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Old 01-08-2013, 12:08 PM   #2651
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I think newer wrx gears are already about the same as legacy gears
Yes and no. Obviously if you have 6 there will be some differences;however, I believe that it shares a few gears with the wrx. I would have to check cars101.com to see. Also note that I am talking about the spec b and not the BM platform, which shares again some gears but I don't think is pnp with gr imprezas.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:31 PM   #2652
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Anyone else feel like the gear ratio for 4th and 5th gear in the 2011 WRX is odd? I feel like the 4th gear pulls much harder and longer than 5th? I feel like a fool for asking this and don't know if I'm describing it correctly but maybe someone will understand what I'm talking about.
Kinda depends on your setup as well. On a typical stage 2 setup, you'll see a significant difference in 4/5 gear pulls. I'll usually just ride my 4th pull until about 6k, then shift into 5th to get a decent pull there for a bit. But as stated before, your 5th pull will be pretty drawn out after about 120mph since its your last gear. It doesn't seem odd to me at all, but maybe that's just my personal opinion.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:47 PM   #2653
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I believe there are tons of treads about how air-starved our cars are at high rpms.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:37 PM   #2654
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I never received one either. What exactly was recalled or was it tsb? The only recall I've heard of from subaru is the one that they just announced about the puddle lights on the foresters and legacy's.



it's so that when your coolant gets too hot it sets of the CEL. I think that is it from what I've read. Their are some threads that have photo copies of the letter, it's only issued to certain states.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:13 PM   #2655
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Kinda depends on your setup as well. On a typical stage 2 setup, you'll see a significant difference in 4/5 gear pulls. I'll usually just ride my 4th pull until about 6k, then shift into 5th to get a decent pull there for a bit. But as stated before, your 5th pull will be pretty drawn out after about 120mph since its your last gear. It doesn't seem odd to me at all, but maybe that's just my personal opinion.
Ok on second though, what I was referring to initially wasn't really how hard the car pulled in 4th/5th gear. I think I meant that the ratio of vehicle speed vs engine RPMs is higher in 4th than it is in 5th, which seems to go against the idea of lower gears being shorter and higher gears being longer.

On a side note, how fast have people got their Subies to go top speed wise? I know they aren't designed for high speed but I'm just curious.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:22 PM   #2656
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if you are stage 1 or 2 you really shouldn't be going wot at low rpms in 4th and 5th...bad for business...

also they can probably go like 150 something...im not gonna check

08 can do at least 150...looks like you will run out of gearing somewhere in the 160s

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Old 01-10-2013, 01:45 PM   #2657
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So I went and got the coolant ECU recall done and gave COBB the rom here: https://forums.cobbtuning.com/forums...Program-WQC-39. A '12 STI owner posted a stock rom with the recall update there too. Hopefully they can use the data to update their maps.

Sidenote, since this issue only affects 2011+ cars, I'm really glad we have a 2011+ discussion thread.
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I appreciate you guys taking the time to do that, considering you didn't have to seeing how you received the update. I haven't seen the letter from Subaru but I might have just overlooked it. Hope Cobb can do something with that info. Thanks again
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No problem man, it's all about helping the community! I figured it was safer for me to collect the update for COBB since my car is otherwise stock rather than having a Stage 2 risk it.

Lost track of the thread for a little bit but I came back to read these posts. Thanks nightdown fox and PearlRex11, and anyone else that helped with figuring out this ECU situation. I have been quite lazy and I haven't received the update yet, but I will get it done one of these days. Hopefully when I go stage2 this won't even be an issue anymore.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:11 PM   #2658
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Has anyone used the Cobb sport springs?
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:37 AM   #2659
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Has anyone used the Cobb sport springs?
On the gd's, they were too low for standard struts. I never thought the ride was poor until I rode on better set-ups...then I realized it wasn't much good for anything but pictures. It looks great, doesn't ride well though.

