats what I remember
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:47 AM   #37
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and have nothing but ****, weak brakes in back????

bad move


brembos on the front is kiddie f00-f00 fluff...ya gain NOTHING but poor braking and increased unsprung mass and pad knock back with bearings going sooner rather than later

profit???


and going through the hassle of using evo brembos on a subaru is just another layer of stupid
Don't worry, I didn't forget about the rears. I'll be going with either Brembo rears or 07 WRX rears. I'm waiting for a good deal to pop up. If stupidity = saving money, then I guess I'm the dumbest.

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I believe the threads are on the caliper mounting 'ears' and not on the HUB/knuckle mounting 'ears'. So all you need to do would be to use a drill and enlarge the hole. No need to worry about threads. I could be wrong though but thats what I remember
Correct. Leave the calipers holes alone.
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:14 PM   #38
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Don't worry, I didn't forget about the rears. I'll be going with either Brembo rears or 07 WRX rears. I'm waiting for a good deal to pop up. If stupidity = saving money, then I guess I'm the dumbest.
OH...so your building a race car, then....great


most just do this thinking it's k00 and end up with a car that is k00 but very poorly done, just like the kiddies like
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:02 AM   #39
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Any updates on this? I want to do this but enlarging the knuckle holes scares me. Would make the holes bigger create movement in the caliper since the hole on the caliper mounting ears is bigger than the one on the knuckle wont the caliper move up and down a tad bit and maybe make contact with the rotor?
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I also want to see an update.
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Old 07-30-2011, 01:48 PM   #41
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Old 08-17-2011, 06:48 AM   #42
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Would it work to add a 5mm (~.2 in) spacer behind the rotor rather than milling the caliper and hub? or would that be unsafe?
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:08 PM   #43
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Would it work to add a 5mm (~.2 in) spacer behind the rotor rather than milling the caliper and hub? or would that be unsafe?
That is what I was thinking too. You may need extended lug studs though and would still need to enlarge the mounting holes on the knuckle. Using a spacer behind the rotors would def make this much easier to do.
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If any of you guys are interested in doing this I have a set of front and rear Evo Brembo calipers. PM if you'd like to work something out.
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:01 PM   #45
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I highly recommend this conversion.

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I'll have my IX MR and my WRX whenever it gets here

Though I'll probably sell the Evo to my buddy...and you're right...why do all us Evo owners refer to our cars as "the Evo" rather than "the car"
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:19 PM   #46
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So why Evo brembos?

1. Cheaper
2. Their the same thing as Subaru brembos.
3. I like red
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Sti pads work with Evo brembos

Get the hardware kit from napa for the sti, Ill post the part number later. It was 25 shipped and everything fit fine except for the pins. More on that later.

It was fairly easy, took a few hours, could have been faster if I didn't have to run to the store.

Use Spec B rotors, should be about 12.5in. STI ones are a little to big.

Step 1:

Jack car up, jack stands, remove wheels, etc.. Use two jacks because your car is too low

Step 2:

Remove stock calipers, rotors, and unbolt brake line. If you need a refresher

http://www.northursalia.com/modifica...s/vbrakes.html

Step 3:

Grind down the flange of the caliper(angle grinder), just alittle bit, .1in, enough to make it flat.

Step 4:

???

Step 5:

Drill out the spindle. I used a big drill called the Hole Hawg, but any drill should work fine. The reasons for this is because the holes on the Evo brembos are further apart then Subaru ones.

Drill this one and the bottom one, just enough so you can slide the bolts in.

Step 6:

Grind down the spindle, .1-.2 of material, this allows the caliper to centered on the rotor. I took off to much so I had to use washers.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t101...ml#post1615534

Step 7:

Install the rotor and calipers, slide the pads in, push the pins in, put the Jesus clip in, and put the caliper on. Screw on the bolts, which should be a 19mm bolt. Reatch the brake line, which fits the caliper perfectly. Bleed brakes, and go break em in.

Pads difference:

Evo bolts are bigger then Subarus, here's the new size:

Napa brembo hardware number:

Yay!

I'll get some better pictures of them tomorrow, and I'll let you know how awesome they are.

CN's: Evo brembos fit on subarus with alittle bit of cutting and drilling. Brings in mad ladies.

Is this when I say haters gonna do stuff?
How is the braking quality compared to the subarus?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:53 AM   #47
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The pistons are in the opposite arrangement so I'd imagine really bad pad leading edge wear.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:18 AM   #48
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i know this is an old thread, but i don't see why i would have to grind the spindle down to center the rotor? cant you just take a little more off the caliper instead? i'd be more comfortable if i didn't have to mod the car.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:23 PM   #49
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what size rims are you running?
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Old 07-30-2014, 07:07 PM   #50
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What happens if I do this then convert to 5x114? Since LGT rotors are needed for this, I would have to redrill the rotors to 5x114?
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