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Old 05-14-2011, 07:27 PM   #1
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Default So... anyone else mount hellas behind their grille?

No, not the supertones



I've always loved the look of aux lighting on our cars, but unless its the winter time a light bar just wouldn't fit my typical equip. I figured there was still some hope to making something work, however. So following some old school Mustang styling queues I'm fond of, I tried something out this weekend with a set of Black Magic 500 Hella lamps. I photoshoped this a few times until I liked what I was seeing, then set out to make it a reality.

The biggest problem with this kind of install is that there isn't a place to mount lights here. Zero, zip, nada, none. I must have stared into the front of my engine bay for at least an hour before I came up with this ghetto superstar solution.




The first thing I needed was something sturdy and rigid to mount the lamps to, and thus I chose to use a box aluminum bar. Finding a place to hang/mount it to was difficult, though. I ended up cutting apart a piece of U shaped aluminum I was planning to use to reinforce the back of my splitter, pop riveted the whole thing together, and mounted it up to the top radiator bolts. It turns out to be quite a rigid setup. This was a convenient design as its very low profile behind the grille as well. (Yes, my engine bay is incredibly dirty. Sure ain't a show car!) Note also the mounts look a little tilted/skewed in respect to each other, but this is to clear the headlights (asymmetrical)





I used some un-peeled weather stripping tape to protect the leads from grinding against the radiator over bumps, as well as protect the lamp backing. All things considered though, it takes a lot of force to move this thing.



I know some other folks have done this before, but not that I've seen on a bug or in this way. And thus another aux lighting solution is born! Now I'm on the fence about cutting the grille and adding some ABS rings (partial rings) around the circumference of the lights. Of course, it must be photoshop approved first

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Old 05-14-2011, 07:31 PM   #2
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I like ths a lot! I've been a huge fan of lightbars, but they break up otherwise clean lines. How's the output?
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:33 PM   #3
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Here's a couple lighting pictures as well (snapped them on auto, hence the dark pics)


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Old 05-14-2011, 07:35 PM   #4
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I like ths a lot! I've been a huge fan of lightbars, but they break up otherwise clean lines. How's the output?
Thanks! I haven't been able to drive them in the dark yet, but I'll definitely report back and with pics. This is a another reason I'm thinking of cutting the grill up and adding some 'rings' around the lights, but I also don't want to ruin the subtlety
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:40 PM   #5
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That looks like a BAMF
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:47 PM   #6
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when i saw the thread title i was all like

then i saw the write up and then i was like

And seeing the pics.... my opinion....

that looks ****ing sick
Clean and nice install job

oh and thanks for not putting in HID bulbs dood
lol
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:49 PM   #7
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I really like it, my only concern would be blocking cooling flow to the rad, etc...
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:53 PM   #8
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I really like it, my only concern would be blocking cooling flow to the rad, etc...
+1, but it does look really really cool.
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:59 PM   #9
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I really like it, my only concern would be blocking cooling flow to the rad, etc...
Thanks for the comments guys!

I've considered the cooling aspect and definitely plan to monitor heat for a while, especially getting into the summer. Frankly, I can't imagine it being any worse if as bad as putting an FMIC over the hole bottom section, which reduces flow to a more substantial portion of the radiator. Additionally, I believe this is less likely to inhibit cooling than putting fog lights just outside of the grille would, as this diverts air entering the grille around the lights and doesn't spoil air around the grille and hood (all super dooper hypothetical of course).

Also, night shots incoming
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:15 PM   #10
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when i saw the thread title i was all like

then i saw the write up and then i was like

And seeing the pics.... my opinion....

that looks ****ing sick
Clean and nice install job

oh and thanks for not putting in HID bulbs dood
lol

I also clicked this thread to see the OP flamed... but had same reaction
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:18 PM   #11
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Here are a few samples of the output. It also looks like I've got to lower my drivers side headlight a click or two, I must have knocked the bulb up at some point removing them.

Regular lights



Regular + lower fogs (PIAA bulbs)



Everything on

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Old 05-14-2011, 08:20 PM   #12
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turn lights on for 10 minutes. Place hand near lamp.

Hott


Ouch.

That hot air is going directly around the lights into your radiator.

cooling will be not efficient anymore.

if it melts your grille some, you will also see how hot they get.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:27 PM   #13
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if it melts your grille some, you will also see how hot they get.
I hate to have to point this out, but if the lights would melt the grille, they would also melt the lamp case which is made of the same material

Again, temp readings will determine everything, not hypothesis. AFAIC, lights off during day, on at night --> high air temp during day = low air temp at night + increase in air temp due to lights. This is all more than likely negligible anyway.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:41 PM   #14
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I like it. You also could have saved a few bucks and used a piece of angle aluminum instead of square tubing, and you wouldn't have had to cut the holes to tighten the nuts =]

Did you wire them to their own switches, or do they come on with the fogs?

I have a box full of Bosch relays I've been dying to use.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:13 PM   #15
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sick. creative, clean, different, love it.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:01 AM   #16
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Looks good. I can't imagine that the lights would block much more airflow than a pair of super tones. Besides the aforementioned heated air from the lamps.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:03 AM   #17
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I like it!
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:59 AM   #18
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looks really mean

edit-could i also get a rear shot of your car? i was looking at doing a wrx with with roof vane.

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Old 05-15-2011, 02:03 AM   #19
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A night shot pls.
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Very cool idea, might have to replace my supertones with a set of driving lights! lol I know off topic, but what hood scoop are you running?
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:53 PM   #21
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Looks sick. and besides the lights, nice bigeye!

My first thought was that they might hurt airflow into the radiators or melt something. They'd probably be fine with cooler temps/ winter..but I would be worried to rock them on a 90 degree day (though why would you)
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Holy rusted bolts, Batman!! lol

That looks awesome, though. I'm a 'Stang fan as well so I can appreciate where you're coming from!
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Looks great! I love it.
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:41 PM   #25
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Thanks for the feedback all!

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looks really mean

edit-could i also get a rear shot of your car? i was looking at doing a wrx with with roof vane.
Here's a shot of the rear for the roof vane, and of what this car is normally doing without all the summer aero parts. Can't wait to really make use of these lamps next winter!



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I like it. You also could have saved a few bucks and used a piece of angle aluminum instead of square tubing, and you wouldn't have had to cut the holes to tighten the nuts =]

Did you wire them to their own switches, or do they come on with the fogs?

I have a box full of Bosch relays I've been dying to use.
I thought about using an angled piece but I was worried it would flex due to the cut I had to make in the center. The box was about 5 bucks more, just more annoying to get things mounted up right.

Also, all the lights are now independent so as long as at least parking lights are on, everything can come on separately. And use those relays!!

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Very cool idea, might have to replace my supertones with a set of driving lights! lol I know off topic, but what hood scoop are you running?
The scoop was actually made out of a WRX stock scoop by one of the NESIC members. Its a super clean job!
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