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Old 04-30-2013, 12:30 PM   #101
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There have been cases were even a stock clutch has done this. Plus if you knew material science, then you might be able to talk. Since you very obviously don't know what you're talking about, much less couldn't take the time to read the entire thread, please don't add to this thread. It's not constructive or needed.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:56 PM   #102
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^^^ Still rockin the stock clutch here.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:20 PM   #103
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If anyone has had this problem using a stock clutch, please contact Greg Coleman at 865-247-0080 or 800-487-8669. He is the lawyer that we are using for the class action suit. He needs to hear from all of us. It only takes a couple of minutes, and you could possibly get reimbursed from Subaru for the expenses you incurred fixing your car. It will be much appreciated.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:38 PM   #104
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There have been cases were even a stock clutch has done this. Plus if you knew material science, then you might be able to talk. Since you very obviously don't know what you're talking about, much less couldn't take the time to read the entire thread, please don't add to this thread. It's not constructive or needed.

Wow. Quick to the insults. I was stating what I read and showed an interest to the outcome. And it's always fun for someone to assume what I know and don't know without asking.

Now. I can understand that someone who had this happen on a stock clutch and can prove it would have a case(that is if it can be proven to not be abuse); but don't see how someone who modified their car could be included. Again. Interested to see the outcome. Calm down.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:55 PM   #105
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So you are saying that you trying to be a smart ass wasn't insulting? I took it as an insult. You don't know the facts. You stated you didn't even read the entire thread, so that shows you have no real interest in honestly knowing the outcome. It was very apparent you just commented to try and be a jerk. If you want to actually know the outcome, just follow the thread, and don't comment unless you have something to constructively add. Thank you
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:38 PM   #106
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Take a look and see how many people have made complaints to NHTSA. We to get this higher before the government will acutally do anything about it. I just filed my complaint, and I strongly hope everyone who has had this problem will too.

http://www.arfc.org/complaints/2009/...eza/?q=&page=1
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:41 PM   #107
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So you are saying that you trying to be a smart ass wasn't insulting? I took it as an insult. You don't know the facts. You stated you didn't even read the entire thread, so that shows you have no real interest in honestly knowing the outcome. It was very apparent you just commented to try and be a jerk. If you want to actually know the outcome, just follow the thread, and don't comment unless you have something to constructively add. Thank you

No. I read several posts and they were looking alike, so I decided not to read 3 more pages of the same thing. I do honestly want to know the outcome of this because I don't think there is a case. That would open up other things "mods" or "abuse" affect. Hope I'm wrong for the sake of every one involved. I would hate to have a car that broke and cost a lot to fix. Stop reading too far into things. You apparently are easily angered.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:54 PM   #108
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:59 PM   #109
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Have you had this problem? I ask because I have the same car as you and have not.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:17 AM   #110
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Have An 2005 Sti, Clutch Has Been Squeaking For Years, Cant Find A Solution But To Go Faster.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:29 PM   #111
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So I had Subaru look at mine, they said it had one weld break. So they sent it to a body shop to fix it.

So should I put a Grimmspeed on it after it is fixed?
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:40 PM   #112
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Cant hurt but has not stopped others from stopping the problem. If you plan on keeping the car for awhile, you should take out the dash and reinforce the firewall eventually. Think that is the only actual fix
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:47 PM   #113
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So I had Subaru look at mine, they said it had one weld break. So they sent it to a body shop to fix it.

