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Old 07-09-2011, 03:02 AM   #26
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:37 PM   #27
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I don't see how removing the air pump and installing the block off plates will affect idling. I would have thought all you need to do is to disable the CEL? At least that is what I have done.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:33 AM   #28
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I don't see how removing the air pump and installing the block off plates will affect idling. I would have thought all you need to do is to disable the CEL? At least that is what I have done.
I'll have to speak with Pat about this. This is what Onur has told me. From what I read the air pump is only activated during cold starts for about 20 secs. So if it's the case I don't see why it would need a 2hr retune either. But I'm no expert.

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Old 07-15-2011, 09:18 PM   #29
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Cleared the 2441 now 2440 popped up. The airpump has got to go.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:54 PM   #30
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Same thing happened with mine. I have deleted all the codes in my Cobb map for the time being and my car is running great.(Except for it being on a Cobb map). Maybe RR will cut us a break on a Group Pump Delete Tune session?
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:22 PM   #31
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Was talking to alcoolaid last night at the meet about this and he found this for us. Doesn't look too bad.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/how-inst...p-removal.html

This is for a 07 STI, apparently the 08 STI only has one valve so it's even easier. We took a look under the hood and everything is seem more accessible on the GR.

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Old 07-16-2011, 07:42 PM   #32
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Actually the 08 sti does have 2 valves
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:36 PM   #33
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do 2004 + 2005 sti's have this air pump???
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:21 AM   #34
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Nope.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:43 PM   #35
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I replaced my RH valve. The seal inside on the poppet valve was pretty destroyed - makes sense it was sticking. Opened up the other valve and it looked mint.
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:55 PM   #36
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I replaced my RH valve. The seal inside on the poppet valve was pretty destroyed - makes sense it was sticking. Opened up the other valve and it looked mint.
How much was the valve?
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:03 PM   #37
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dyno tuning isn't required with the removal of the pump. just "tuning" time, including couple of tweaks and deleting of the codes from the ECU.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:05 PM   #38
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RH Valve: 14864AA030
LH Valve: 14864AA020


VALVE AIR SUCTION
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:22 AM   #39
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I have an 09 STI that just had this code come up. I was told 900 for labor and 600 for parts. Im out of warranty but calling SOA but is there a bypass for the 09?
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:04 AM   #40
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Just remove it end of story! Seriously funny how these air pumps fail just after warranty have expired. They serve no purpose at all except for dealers charging ridiculous amount of money for a useless part.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:48 AM   #41
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It came up for me on my stock 07 Forester XT. LOL. stupid POS 2441 code!
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:50 AM   #42
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Remove and delete code. Replacement will eventually fail too until Subaru designs new replacement
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:50 PM   #43
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I can reset ECU, but that's about it. AFAIK, only open source maps and certain Cobb race/tuning maps(?) will let me delete the code. Otherwise, I'm stuck with it..

but someone please prove me wrong!
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:41 PM   #44
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All I know is I paid rocket 2hrs to install block off the plates and another hr for the map tuning.

Hell of a lot cheaper then fixing a reoccurring problem.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:00 PM   #45
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You can disable it on the stock map too
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:26 PM   #46
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DETAILS MANG

Pls and thanks

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Old 04-02-2012, 09:34 PM   #47
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DETAILS MANG

Pls and thanks

Download your stock map, open it in RomRaider, check disable P2441 and flash back to your ECU.

But if the valve(s) is stuck open you will need to either replace it or install block off plates.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:21 PM   #48
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How I love the slightly more low tech 04s :P
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:32 AM   #49
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Where can i get this block off? And is there a how to?
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http://www.kstech.biz/servlet/the-10...e-block/Detail

and yesh, I am jealous of all non airpump subbies
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