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Old 07-21-2002, 06:29 AM   #1
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Import a B4 RSK.

What would be some realistic numbers one would look at spending for getting that car to the US? Just out of curiosity in the event I get a super-high paying job or win the lotto - Of course one would have to start playing!

/Mark

Note: All I care about is how much to buy a fully loaded RSK (in $'s), ship it, taxes and other things close to that nature. Dont care about insurance and gas.
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Old 07-21-2002, 11:29 AM   #2
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I would think $80-100k. I could be way off.
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Old 07-21-2002, 09:38 PM   #3
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Importing it is not the problem. Getting it street legal would be. Unless you import it strictly for track use, you'd basically have to spend a couple of grand castrating the car in order to make it street legal.
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Old 07-21-2002, 09:59 PM   #4
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This may not be correct, just posting what I "heard". You would have to import three RSK's. Two would be used for crash testing and the third would be your car which you would then have to make the correct modifications for. I honestly can't see you getting it done for less than $150-200K. Talk to Motorex if you want more info on the hassles of importing cars.
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Old 07-22-2002, 10:42 AM   #5
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You guys are killing me. Buy three to crash two of them I like the 'How about I just use it as a "track" car' approach. Of course my track would be to and from work
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Old 07-22-2002, 11:07 AM   #6
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Are you sure you would have to crash test it first? I think you could get away with just modification. It is not a totally new chassis for the U.S.. I read an atricle about a company that imports Skylines. They had to crash two, but it was a totally different chassis than anything Nissan has here. Of course I could just be talking from my ass.
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Old 07-22-2002, 12:03 PM   #7
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I'm not an expert, BUT. Since it's still a Legacy with a beefed up motor, couldn't you say it was a Legacy when importing it.

It would be along the same lines of A4 and S4. But then again the RS4 never made it to this country either.

Don't mind my babble. But I still think it could be done.
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Old 07-22-2002, 03:22 PM   #8
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You guys are killing me. Buy three to crash two of them I like the 'How about I just use it as a "track" car' approach. Of course my track would be to and from work
Err, funny how? If you have useful information, then share it. I was under the impression that these cars did not meet emission\safety certifications/standards to be street legal, in the US. However, it is quite legal to import vehicles like that for non-street use.
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Old 07-22-2002, 03:36 PM   #9
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Does this car share the chasis with any current or past US subaru? I think the easiest thing to do would be to buy one and import it, then find the "brother" here and transfer the parts. Or perhaps transfer the vin.....
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Old 07-22-2002, 10:12 PM   #10
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I've heard this story many, many times.

The easiest answer, and the cheapest, is to buy yourself a good, used BE Legacy in America. A 2.5-litre if you are going to use it's engine, a stripper cheapest AWD version if you are not.

Now, you've got the car - what to do to convert it? First off, you really don't want to convert it to RHD, a bit of a waste given the location... So now onto what will get you where you want to be.

Springs and struts. You can order the stock A through D revision B4 Bilsteins through your dealer, if you have the right numbers. However, since you are replacing both anyways, you might as well go for aftermarket coil-overs. Better and cheaper.

Lower front a-arm, aluminum. Can even use the ones from the WRX/STI, I believe.

Engine, exhaust:
If you use the 2.5-litre, which I actually do suggest, you have the option of making yourself a very, very sweet 2.5-litre single turbo that produces torque *everywhere*, and will be faster than a standard tt B4. It won't have the VOD either, and you don't have to run as high a boost to make a lot of power = don't have to use octane booster to keep your car running in the states. (yes, you'd need real good gasoline to run a stock B4 in the states). There is a few options from tuners for this - just hand over the car and a couple of credit cards...

If you transplant - buy a front clip from Japan, get *everything*, including the ECU. You'd get the lower part of the front suspension as a bonus, plus the springs/shocks for the front. Score! Transplant it all into your donor car, and make the modification to fit the second turbo as noted in the thread about the TT transplant.

Interior: Well, that's up to you. I'd go for recaro's, personally.

Front and Rear swaybars: aftermarket is better than the stock ones on the B4. We've all replace ours here in Japan, with Whiteline units.

Swaybar endlinks: we've replaced those to, the stock ones are POS on the A through C revisions.

Tires and Wheels: Hey, about 50-80% of B4 owners in Japan replace them with aftermarket anyways, you might as well do it to.

Now, this is the kicker - the American BE Legacy is *wider* than the Japanese BE Legacy B4 - wide enough that you lucky gits can put on wider rubber than we can in Japan. 225 series rubber rubs most of the time here, unless you get rather careful fitment. The Americans don't have the same problem - which makes the hardest part of your car to modify - the overall body - the most desireable part of owning an *american* version of the BE legacy. In Japan, we want that body! More Rubber!

Oh, brakes - hey, they are crap in stock form, on either side of the ocean. Go for WRX 4 pots in the front, asap. Mesh brake lines, good rotors, good brake fluid = better brakes at the track than a Ferrari Modena (yes, this has been verified by yr hmble reporter as he lapped said Modena).

Body panels - you need the hood, grill, front bumper. Ship 'em.

After you've done all this, you've got a street-legal (depending on your location) B4 from hell, and it won't cost you an arm and a leg. Plus it will be LHD, which is useful for passing - which you will do a lot with this car...

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Old 07-22-2002, 10:29 PM   #11
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What about if you just say "it's a postal car". Those are RHD, I think all you would have to do is make it emissions legal.
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Old 07-23-2002, 01:38 AM   #12
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Paul Hansen - I know there is that end of building one yourself, but I was just kicking the idea of if I had no worries about $$, really wanted a B4, and wanted to know how much to get the Car over to the US.
(Not that I would really care about the costs if I had all that $$, I just want to know for my poor self right now)

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Old 07-23-2002, 03:28 AM   #13
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Hey Paul, I'll gladly trade cars with you

As for the price to import the B4, it would probably vary depending on who you use as the importer. I did a quick check on it after monovich and others teased us with GT-b's going for like $8k. I even went and emailed Motorex about the possibility of them importing cars other than the Skyline, they responded with "Whats a B4?" I have the email they sent me at work, I'll try and find it and post it if you want. But according to what I found out in the 2 hours I searched, the importation cost is mainly just making it US legal, and the required "updates" *could* vary from importer to importer (the company in NY may be more strict then the guy in the heart of TN kinda thing). One of the licensed importers I called even had a personal (home) sounding answering machine???

So, probablymy guess woul dbe anywhere between $50-120, depending on age, importer used, required change over, etc... Of course, what do I know.

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Old 07-23-2002, 05:16 AM   #14
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I'm stationed in Japan right now, and this question has come up a lot when it comes time for military personnel to move back to the US and they wanna keep the WRX/Skyline/Lancer that they dumped so much money into throughout their tour here. From what I understand, it would cost around 5-6k in upgrades/modifications to the car in order to make it street legal/importable to the US. These include emissions modifications to the engine, glass replacement on the windows (japanese cars do not have shatter proof-glass), headlights (in some cases), and structural improvements (cross beams on the doors etc.). Crash tests have already been done, and a few tuners/garages over here know what needs to be done to make it legal in the states. Trust me, the thought has crossed my mind on more than one occasion, especially sine I see them ona daily basis. The other day I came across a Lancer Evo 7 for 17k, this included upgraded ECU, exhaust, gauges, and transmission. Not bad huh? The problem come with importing it....


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Old 07-23-2002, 10:22 AM   #15
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SSLegacyGT - Thanks for the info
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