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Old 09-04-2012, 03:22 AM   #2376
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no i mean gtis are solid
I would rather have some rattles than a car that needs repairs and has actual problems consistently and across the brand. Just sayin.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:28 AM   #2377
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also, on a side note, how are the BRZ clutches? I think I am getting knee issues from the constant use of my knees with shifting and lifting. I might have to move to an automatic tranny.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:22 AM   #2378
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Hey when you did the catless. What kind of catback did you pair it with and did you use the Cobb ots map? If so. Any issues with boost creep?
I kept it with the stock catback and the Cobb ots tune at first, It got up to 20 psi once or twice (no biggie) then i got tuned by STi Mikey and he cleared it. Since then I put the agency power cat back and there was no fitment issues with the dp.

To celery- I've driven a friends gti stock and stage 2. They are fun little cars no doubt. Although they're not as quick as ours, you feel the same amount of adrenaline when boost kicks in. And city driving is way more fun at low speed with its quick and wicked steering feel/handling. If I wasn't such a subie fan and had test driven the gti first I might be on vwvortex rather than nasioc.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:37 AM   #2379
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I would rather have some rattles than a car that needs repairs and has actual problems consistently and across the brand. Just sayin.
you mean like ringlands and question mark trannies, that subaru will void the your warranty over due to some bolt ons? I probably wouldn't try to keep it past the powertrain warranty anyways.

Its interesting how you go from one forum to the next and each forum is so sure that their car is the better one. GTI owners are very down on WRX's apparently. Its almost like religious fanatics the way everyone is so sure of themselves..lol

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also, on a side note, how are the BRZ clutches? I think I am getting knee issues from the constant use of my knees with shifting and lifting. I might have to move to an automatic tranny.
they are fairly firm..maybe you should get something with a DSG..wonder where you might be able to find a company that offers those..lol
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:37 AM   #2380
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What are you talking about, Cel? The BRZ clutch is light. It felt almost exactly like my 2005 STI clutch. They purposely made the clutch light in the BRZ because they expected constant use for racing and such. Purpose-built. They didn't want people getting worn out. If the BRZ clutch was like the WRX clutch it wouldn't see nearly as many accolades.

I almost thought the clutch was too light when I drove one, but in retrospect it was fine.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:40 AM   #2381
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I think my WRX clutch is way too soft. I've driven my friends 06 sti a couple times and I'm wicked jelly of how firm his steering and clutch are. Makes mine feel like a cushy family car
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:06 PM   #2382
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Maybe I'm confused. Are we talking about how springy the clutch is or isn't?
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:19 PM   #2383
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Mine isnt, it just feels really soft and doesn't push back very hard
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:36 PM   #2384
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The clutch pedal feel should stiffen over time. I'm told the heat on the springs for the pressure plate causes them to stiffen up. My clutch felt very soft when it was new, I've been driving stick for about 10 years and it was honestly kinda hard for me to drive smoothly. It feels way better now probably slightly due to me adjusting, but I do feel it has firmed up as well. 16k currently on mine.
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:40 PM   #2385
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Yeah it has firmed up a little, but still really deep and squishy >.>

Hopefully it just needs more than 15k to really break in I guess?
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:18 PM   #2386
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WRX and BRZ clutches are firm compared to a run of the mill clutch like for example my civic. Remember we are talking about corvid's knee issues not omgz becuz race car 3 puck stage 7 clutches feel ok to daily drive on teh internetz. To a guy with knee issues BRZ and WRX clutches are going to feel a bit stiff. Personally I think the WRX and BRZ have perfect DD clutch feel but I wouldn't if I had bad knees.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:51 PM   #2387
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I know we're talking about corvid's knees. I'm just stating that I noticed my WRX clutch has always been a whole lot stiffer compared to my STI or even Forester XT. The BRZ was very light and didn't require nearly as much leg work compared to the WRX.

Sometimes when my clutch leg would start to bug me I would change up my shifting technique to compensate. I like to downshift to slow down more than using the brakes, but if my leg bothered me from all the shifting then I would choose to put the car in neutral and just use the brakes to slow down. It hasn't happened THAT often. I think only on certain days when I've worked my legs hard already.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:05 PM   #2388
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idk maybe I need to drive another BRZ
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:34 PM   #2389
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the one i drove the clutch was very very similar to my WRX, not very firm or soft just kinda perfectly in the middle for a DD
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:36 PM   #2390
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pretty much...the steering and shifter felt great too, hopefully the next WRX/STI feels the same
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:11 PM   #2391
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I know we're talking about corvid's knees. I'm just stating that I noticed my WRX clutch has always been a whole lot stiffer compared to my STI or even Forester XT. The BRZ was very light and didn't require nearly as much leg work compared to the WRX.

Sometimes when my clutch leg would start to bug me I would change up my shifting technique to compensate. I like to downshift to slow down more than using the brakes, but if my leg bothered me from all the shifting then I would choose to put the car in neutral and just use the brakes to slow down. It hasn't happened THAT often. I think only on certain days when I've worked my legs hard already.
I was taught to simply shift to neutral and use the brakes to slow down rather than downshift through each gear. I was told downshifting to slow down places unnecessary wear on the transmission and clutch. Which way is right?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:17 PM   #2392
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I was taught to simply shift to neutral and use the brakes to slow down rather than downshift through each gear. I was told downshifting to slow down places unnecessary wear on the transmission and clutch. Which way is right?
LOL! I was told the exact opposite! My brakes still have plenty of bite despite the car having 35k miles. The engine can handle gearing down, and that's what the transmission and clutch are meant to do. It's built tough, unless your's is defective like mine. It's how I broke the engine in, too. Downshift, high rev, let it breathe in a bit. I never babied it, just try to keep it from the redline. Even during spirited driving I usually shift right before the redline.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:19 PM   #2393
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technically speaking I don't think its even legal to do that. I believe if you take your road test in a manual car leaving it out of gear while rolling will fail you. Coasting out of gear can be dangerous because you can't react to certain hazards.

I don't generally downshift below third unless I am just in really slow traffic.

Downshifting shouldn't cause much wear unless you do it wrong.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:03 PM   #2394
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^ You could probably also argue that downshifting alone isn't legal as it doesn't warn traffic behind you with your brake lights.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:07 PM   #2395
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you could argue that if you had no idea what you were talking about
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:19 PM   #2397
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lol its not illegal to slow down without your brakes, its illegal to brake without brake lights
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:51 PM   #2398
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Yeah, I was going to say that it's the person's job behind you to give sufficient space. Anytime I can be in front of someone and slow down without using my brakes is preferred, since I feel like I'm doing my job to teach them to not rely on my brake lights to inform them of when they should be giving me space.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:54 PM   #2399
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lol its not illegal to slow down without your brakes, its illegal to brake without brake lights
This. Also, remember to rev match those downshifts for less clutch wear!
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of course
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