Dollar for dollar the entry level coil overs are better and a little cheaper when you are looking at sprigs/camber plates/struts.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:44 PM   #2660
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I had fortune auto coilovers on my car for about 2 weeks, I took them off and sold them. I now have Swifts and stock struts, would prefer to add koni inserts as well but not yet. I'm much happier with just springs for now. If you go with coilovers I would suggest nothing lower than 7k front 8K rear. My 7k f 6k r was too soft and bouncy.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:11 PM   #2661
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coilovers are a worse choice for a DD that is going to rack up lots of miles. they need to be rebuilt more often than people think.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:28 PM   #2662
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coilovers are a worse choice for a DD that is going to rack up lots of miles. they need to be rebuilt more often than people think.
What's a lot if miles?
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:33 PM   #2663
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idk if you drive 20k a year you could be looking at a rebuild in 3 years or so.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:42 PM   #2664
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idk if you drive 20k a year you could be looking at a rebuild in 3 years or so.
60 k miles on aftermarket springs probably would be just as bad to struts. Sounds like it might depend on the driver/driving style/road types.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:46 PM   #2665
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yeah but its a hassle to rebuild coils. you have to send them out and wait...its probably just as expensive as replacing konis. I'm not suggesting sticking with oem struts, but I think konis and drop springs are better and cheaper to replace when they blow or wear out. It also depends on the company.

I know one time I bought my friend's tein ss-p's for around $400 thinking I could just get them rebuilt if there was an issue. It ended up costing almost $800 and I believe when all was said and done the price ended up maybe $50 shy of brand new coils. You also need suspension to drive on while you are waiting or another car. For a person who pays to have mods installed(lol) the cost labor would be insane. On the other hand most people around here with coils probably don't even keep their car long enough to blow them or they will just drive on blown coils like my stupid friend and not notice..lol. It also depends what brand of coilovers they are... The other issue with coils is they don't really handle winter weather as well as normal shocks..although I guess you can cover them with those bag things.

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Old 01-11-2013, 04:56 PM   #2666
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yeah but its a hassle to rebuild coils. you have to send them out and wait...its probably just as expensive as replacing konis. I'm not suggesting sticking with oem struts, but I think konis and drop springs are better and cheaper to replace when they blow or wear out.
I only know about bc coil overs. Less than 100 for a new shock tube. Two hours in my garage and maybe 3 beers.... I don't know how much koni's cost...but $100 is pretty cheap and beer is included.
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yeah I guess that's not bad. idk that guy with a stick up his ass dumped his BC's for koni's though..makes me wonder..
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:30 PM   #2668
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On the gd's, they were too low for standard struts. I never thought the ride was poor until I rode on better set-ups...then I realized it wasn't much good for anything but pictures. It looks great, doesn't ride well though.

Dollar for dollar the entry level coil overs are better and a little cheaper when you are looking at sprigs/camber plates/struts.
I had BCs last summer, they were too harsh on the stiffer settings and I was paranoid about the noise they made when softer. I put my stock suspension back on in the fall and sold them. I'm going to be autocrossing as much as I can this summer. Cobb says they work with the stock struts apart from '08 and a local guy is selling them for a good deal. My other option is STi springs.

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Old 01-11-2013, 06:06 PM   #2669
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I had BCs last summer, they were too harsh on the stiffer settings and I was paranoid about the noise they made when softer. I put my stock suspension back on in the fall and sold them. I'm going to be autocrossing as much as I can this summer. Cobb says they work the stock struts apart from '08 and a local guy is selling them for a good deal. My other option is STi springs.
As I recall Cobb didn't do anything different other than compliant springs for gr struts. There are plenty of treads about how poorly the Cobb springs handle... The problem is that they ride too low and the car nearly sits on the bump stops. Do your research.
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I think Cobb springs are just name brand and overall junk. I had a set on some STI springs that I carried up from the Lower 48 when I bought my Forester. They were all rusted and stuff. I sold them to a local guy that I only saw like once around town. Anyways, my research showed me that overall they're only worth it if you can get them super cheap and have money to burn.
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:19 PM   #2671
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Our cars are designed to practically ride on the bump stops. The Cobb springs are "probably" manufactured by an outside company like the RCE springs are.
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my epic springs aren't too bad, just have to avoid large bumps
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my driving isn't too bad, just have to avoid bumps
True. True.
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I couldn't be happier with the swift sport springs on mine. Firmed it up just a bit and 3/4" drop, exactly what I wanted. Second choice would have been rce black, after looking into them I felt the Swifts were higher quality. Just my opinion.
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