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Old 07-22-2002, 11:57 PM   #1
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I ran accross this page for a TT kit and just got all excited.

http://www.forcedairtech.com/FORCED-...TAGE4-KIT.html
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Old 07-23-2002, 12:10 AM   #2
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wow that looks like fun... now if i only had money for a single turbo...
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Old 07-23-2002, 09:02 AM   #3
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That turbo kit makes me


It's going on my soob over the winter, I was going to purchase a new audi a4 but bought the legacy instead, and i was going to spend 3599 for turbo upgrades on that, so 4495 is not so bad....for some twin turbo boostin!
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Old 07-23-2002, 09:22 AM   #4
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I even like the way the twin turbo looks, except for the dumbass cross over pipe for the MAF cars, DAMN THAT INFERNAL MAF!
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Old 07-23-2002, 09:54 AM   #5
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I was wondering why that was there, i can't wait to pop the hood at our local import meet in the family car! ha ha! lot's o eyeballs poppin out of their sockets! few clues out side, im keepin her at near stock height, and just a set of 17" rotas, and the hoodscoop!.....mmmmmm turbo x2!
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Old 07-23-2002, 10:34 AM   #6
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AFAIK, while the MAF is more delicate and requires plumbing space, it is, in fact, superior in its sensitivity and enables more precise a/f tuning. The MAF is our friend

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Old 07-23-2002, 11:52 AM   #7
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look what I started.....
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Old 07-23-2002, 12:47 PM   #8
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hey us Legacy folks can use a few T kits everynow and then
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Old 07-23-2002, 02:19 PM   #9
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hell ya! that twin turbo setup is the sweetest thing i have ever seen! I cant wait for it to be under my hood!
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Old 07-23-2002, 02:55 PM   #10
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I just got off the phone with forced air technologies, and all i can say about the twin turbo kit is WOW!

let's just say that not very many cars are going to be passing me around here!

it's so complete too, not much else to buy....just bolt on and go!


i feel like this now!
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Old 07-23-2002, 03:01 PM   #11
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what are you going to do for a IC? Hood scoop or FMIC?
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Old 07-23-2002, 03:57 PM   #12
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hood scoop, trying to stay a little stealth, man o man.....that system is awsome.........im still burnin out from just lookin at it.....im sure your burnt even more so.....
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Old 07-23-2002, 05:12 PM   #13
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What kind of turbos are they using? What psi are they pushing?
Any info would be nice.
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Old 07-23-2002, 05:36 PM   #14
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The turbo's that FAT was using (on my car and on his Impreza Sport) are GT15's. I was pushing 12psi each with a TEC-II, fuel rails and more toys, whereas he is pushing 11psi with a Split Second Timing Control.
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Old 07-23-2002, 06:03 PM   #15
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why did you take the TT setup off? Did he ever figure out how to get the turbos to stop fighting eachother?

it's such a nicely engineered setup.

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Old 07-23-2002, 06:17 PM   #16
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I took it off due to the fighting, the wastegate and the fact that Robert would have needed my car (that wasn't dead at the time) for a month or so to test the kit out...

So he put it on his car (MAF vs mine that was MAP) and has been tweaking and tuning it for the last few months... He just recently went to a external wastegate (Tial) instead of the internals and is really making the car move...

I liked it, it was fun to have 12psi of boost by 2500 RPMs, but I went another avenue with him (I am a repeat customer with FAT.... I'm on my 3rd kit... )
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Old 07-23-2002, 06:46 PM   #17
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3rd kit...

Any recomendations for someone who has done no research into FAT? I would assume you are happy with the kits.
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Old 07-23-2002, 07:00 PM   #18
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research = read over in the Aftermarket Forced Induction forum...

3rd kit = I've done upgrade path..

1st kit I got was their 2nd kit that they produced. Included the pipes and turbo plus labor. No gauges, no voltage clamp, no intercooler.... Was a straight T3 turbo. Had it on my car for almost a year before...

2nd kit I got was the TT kit. I was ready for the upgrade from the base stage I and Robert offered me a great deal on being the prototype for the TT setup.... We had problems with the engineering (as I noted he wanted the car for extended time and we agree that he should do the work on his car) which led to...

3rd kit which is the stage II kit. It is on my car currently.
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Old 07-23-2002, 07:00 PM   #19
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Would this kit fit on my 94 Legacy that is already turbocharged?
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Old 07-23-2002, 07:02 PM   #20
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Would this kit fit on my 94 Legacy that is already turbocharged?
I think the overall design of the FAT stage IV (TT) kit is designed on the 2.5 engine platform. That being said, I'm sure it could easily be retrofited to any other Subaru engine.... something that you can email FAT about....
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Old 07-23-2002, 08:09 PM   #21
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So what other equipment would I need in order to run this setup? You mentioned you ran a TEC-II with upgraded fuel rails. Would I be able to run 12psi each with stock ecu and rails? And what kind of hp/torque were you pushing out?
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Old 07-23-2002, 08:18 PM   #22
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Sorry bout the bombard of questions Kastle!

What engine did you have the turbo on? (Phase 1, 1.5 or 2)
How did the engine "like" the kit?
Any "bad things" happen?
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Old 07-23-2002, 08:25 PM   #23
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according to Robert, everything you need is in the kit (atleast for the RS). I would think a legacy owner is going to need to do something about the Intercooler... either a new hood and TMIC or custom setup for the FMIC.

The SSTC (timing control) will take care of the ECU.... Robert has told me (and others) that he is able to run 11/12 psi on the stock ECU and stock injectors using the SSTC.... I haven't seen it or played with it, so I only can go by what he says...

Best guess on my setup I'd say around 275/300hp... but that was TEC-II and tuned by shiv... I'll never really know since I didn't get it to the track...
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Old 07-24-2002, 07:17 AM   #24
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Robert told me that it would run at 11psi, nothing else is needed except a 2.5 inch exhaust. the car would put out around 300-360hp, depending on the car. the car would pull at least a 14.0 in the quarter. the b4 hood is the hood to get....then the intercooler has some breathing, im trying to stay stealth with it, so im not getting a fmic.....l like the fact that the intercooler is under the hood for estetic purposes......all I can say about the kit is that it's the best thing that I have seen since looking around at turbo kits......the fact that boost comes on full at 2000rpm....it's wicked........
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Old 07-24-2002, 12:25 PM   #25
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01b4RSK - I'd be really cautious with the clearence between those up-pipe/turbos to the ignition wires. Since both are free standing (no brakets) if you go on unmodulated roads you may actually have vibration and may cause a crack in your heads. It's just like a swinging arm, fastened only to one side.

Two turbos isn't necessarily better then one. As well, piping is all mild steel. Out east those things will be rusted through in no time flat.
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