So should I put a Grimmspeed on it after it is fixed?
Did Subaru make you pay to pull the dash apart to confirm of any breaks?
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:47 PM   #114
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You should make Subaru fix the firewall flex as well. That's a big concern as well. A brake master cylinder brace doesn't really affect the clutch master cylinder very much. Most people use it as a temporary solution till Subaru gets off their ass and does a recall. You should add your name to the class action suit just to show you're another person that's had this problem. Did you have a stock or aftermarket clutch on your car?
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:33 PM   #115
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Did Subaru make you pay to pull the dash apart to confirm of any breaks?
I also would like to know if they made u pay
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:19 AM   #116
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So, no easy way to tell if its broken without taking out the dash?
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:40 AM   #117
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So, no easy way to tell if its broken without taking out the dash?
No, you can see if two of the spot welds are gone by pulling the cowl but the third one (the one that went on me) the only way to see it is pulling the dash
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:49 AM   #118
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So, no easy way to tell if its broken without taking out the dash?
Well you can pull out the wiper blade cowl and look under the wiper blade motor, but that only reveals 3 or 4 of the possible broken welds, there are others not visible without pulling out the dash.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #119
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There are actually 6 spot welds under the wiper cowl. I know, because I have all 6 broken. You can also get down and push the clutch in by hand, and if the brake pedal is shifting at all when you push in the clutch, then your are getting movement in the bracket. The movement is not supposed to be there. You more than likely have a break somewhere. You can also remove the knee panel from the dash, and while pushing in the clutch, you will notice the bracket the pedal is connected to will shift if broken.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:25 PM   #120
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I am part if the class action lawsuit, and Tuesday, the lawyer had a technical specialist come look at it. He agreed with me the bulkhead, also called the firewall, is too thin. This is what has more than likely led to the problems we are dealing with. I thought originally it might be a manufacturing problem, but now with the technical specialist, we have determined it to be a design flaw. That thin of metal in that area should not have happened. 0.29 is thin in any car (this was taken after measuring the thickness of the paint top and bottom). Subaru is probably going to fight tooth and nail to not recall it, mainly because of how much it will cost them to fix the problem per car.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:27 PM   #121
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The real give away will be if they increased the thickness of the firewall with later model years of this body style.
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They tried to get me to pay for the inspection initially (1100), but I told them no and I did not have to pay. I am also out of warranty. Paid 280 for them to fix the welds and they did reinforce it a bit.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:55 PM   #123
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They are definitely going to have to do something about the firewall. While talking to the technical specialist, we discussed possible solutions to this, but all came back to the thought of pulling the engine and adding bracing. If a dealer was to do a proper fix of the problem, I could estimate it might cost $4000-5000. That's if they pulled the engine, dash, braced the firewall on both sides, braced the pedal assembly in some way, new bracket for the pedal assembly, and possibly a new stock clutch. Subaru will more than likely fight to the bitter end not to have to do a recall. It would cost them tens of millions of dollars to fix everyone's vehicles. I know it will be a very long battle in court, but I think forcing Subaru to own up to the design flaw will be worth it.
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:11 PM   #124
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You are correct. Having suspension and wheels has nothing to do with the firewall. But most dealerships will find any reason not to warranty and issue. This is completely stupid because the dealership will get paid the same from SOA for a warranty repair as if the customer was paying for it. Here's the crappy part is a lot of dealerships in CA charge the customer more on labor than they do the manufacturer. This is a big reason why the dealership tries to find reasons not to warranty something. ON all actuality the dealership should not be charging the customer more than what they charge the manufacturer.

Good luck on your situation. I really hope its not a crack on the firewall.

As for not getting help from SOA... has these people with issues called them personally. Never take the dealerships word.
Your facts are completely wrong. SOA is notorious for paying VERY little for warranty repairs. It is not true at all that SOA will pay anywhere near what Customer Pay would be for this repair. That is the reason why they want to deny Warranty repairs. SOA sets the warranty time for a repair AND the labor rate, NOT the dealership. Just a for instance, Labor Time according to Alldata for a Wheel Bearing on a 2008 Subaru WRX is 1.6 hours plus diagnosis time. SOA Warranty repair time only pays .8 in labor...and at a much reduced labor rate to boot. I'm not defending the dealership, but SOA bears some responsibility in why dealerships try so hard to deny warranty repairs. Dealerships couldn't possibly stay in business just doing warranty repairs. I'm sure you expect to be paid for the time you put in at work, but Subaru Technicians (along with Toyota, Honda, Nissan) are putting time into doing work they are simply not getting paid for during warranty repairs. While the Japanese automakers are often the worst about this, U.S. manufacturers aren't much better.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:57 PM   #125
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I posted earlier in this thread anf have now been about 2 months without my rex unfortunately. Got quite the run around with a few shops, but its about to get welded tomorrow thank God.

Anyways, took a few pictures and some video clips and put them together.

I should have some more pictures with the dash removed in a day or so. I'll post them when I can. Hope this helps somebody.
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