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Old 05-20-2011, 02:27 PM   #1
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a guy in Portland Oregon asked me about and we built a couple just to see how it all worked out







the two series of transmissions that are used are either the Toyota 'W' series trans ( from w 55 to 59 2wheel drive or 4 wheel drive)
OR the 'R' series Toyota transmission ( either the R 150 or the R 151 from the V-6 Toyota truck in either 4wheel drive OR 2wheel drive)
depending on how they are ordered is how they are machined
The R 154 was avoided because the trans is getting harder to find and more expensive, so these two common transmissions were chosen, the R 154 input shaft is 3/4 inch longer and can be used in the R design bellhousing if needed
these are designed to use all the stock Subaru components over with nothing more then adding a stock toyota clutch disc
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:51 PM   #2
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the two series of transmissions that are used are either the Toyota 'W' series trans ( from w 55 to 59 2wheel drive or 4 wheel drive)
OR the 'R' series Toyota transmission ( either the R 150 or the R 151 from the V-6 Toyota truck in either 4wheel drive OR 2wheel drive)
depending on how they are ordered is how they are machined
The R 154 was avoided because the trans is getting harder to find and more expensive, so these two common transmissions were chosen, the R 154 input shaft is 3/4 inch longer and can be used in the R design bellhousing if needed
these are designed to use all the stock Subaru components over with nothing more then adding a stock toyota clutch disc








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Old 05-22-2011, 11:07 PM   #3
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That is a work of art!

If I decide to forgo the AWD system in the racecar, I will be knocking on your door to beg for one of these bellhousings (can I make it work with a falcon 2 speed circletrack box?)

Thanks for thinking outside the box and making a part that doesn't require a hackjob of the original drivetrain to achive desired results!!!

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Old 05-24-2011, 09:16 AM   #4
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That is some pretty awesome work. I never caught the original intention of the project though. Was it for a 4 wheeling rig or because the toyota trans is beefier in some way? What is the application?
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:00 AM   #5
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the original intent was to create a true 2wheel drive system, that blossomed into the most versitle system available, so the Toyota was chosen because it included the 4wd option and increased the vehicle ride hieght with a front drive shaft, then the second option of the 'R' series was added to accomidate an even stronger transmission

why do you ask? two dawgs?
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:26 AM   #6
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I was just curious. It looks like a TON of work and it looks very well done. I did not know there was a market for such things.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:29 PM   #7
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can you imagine the rock crawler guys setting the engine back and low in a suzuki samari and using the Toyota 4wd system?
kwooooooooool
I dont know if there is any market, I just did to find out how its done
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:09 PM   #8
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I'm still interested in this for my corolla. But first I need to finish up a few loose ends on my subaru. And get a little bit of money in the bank
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:19 PM   #9
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I ordered 10 at the casting shop last week , I should have the raw castings on hand after that
these are built from T356 aluminum and then treated to a T 5 hardness, by the way
thats aircraft standards
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:32 AM   #10
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this is the casting shop where I have the patterns casted

they build core boxes from sand and resien and then pour the aluminum

then they are treated in a beader/ furnace to build in the hardness


there is the first batch

then I machine out all the raw castings

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Old 05-27-2011, 10:46 AM   #11
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Wow nice I work, at a foundry and know the process but with ductile and grey iron mostly,hard process,also got a question some one told me once ,when you pour the aluminum and its full, if you just bump the mold when the aluminum still liquid it scrap right?Also just wondered if you can remake the 04sti bellhousing if your cheaper than oem I think there would some interest here but seem to be more machining,heck your pretty local I could drive up there and visit sometime with your permission.Whats the buisness name?Pm if so.Later man.

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Old 05-27-2011, 12:15 PM   #12
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yeah man, just give me a heads up and come on bye
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Old 05-30-2011, 02:53 AM   #13
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man that would work great in my fj40 lol
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:35 AM   #14
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This weekend if no work saturday or next!!pm your #/buisness name definitely like to see the process.need any housings??got r154 supra housings and a broken 04 sti housing.
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:39 AM   #15
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This weekend if no work saturday or next!!pm your #/buisness name definitely like to see the process.need any housings??got r154 supra housings and a broken 04 sti housing.

you are PM'd >;o)
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:33 PM   #16
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Old 06-03-2011, 01:16 AM   #17
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Let me get this straight... You're building this so we can stick a suby engine in a toyota... BRILLIANT!
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:25 AM   #18
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Let me get this straight... You're building this so we can stick a suby engine in a toyota... BRILLIANT!
well, kinda, its really a matter of flexability, it offers a way to use a strictly RWD conversion but at the same time the ability to mate an excellent low speed high torque engine with a low C/G to a very popular 4WD arriangement, depending on which transmission you choose to use

the only limits is your own imagination

I think the original design was for an Rx7 Mazda with a sub engine
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:01 PM   #19
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hi i was wondering how much you charge for a bellhousing? i em very very interested in one please call or text me at 801-928-3646
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hi i was wondering how much you charge for a bellhousing? i em very very interested in one please call or text me at 801-928-3646

sorry for the late reply, I have been focused on the V6 Mitsubishi RWD conversion with a reverse starter



I suppose I could built the r 154 bellhousing but its time consuming and I have about 4 more projects before I got to it
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You sir, have my uttermost respect for fabrication skills. So, I must ask if you can make an adapter to mate a Hyundai 1.6 to a Mazda RX7 trans. (for a shopmate)


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Old 02-01-2012, 09:57 AM   #22
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as far as I know the Mazda doesnt have a detachable bellhousing
I have about a 1 year waiting list on all the adapters I build
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What is the cost of the bellhousing and such for the subie to yota 4x4 conversion?
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:33 PM   #24
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My only question so far is shifter placement inside the car. I'm really considering doing a RWD swap for my Saabaru. I think this and an R180 would be sweet. My good friend just finished installing a W58 in his Hachi with a 1UZFE!!!
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My only question so far is shifter placement inside the car. I'm really considering doing a RWD swap for my Saabaru. I think this and an R180 would be sweet. My good friend just finished installing a W58 in his Hachi with a 1UZFE!!!
As I was the "some guy from Portland" I thought I would chime in here.

To start bill does beautiful work. It all bolts together as if it was meant to with no issues to speak of.

Also bill was right, I wanted this so I could cram it all in a first gen rx7.

As they say the proof is in the pictures.



It also runs quite nicely too.


Bill has been working on a remote cable style shifter to fit the w58s. But the man gets busy. I ended up making my own remote shifter, it's ghetto looking but works quite nicely.

There is someone on legacy central that has already swapped one into a Lego turbo and is working on his own version of remote shifter.

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtop...44664&start=75
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